Which wingtop vent cover?

[Ranga]

I need to replace a vent cover for the 110. I'd rather not get a genuine replacement, and have it crack again like the last one.

I spotted these ones Stainless Steel Defender Wingtop Vent - LH (http://www.paddockspares.com/pp/NEW_PRODUCTS/SS_Air_Intakes/Stainless_Steel_Defender_Wingtop_Vent_-_LH.html) but I'm not sure if they're any stronger.

Any ideas?

[Ranga]

Found these:

AWR2215 LH WING TOP AIR VENT FINISHER | shop | www.lrseries.com | L. R. Series (http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/3190/AWR2215-LH-WING-TOP-AIR-VENT-FINISHER.html'search=AWR2215&page=1)
AWR2214 WING TOP AIR INTAKE GRILLE RH | shop | www.lrseries.com | L. R. Series (http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/3189/AWR2214-WING-TOP-AIR-INTAKE-GRILLE-RH.html'search=AWR221&page=1)
AWR2216 AIR INTAKE GRILLE RH | shop | www.lrseries.com | L. R. Series (http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/3191/AWR2216-AIR-INTAKE-GRILLE-RH.html'search=AWR221&page=1)
AWR2217 AIR INTAKE BLANKING PLATE LH | shop | www.lrseries.com | L. R. Series (http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/3192/AWR2217-AIR-INTAKE-BLANKING-PLATE-LH.html'search=AWR221&page=1)

[86mud]

I ordered one from paddocks for the passenger side

LR106LG Wing Top Air Scoop with grille - LH (http://www.paddockspares.com/pp/DEFENDER/Accessories/Wing_Top_Air_Scoop_with_grille_-_LH.html)

Cheers
Andrew

[weeds]

I need to replace a vent cover for the 110. I'd rather not get a genuine replacement, and have it crack again like the last one.

I spotted these ones Stainless Steel Defender Wingtop Vent - LH (http://www.paddockspares.com/pp/NEW_PRODUCTS/SS_Air_Intakes/Stainless_Steel_Defender_Wingtop_Vent_-_LH.html) but I'm not sure if they're any stronger.

Any ideas?

these look the goods, let me know if you are buying some

[isuzurover]

This is a crappy pic, but Offender90 drew up some in CAD and Agrojnr cut them for us in stainless.

They have square holes and are very strong. I think they are 3 mm but Agrojnr (or any lasercutting place) could cut them thicker if you really wanted.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Ranga]

This is a crappy pic, but Offender90 drew up some in CAD and Agrojnr cut them for us in stainless.

They have square holes and are very strong. I think they are 3 mm but Agrojnr (or any lasercutting place) could cut them thicker if you really wanted.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p29/isuzurover/LR_PICS/County_parts050.jpg

How much were they, and do they still have the plan? I'd actually be happy with steel, powdercoated black.

[Ranga]

I ordered one from paddocks for the passenger side

LR106LG Wing Top Air Scoop with grille - LH (http://www.paddockspares.com/pp/DEFENDER/Accessories/Wing_Top_Air_Scoop_with_grille_-_LH.html)

Cheers
Andrew

I'd certainly break one of those I reckon. Also a trip hazard when standing on the wingtops.

[VladTepes]

ranga chat to agorjnr and let us know pricing etc - maybe anotehr group buy ??

[isuzurover]

How much were they, and do they still have the plan? I'd actually be happy with steel, powdercoated black.

As mentioned - ask Agrojnr. He or Offender90 will have the DWGs.

[agrojnr]

I will work out a price tomorrow

It wont be cheap as the uk ones there's are mostly ali and there punched not laser cut

Adam

[weeds]

I will work out a price tomorrow

It wont be cheap as the uk ones there's are mostly ali and there punched not laser cut

Adam

if you could incorporate the land rover badge that would be neat

[scott oz]

Sorry to intrude,

Are we talking out a raised intake and a group purchase if so I'd likely be interested. (Left and right side)

[weeds]

Sorry to intrude,

Are we talking out a raised intake and a group purchase if so I'd likely be interested. (Left and right side)

i'm asumming flat

ranga!!

