HCPU tub trailer

[weeds]

righto its under way

i have had access to an on road camper, very basic i.e. not even tailgate yep access only by putting up the tent than raising the bed.

my next touring trip requires the need to carry 5 mountain bikes along with camping gear for 2 adults and 3 kids so i figured a 130 tub trailer will complement the 110 nicely.

draw bar/chassis - extra long to accommodate five bikes either lengthwise or cross wise and allow the back door of the fender to open while trailer is attached.

canvas - i will be using a rooftop tent on the trailer so that i can also pop it onto the roof of the fender when the trailer is not required

suspension - 850mm leaf

axle - non-braked custom using defender stubs and hubs minus the disc

hitch - undecided

i have the following

- aussie traveller deluxe RRT, picking this up at easter hopefully
- HCPU tub this weekend
- springs picked up today
- axle, stubs and hubs umm i will be surprised if it arrives tomorrow
- vin number, the easiest thing i have ever done at the QT
- manufacturers plate $4.60

i need to knock up a bull bar tradesman style rack to cart steel home this weekend

funny thing is i could have registered the trailer this afternoon even though its not even built and i probably will sometime next week or the week after

looking at the self assessment form for trailers one could argue that a 130 tub trailer cannot be registered in qld, good thing mine is un-braked therefore it doesn't have to be inspected or need a roadworthy

will post pics along the way

biggest headache is the frame to hold five bikes apart from each other but is quick to load and unload....three different bike lengths

[86mud]

I am jealous Weeds....I would really like to build a 130 tub trailer to complement my 130 truck...but I built an offroad trailer (with landrover wheels) a few years ago and just can't justify having two offroad trailers....

Are you going to mount the bikes on the drawbar? Having a long drawbar helps to balance out trailer as the wheel arch is forward on the tub. Have a look at Discowhite's build up in the trailer section.

This might be of interest.... http://www.tawayama.com/gear/trailer/chuckwagon.html

Looking forward to seeing those pictures.

Cheers
Andrew

[weeds]

righto, i have been gathering some bits and pieces

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/04/1034.jpg

there is a brand new tailgate sitting behind the tub
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/04/1035.jpg

i have chopped and changed my mind on the draw bar 100 times or more, will nail it over the weekend

[Landover]

I'm watching with interest. I have a camper trailer tent that I want to put on something and this would be a good project. Just out of interest what are the dimentions of the top of the 130 tub. My tent is about 2100mm by 1300mm so might overhang a bit I would think.

Cheers, David.

[weeds]

I'm watching with interest. I have a camper trailer tent that I want to put on something and this would be a good project. Just out of interest what are the dimentions of the top of the 130 tub. My tent is about 2100mm by 1300mm so might overhang a bit I would think.

Cheers, David.

1750L x 1720W

my tent is 2000L x 1500W

[SimonM]

Looking forward to seeing this take shape. So do you intend to put the RTT on the trailer?

[weeds]

Looking forward to seeing this take shape. So do you intend to put the RTT on the trailer?

plan to swap RTT between trailer and defender as required......

[SimonM]

plan to swap RTT between trailer and defender as required......

It's funny when we got the RTT I said to wife that I would prefer to have it on a purpose built trailer than having the normal camper trailer tents. A good option. Of course depending on the height of your trailer compared to the defender the awning walls may need to be adjusted or removed but you have probably already thought of that.

[weeds]

ok, axle and hubs picked up today

holly crap a 50mm solid square axle is heavy, anyways i had it custom made with flanges on the end to suit 110 stubs so that i could fit land rover hubs. M R were even kind enough to remove the discs for me

totally forgot i needed lock nuts and lock washers oh and wheel nuts

pics are from my phone, must drag out a camera

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/04/1015.jpg


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/04/1016.jpg

[101 Ron]

Hey weeds that 130 tub looks familier and that home made cover for the fuel filler pipe...( I made it )
You would now cry..... when i purchased that tub it was for the canvas hood on it and the bows.
The tub came for free.
There was another ten tubs and bows and hoods all new sitting in a paddock that got scrapped for the alloy.
They wete removed for the RFS to fit fire fighting bodies on the rear of standard defender 130s.
That tub stayed under cover at the side of my garage for at least 10 years.
ron

[MacFamily]

Watching with interest Kelvin you have given me a few ideas for my next project.

