kiss goodbye your tax money

[Chucaro]

The Australian Lawyers Alliance (ALA) says asylum seekers could sue the Commonwealth for hundreds of thousands of dollars for any physical or mental harm suffered while held in detention. (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/19/3168373.htm'section=justin)

Forget the coal tax money for the poor Australian people or any other good purpose, the money will go to solicitors and a bunch of asylum seekers.

I think that we lost the plot :(

[wrinklearthur]

Charge the ALA with treason for that suggestion !

[Bushie]

They are only feathering there own nest.


Martyn

[ugu80]

They are only feathering there own nest.


Martyn


It is a lawyers utmost priority and greatest talent.

[ugu80]

Speaking of saying goodbye tax money, at the bus stop the other day I found a copy of an interesting magazine called USERS NEWS. It was a free monthly periodical given to drug addicts. It was mainly a forum for drug addicts to write in and tell others of their experiences. One story of was a touching tale of how, just before Christmas, this poor victim of society and his girlfriend broke into a house to steal Christmas presents. They had sex on the owners bed then with the money they raised pawning the pressies were able to have a great Chrissy day smacked out on the heroin they bought.

There was another great story about a guy that was strung out and unable to get smack on Chrissy day because his regular supplier took the day off. After searching high and low he found a saintly dealer who sold him a foil of heroin at regular, not holiday, price and thus he was able have a nice Christmas. There were two or three other such stories that I didn't have the stomach to read.

The fine print at the back showed this is all brought to you fully paid for and funded by the NSW HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

[newhue]

Isn't it amazing how a refugee, someone one with nothing, on the bones of their arse, can work out to come here on a paid boat ride. I assume the boat, fuel, food, maps, ropes.... are not free.
Most likely have bugger all to offer Australia be a better place.
Suddenly develop a mental condition after the surprise of being held for months or years because they have no papers or ID.
But somehow feel it ok to float for months of a cramped stinking leaking boat that may sink.

Then when it's not nirvana, want to sue the country they wish to live in for not being treated fairly.

I think the closest thing we have in Australia to a refugee would be a homeless person. I could not imaging them being able to pay for a boat ride anywhere, let along to another country no matter how crapy the boat.

It's all wrong, our government has allowed for lawyers to bring US style litigation to Australia.
Australia has singed so many human rights treaties we are basically locked into being nice. We probably can't be like the French and tell the gypsies to get stuffed.
And I feel most refugees are not real refugees. The ex detention staffer I employ reckons they are mostly criminals on the run from their relative governments.

[abaddonxi]

Speaking of saying goodbye tax money, at the bus stop the other day I found a copy of an interesting magazine called USERS NEWS. It was a free monthly periodical given to drug addicts. It was mainly a forum for drug addicts to write in and tell others of their experiences. One story of was a touching tale of how, just before Christmas, this poor victim of society and his girlfriend broke into a house to steal Christmas presents. They had sex on the owners bed then with the money they raised pawning the pressies were able to have a great Chrissy day smacked out on the heroin they bought.

There was another great story about a guy that was strung out and unable to get smack on Chrissy day because his regular supplier took the day off. After searching high and low he found a saintly dealer who sold him a foil of heroin at regular, not holiday, price and thus he was able have a nice Christmas. There were two or three other such stories that I didn't have the stomach to read.

The fine print at the back showed this is all brought to you fully paid for and funded by the NSW HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

Hmm, here - http://www.nuaa.org.au/files/usersnews/UN63/UN63_web.pdf

News (http://www.nuaa.org.au/index.php)

[dobbo]

There is an easier way to stop drug users from using.

Line them up and shoot them.

[big guy]

There is an easier way to stop drug users from using.

Line them up and shoot them.

WTF???

[ellard]

Hi there


The Australian Lawyers Alliance (ALA) says asylum seekers could sue the Commonwealth for hundreds of thousands of dollars for any physical or mental harm suffered while held in detention. (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/19/3168373.htm'section=justin)

Forget the coal tax money for the poor Australian people or any other good purpose, the money will go to solicitors and a bunch of asylum seekers.

I think that we lost the plot :(

I am not racist - but this makes my blood boil........we work hard to pay taxes and we pay enough now.

Wayne

[SimonM]

Hi there



I am not racist - but this makes my blood boil........we work hard to pay taxes and we pay enough now.

Wayne

I think you should be ****ed off with the lawyers, so that's not racist ;) It's funny though when we get in debates about asylum seekers people do worry about being labelled a racist or others do label them as racist.

[Disco44]

I think you should be ****ed off with the lawyers, so that's not racist ;) It's funny though when we get in debates about asylum seekers people do worry about being labelled a racist or others do label them as racist.

Common fact..it takes a racist to label someone a racist for that person has just heard( or read) something that they didn't want to hear( or see).So their defense is to label the speaker ( writer ) a racist.

[ATH]

Remember that German woman they put in detention because they couldn't find out where she was from and she wouldn't help them? She got a huge multi million payout.
Then there was the Filipino Oz citizen (I think) didn't they put her in a loony bin and forget her?
She deserved a payout the other loony didn't, but does anybody think the Feds are listening to what the voters says?
Of course they're not, big payouts coming and we'll just have to grin and bear it.
And then they'll be let in and they can probably get extra benefits on top of their ill gotten gains.
I bet our service men and woman don't get this type of money when they're badly wounded during battle.
AlanH.

[SimonM]

Common fact..it takes a racist to label someone a racist for that person has just heard( or read) something that they didn't want to hear( or see).So their defense is to label the speaker ( writer ) a racist.

Not too sure about that but I think we are all racist on some level, it is how we are conditioned. Some just choose to act upon those instincts.

[ozscott]

I know lets beat up on some lawyers....yeah!!!

The ALA does a lot of good. They unashamably push the rights of individuals. For example they campaigned hard against some of the more extreme tort reform. In Qld they assisted to wind back some of the harsher laws in Workers Compensation matters and if it were not for such groups, I believe a lot of workers would have a lot less rights when injured compared to the situation now.

The above comments about lawyers being treasonous, feathering their own nests etc are not only offensive to lawyers (including me who for the past 20 years who puts the finanical incentive well behind the incentive to do justice and to assist clients) but are also misguided and, frankly, sad.

There could only be compensation paid (possibly) if the police had used unreasoanble force in all the circumstances. If the police did their job properly, which may well have required considerable force in the circumstances (I dont know the circumstances and no one yet in the public knows the story in detail), there seems to me to be little to fear from the ALA's comments. I believe that justice follows offenders into prison (or should do) and the same comment applies to assylum seakers. Lets see how the enquiry plays out. Our Courts ARE NOT like the US Courts and we have nothing to fear from the prospect of Court here handing out Judgments in favour of people who are not properly recognised under our system as having a valid cause of action - in other words our Courts exercise restraint in such matters and the fact that our Judges are not voted in, but rather are typically taken from senior members of the Bar in each state and territory (and, on occasion solicitors) helps ensure that.

Please keep illinformed and biggited comments based on job type off such a great site. I dont mind at all comments criticising certain lawyers or legal groups, like the ALA but generalising about lawyers simply shows ignorance of the posters responsible.

Cheers