[Ranga]

i'm asumming flat

ranga!!

Yep, flat for me. Given that part of the reason for having checker plate on the wingtops is to allow you to lean/stand on them, anything raised would possibly get in the way or risk being squashed in the process of leaning/standing.

[Ranga]

Also, got a reply from LRseries.com, and theyre prices for genuine or OEM plastic replacements are very reasonable. I got quoted £14.71 to supply and ship 4 vent covers, which I might do unless agrojnr can supply custom steel ones for a good price.

[Freestyler]

I made my own out of propellar plate the full length which covered up the vent. I bought a snorkel for a 200tdi defender and made my own ducting up out of 3inch irrigation pipe to hook up to the under bonnet A/C unit in an 85 V8 county. I now have fresh are coming in the vents without running the fan. The sheet of propellar plate was $160 for 3mm and I did my bonnet and both gaurds and still have 1/2 a sheet left to do my other county.

[Michael2]

I've got the scoop on my Defender, but one that is lower and more discreet than the Paddocks one. I got it from Rovacraft, when they were dealing with us. I went for the scoop as it would keep some rain out of the heater intake, and the narrow scoop also allows me to wedge in a piece of foam rubber and seal it for deep water crossings.

My favourite 'looking' one is the LRX vented type, but the scoop is just so much more practical.

It might be worth considering the benefits of the scoop before commiting to another flat vent.

[agrojnr]

Sorry for the delay guys

In 2mm 304 4b (shiny stuff) its $40+ postage

In 3mm 304 4b its $70+

In 3mm Ali its $70+

All these plates have around 220 holes in them but if you want less holes than the ones ben put up then the price will change

Adam

[Ranga]

Sorry for the delay guys

In 2mm 304 4b (shiny stuff) its $40+ postage

In 3mm 304 4b its $70+

In 3mm Ali its $70+

All these plates have around 220 holes in them but if you want less holes than the ones ben put up then the price will change

Adam

Is that each or for a pair? Not wanting to whinge about price, but why is postage $40?

[isuzurover]

Not wanting to whinge about price, but why is postage $40?

Where is the postage price??? I read $xx PLUS postage?


Sorry for the delay guys

In 2mm 304 4b (shiny stuff) its $40+ postage

In 3mm 304 4b its $70+

In 3mm Ali its $70+

All these plates have around 220 holes in them but if you want less holes than the ones ben put up then the price will change

Adam

As I recall adam the price is basically related to the total length you have to cut? So a smaller number of larger holes would be quite a bit cheaper (as would round holes?)???

[Ranga]

Oops! misread the +postage - sincere apologies.

Have you had any issues with them denting?

[Ranga]

I've got the scoop on my Defender, but one that is lower and more discreet than the Paddocks one. I got it from Rovacraft, when they were dealing with us. I went for the scoop as it would keep some rain out of the heater intake, and the narrow scoop also allows me to wedge in a piece of foam rubber and seal it for deep water crossings.

There's food for thought! Any idea of manufacturer/ part number and price?

I notice many application where you see venting made from metal, particularly where gas bottles are stored etc. I wonder where you get that from, and if it could be cut to shape?

Like this stuff http://www.ullrich.com.au/images/vent.jpg

[agrojnr]

Ben your right if the is less holes there is less cutting

Price was for each side

Adam

[Michael2]

There's food for thought! Any idea of manufacturer/ part number and price?

I notice many application where you see venting made from metal, particularly where gas bottles are stored etc. I wonder where you get that from, and if it could be cut to shape?

Like this stuff http://www.ullrich.com.au/images/vent.jpg

This is the one I got, it uses the original securing screws. About a 5min install.




LAND ROVER DEFENDER L/H WING-TOP AIR INTAKE SCOOP on eBay (end time 19-Mar-11 16:49:56 GMT) (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LAND-ROVER-DEFENDER-L-H-WING-TOP-AIR-INTAKE-SCOOP_W0QQitemZ220726865236QQihZ012QQcategoryZ3134 8QQcmdZViewItem#ht_1773wt_1139)

[Ranga]

Does it look out of place having just the left side raised?