Just registered a homemade box trailer today using the self assessment form, single axle with a ATM of 750kgs cost me $108.00 dollars took about 5 min and they didnt even come out and have a look at the trailer.

Longest part was sitting there for 40min waiting to get served :(

[86mud]

Who made the axle Kelvin?

Cheers
Andrew

[roverrescue]

Looking good Weeds!
Thats the 'only' way to do it!
Maybe burn the spring bolt plate on before paint/gal dipping the axle?

Steve

[weeds]

Looking good Weeds!
Thats the 'only' way to do it!
Maybe burn the spring bolt plate on before paint/gal dipping the axle?

Steve


er, not sure what you mean

pretty sure i was only supplied two plates should there be a plate either side of the spring?

i thought i would only be drilling a hole into the axle for the spring to locate in it than the plate than four bolts

will a welded plate onto the axle sto pthe axle/spring moving

[Col.Coleman]

Good stuff Kelvin.

I see you ended up going the square;) It'll be nice and solid.

CC

[roverrescue]

In your picture of bits which includes the springs. 4th in from the left just below the AULRO handwarmer are two square plates with a hole in centre. These are to sit between spring pack and axle, the hole allows the spring centre bolt to clear the axle.

I imagine you could drill the axle to clearance for the centre bolt, it would do very little to the overall strength of a 50mm solid axle! But it is more normal to weld that small plate on in position of springs.

The fish plate obviously then goes on other side of spring pack with UBolts to hold it together.

S

[DRanged]

Now where have I seen a 130 tub trailer with a roof top tent etc.



https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/04/896.jpg

Thats right in my shed!!!!!!!!!
Dont make it too similar hey Weeds


Justin

[weeds]

In your picture of bits which includes the springs. 4th in from the left just below the AULRO handwarmer are two square plates with a hole in centre. These are to sit between spring pack and axle, the hole allows the spring centre bolt to clear the axle.

I imagine you could drill the axle to clearance for the centre bolt, it would do very little to the overall strength of a 50mm solid axle! But it is more normal to weld that small plate on in position of springs.

The fish plate obviously then goes on other side of spring pack with UBolts to hold it together.

S

cheers, i wondered what those two bits were for..........the spring pack did come with a set of instructions, i probably should look at them :angel:

[Landover]

Do you have a plan drawn up for the chassis. I would be interested in see how it would look, what size material you are using and how the tub attaches.

Cheers, David.

[weeds]

Do you have a plan drawn up for the chassis. I would be interested in see how it would look, what size material you are using and how the tub attaches.

Cheers, David.

50mm x 50mm x 4mm gal for the chassis
50mm x 75mm x 4mm gal for the draw bar

i will be using the existing mounts 'captive nuts' in the tub

[numpty]

Now where have I seen a 130 tub trailer with a roof top tent etc.




https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/04/896.jpg

Thats right in my shed!!!!!!!!!
Dont make it too similar hey Weeds


Justin

Nice looking unit.

Do have any difficulty getting in and out of the tent with it that low down?

[weeds]

Nice looking unit.

Do have any difficulty getting in and out of the tent with it that low down?

i thought it would be easier........less distance to fall

[numpty]

i thought it would be easier........less distance to fall

:pI meant the bending down to get under the overhang, whereas on the roof you can walk under.

[DRanged]

:pI meant the bending down to get under the overhang, whereas on the roof you can walk under.

No no
It folds forward over the fridge box and draw bar. That way you can enter via the tail gate area (which I have converted to a swing gate with kitchen attached) via a 3 step ladder. Works very well, you can even put up the tent whilst the trailer is connected to the car.