[Michael2]

Does it look out of place having just the left side raised?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/03/900.jpg

I think it looks good, without having to match each side.

As you can see, it's quite discreet.

[pc3]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/03/900.jpg

I think it looks good, without having to match each side.

As you can see, it's quite discreet.

Is there anything under the flat blocked off driver side....you could buy two (left/right are the same correct) and youd get a bit of cooler air through that area or does the right side need to be blocked off ?

[Michael2]

There's nothing under the RHS. It leads to the wheel arch behind the overflow bottle (on the Tdi model). I've put my hot water heat exchanger in there and use the flat panel as an access hatch in case I need to access it in the event of a leak.

[Ranga]

There's nothing under the RHS. It leads to the wheel arch behind the overflow bottle (on the Tdi model). I've put my hot water heat exchanger in there and use the flat panel as an access hatch in case I need to access it in the event of a leak.

That's smart thinking! I'll check tomorrow to see if mine will fit in there. What brand is yours?

[Josh_WA]

its also a good place for spotlight relays and extra wiring type things.. in the engine bay... :D

[Michael2]

That's smart thinking! I'll check tomorrow to see if mine will fit in there. What brand is yours?

I bought a brick sized stainless steel 20 plate heat exchanger from ebay, commonly used for bio-fuel set ups. It was about a third the price of the copper coil ones, and I figured the flat plates would allow for bettter heat exchange, plus I hoped that the s/s might allow food grade water warming, which the copper ones advise against. It gets the water to over 40.C on the first pass, so has proved quite effective. I recently upgraded to a 17lpm pressure switched water pump, and even with the faster flow rate, it's still hot.

[rijidij]

I'm just about to do an order with my laser cutter for work, so I thought I'd get a quote for wingtop vents just for interest.

SS 304 #4 2mm $30ea

SS 304 #4 3mm $41.50ea

Alum 3mm $38.50ea

The quote was based on this picture, but the design could vary a bit without greatly affecting the price.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/03/834.jpg

[Ranga]

I'm just about to do an order with my laser cutter for work, so I thought I'd get a quote for wingtop vents just for interest.

SS 304 #4 2mm $30ea

SS 304 #4 3mm $41.50ea

Alum 3mm $38.50ea

The quote was based on this picture, but the design could vary a bit without greatly affecting the price.

Cheers, Murray
I was going to get mine powder-coated, so was wondering if plain steel would be cheaper?

[rijidij]

I was going to get mine powder-coated, so was wondering if plain steel would be cheaper?

I've asked for a quote using 3mm plain steel. I'll let you know if it would be much cheaper when they get back to me.

Murray

[isuzurover]

I'm just about to do an order with my laser cutter for work, so I thought I'd get a quote for wingtop vents just for interest.

SS 304 #4 2mm $30ea

SS 304 #4 3mm $41.50ea

Alum 3mm $38.50ea

The quote was based on this picture, but the design could vary a bit without greatly affecting the price.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/03/834.jpg

That design using larger round holes is cheaper to cut, and probably just as good. There is only ~150 holes there. The small square hole design has ~220 holes. Fewer holes means less cut length (so cheaper). Round holes also have a smaller cut lenth than square holes, so cheaper again.

I am sure that those on the west coast could get the design above cut by adam for the same or less (though get in quick before he moves to tassie!).

[roverrescue]

How 'bad' would it be to blank off the wingtop vent, then open a breathing hole on the inside of the intake box. Nice toasty warm air from off the turbo >>>> will have to duct it around the water bottle. Or maybe just remove the feeder box and screen the fan inlet?

No good if you have the vent feeding aircon, but I only use the ducting to keep the windscreen from fogging in the rain. My right side sliders are rusted stuck at HOT and WINDSCREEN.

I may try it and report back!

Steve

[rijidij]

I realised the previous quote was for one item including programming which would be about $15.
These would be the prices if an order was placed for 20.
There's not much difference in price between the different thicknesses so I'd be going for 3mm stainless if I was to get them done.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/03/321.jpg

[rar110]

Murray
What is the possibility of making a batch of plates for the driver side with a 100mm long piece of 3" pipe welded perpendicular through the plate as part of a snorkel set up?
Regards
Pete

[Ranga]

I realised the previous quote was for one item including programming which would be about $15.
These would be the prices if an order was placed for 20.
There's not much difference in price between the different thicknesses so I'd be going for 3mm stainless if I was to get them done.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/03/321.jpg

For me it's a toss up between alloy 3mm, SS 3mm, or plastic from the UK! SS might be the strongest, alloy the best suited to match up to the alloy panels, and plastic the cheapest. In all reality, the plastic lasted 15 years on both my Defenders before being cracked, so their not exactly flimsy.

How long before you place an order?

[scott oz]

rijidij

I'll go one passanger side for a TD5 3mm SS to start the numbers off.

[scott oz]

Is it worth puting this up as a bulk purchase to get more numers?:angel:

[rijidij]

..............
How long before you place an order?

I've just put in my order for work, but it's no big deal to order some vents, as long as the order meets their $100 minimum and that would only be 4.



Is it worth puting this up as a bulk purchase to get more numers?:angel:

I'm willing to get them cut and post them, but firstly, if I can get some feedback on the design.
If we can come up with a design that we're happy with, then it might be worth posting a bulk purchase thread in the General section.

I was thinking something like this with oval holes to go with the Landy theme. The holes are ~24x12mm ...........any thoughts ??

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/03/267.jpg

[isuzurover]

I was thinking something like this with oval holes to go with the Landy theme. The holes are ~24x12mm ...........any thoughts ??

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/03/267.jpg

Nice design, however in order to maximise flow to the heater it would be best to keep the solid/void ratio the same as for the original. That one looks like it doesn't have much void area???

[Hymie]

34443

One like this with AULRO?

[Ranga]

34443

One like this with AULRO?

Doesn't the bit in the middle of the R and A within rage look vulnerable to bending?

[rijidij]

Nice design, however in order to maximise flow to the heater it would be best to keep the solid/void ratio the same as for the original. That one looks like it doesn't have much void area???

That's just a matter of changing the size and spacing of the holes...........

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/03/266.jpg

[Sea_Dog]

Any chance of getting a template of this plate??



I'm just about to do an order with my laser cutter for work, so I thought I'd get a quote for wingtop vents just for interest.

SS 304 #4 2mm $30ea

SS 304 #4 3mm $41.50ea

Alum 3mm $38.50ea

The quote was based on this picture, but the design could vary a bit without greatly affecting the price.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/03/834.jpg

[rijidij]

Any chance of getting a template of this plate??

The one in that picture isn't my design, I just used it to get a rough quote, so I haven't got an actual drawing of it.
The one's I got cut were like this Landy Vent (http://rijidijoffroad.bounce.com.au/#/defender-vent/4560499766) See below.
Did you need a template including all the holes in the middle, or would a template of the outer edge and mounting holes suit what you need.

Cheers, Murray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/03/828.jpg (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/rijidij/media/County/Vent-1_zpsf11b01a2.jpg.html)

[Sea_Dog]

Hey Murray yeah I just need the outside profile and the hole centers and sizes if you could please mate oh and also if you could tell me what size pipe i need to use so i can connect the intake hose to it its for a perentie so it's a 4BD1 sorry for the hassle but im away at work and cant measure it myself i want to keep the size uniform all the way through if possible, just a question but do you think i will be able to run the hose between the tyre arch and connect to a stub pipe which will be welded through the wing top plate i'm making or will i need to have the stub pipe at 90 degrees to connect the hose. Cheers. :D

[rijidij]

The drawing at this link prints out at 1:1 on my printer Landy Vent Template (http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb102/rijidij/Misc/LandyVent_Outer_zps602f4eb1.jpg) Try downloading it and printing it. If you have any problems PM me your email address and I'll send it.

The snorkel on My County is 75mm and the hose goes straight onto the air filter, but I've flipped my air filter for the turbo, so my intake is where the dump valve used to be, I'm not sure if both are the same size.
You could probably bend a ribbed type hose tight enough to fit onto a straight stub pipe, but a straight walled hose would not work without a 90* elbow.

Cheers, Murray

[Sea_Dog]

Hey Murray thanks for all the info and template helped me out heaps just a couple more questions in relation to the angles of the pipes the top pipe which will be going to the snorkel i was going to to set at the same angle as the bonnet side of the wing top plate i believe this should be correct can you please confirm and I've decided to go with a 90* bend pipe for underneath and was going to run that parrallel with the outer edge of the plate so it should be parallel to the side of the guard also can you tell me what I should set the distance from the bottom of the plate to the inner edge of the pipe after the bend so I have enough clearance between the wheel arch and the guard to fit the hose I'm going with a 75mm pipe sorry if my wording isn't very clear im not the best at explaining in text. Once again cheer's for all you'r help and I owe you a couple of beers I will buy one of your heater intake plates after I've done the trip :) Cheers mate.

Regards
Jamie

[rijidij]

Hey Murray thanks for all the info and template helped me out heaps just a couple more questions in relation to the angles of the pipes the top pipe which will be going to the snorkel i was going to to set at the same angle as the bonnet side of the wing top plate i believe this should be correct can you please confirm and I've decided to go with a 90* bend pipe for underneath and was going to run that parrallel with the outer edge of the plate so it should be parallel to the side of the guard also can you tell me what I should set the distance from the bottom of the plate to the inner edge of the pipe after the bend so I have enough clearance between the wheel arch and the guard to fit the hose I'm going with a 75mm pipe sorry if my wording isn't very clear im not the best at explaining in text. Once again cheer's for all you'r help and I owe you a couple of beers I will buy one of your heater intake plates after I've done the trip :) Cheers mate.

Regards
Jamie


I'm not sure I can be of more help with the measurements you're after. I have a different setup on my County with the snorkel going through the guard. A couple of mates have the Isuzu with the snorkel going through the vent plate, but I can't remember exactly where they ran the fittings.
Looking at the distance from the guard to the inner wheel arch, there should be plenty of room to run the 75mm pipe and fit a hose to it, as long as you do the 90* bend.

Cheers, Murray

[Sea_Dog]

Not such a good idea to take air from the engine bay incase you have an exhaust leak. :p


How 'bad' would it be to blank off the wingtop vent, then open a breathing hole on the inside of the intake box. Nice toasty warm air from off the turbo >>>> will have to duct it around the water bottle. Or maybe just remove the feeder box and screen the fan inlet?

No good if you have the vent feeding aircon, but I only use the ducting to keep the windscreen from fogging in the rain. My right side sliders are rusted stuck at HOT and WINDSCREEN.

I may try it and report back!

Steve

[Sea_Dog]

I'm not sure I can be of more help with the measurements you're after. I have a different setup on my County with the snorkel going through the guard. A couple of mates have the Isuzu with the snorkel going through the vent plate, but I can't remember exactly where they ran the fittings.
Looking at the distance from the guard to the inner wheel arch, there should be plenty of room to run the 75mm pipe and fit a hose to it, as long as you do the 90* bend.

Cheers, Murray

No worries Murray cheers for all your help hopefully I get lucky and snag otherwise ill just have to modify it when i get to cairns. :p

[Sea_Dog]

I'm not sure I can be of more help with the measurements you're after. I have a different setup on my County with the snorkel going through the guard. A couple of mates have the Isuzu with the snorkel going through the vent plate, but I can't remember exactly where they ran the fittings.
Looking at the distance from the guard to the inner wheel arch, there should be plenty of room to run the 75mm pipe and fit a hose to it, as long as you do the 90* bend.

Cheers, Murray

No worries Murray cheers for all your help hopefully I get lucky and snag it otherwise ill just have to modify it when i get to cairns. :p