Justin

[weeds]

little bit of progress this evening

bolted the stubs on, used 10mm x 40mm bolts.....should have used 10mm x 30mm and it would have looked neater

cleaned and inspected the second hand hubs and bearings, all good so i greased them and fitted them to the stubs

i forgot to measure the axle prior to fitting the stubs damit, i can only imagine the engineering firm would have got it right, from memory i asked for 1370........its just looks like the 235/85/16 on disco rims are going to sit mighty close to the outside edge of the tub

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/10/656.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/04/667.jpg

[numpty]

No no
It folds forward over the fridge box and draw bar. That way you can enter via the tail gate area (which I have converted to a swing gate with kitchen attached) via a 3 step ladder. Works very well, you can even put up the tent whilst the trailer is connected to the car.

Justin

Sorry. I'confused.

All roof tents I've seen have access from the folded out section. ie they fold out to back or side with the aid of the ladder (attached) and this is then how it is accessed.

So your access is obviously at the other end? Or both ends?

[DRanged]

Sorry. I'confused.

All roof tents I've seen have access from the folded out section. ie they fold out to back or side with the aid of the ladder (attached) and this is then how it is accessed.

So your access is obviously at the other end? Or both ends?


Correct both ends

Justin

[numpty]

Now not confused anymore :D Thanks Justin. Incidentally, what brand of tent is it?

Trailer is looking good too Kelvin.

Perry

[Col.Coleman]

Perry,

Roof tents normally have a big flyscreen door at either end. It is just there is a ladder on one end you climb up. Once in, you can unzip the other end and have acces from the tent to the roof, if it folds out that way.

In D'ranged's case, the tent folds forward from the trailer axle over the drawbar. This is the bit the ladder is normally attached to. You then step up inside the tailgate at the other end and access via the other door.

In my case, my roof tent has an extended awning which covers the ladder section and you can zip a room onto. At lower heights you need to duck under this. Not so on alot of other models of roof tent.

Hope this helps

CC

[DRanged]

Now not confused anymore :D Thanks Justin. Incidentally, what brand of tent is it?

Trailer is looking good too Kelvin.

Perry

Generic Chinese roof tent.

Justin

[numpty]

Perry,

Roof tents normally have a big flyscreen door at either end. It is just there is a ladder on one end you climb up. Once in, you can unzip the other end and have acces from the tent to the roof, if it folds out that way.

In D'ranged's case, the tent folds forward from the trailer axle over the drawbar. This is the bit the ladder is normally attached to. You then step up inside the tailgate at the other end and access via the other door.

In my case, my roof tent has an extended awning which covers the ladder section and you can zip a room onto. At lower heights you need to duck under this. Not so on alot of other models of roof tent.

Hope this helps

CC

Thanks CC.

Exactly what I was getting at.

I am considering going this way myself ie putting tent on trailer and having the option of mounting it on the vehicle when required.

Perry

[weeds]

righto between getting kid around to their sports i have done some bits and pieces

i did have a mig organised to borrow but miss the boat, so back to the stick welder which i might leave it at that cause i have reminded myself my skills are a little lacking

a couple of hiccups

looks like the tyres will hang out past the tub, 10mm or so, either i provided the wrong measurement and the engineering company that welded it up got it wrong

and the grease nipples for the grease-able shackles are on the inside

any ways the chassis is done, will finish welding when i have the MIG

will place the tub on this afternoon so i can work out brackets etc

than work out how to individually secure 5 mountain bikes

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/05/1829.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/05/1830.jpg

[DRanged]

Weeds

Just remember when welding Duragal tube especially with a Mig, grind off the Gal coating in the area being welded. Unless there is another gas that likes burning Gal fumes;) Because Argoshield Light dosn't like it.

Justin

[roverrescue]

Looking good kelvin,
I wouldnt stress on that 10mm too much, my guess is those springs will barely flex enough to let the axle move anywhere near the lip of the guards!!!!!

Ive found my new favourite trailer leaf springs this week. Helping a mate rebuilding his 4.5m makocraft trailer. We have used some 79series cruiser rear leafs, nearly 1400mm long eye to eye. With the two load leafs sitting on the concrete the 5 main leafs ride on a 750kg ish trailer almost as soft as coils and a four link!

Steve

[weeds]

Weeds

Just remember when welding Duragal tube especially with a Mig, grind off the Gal coating in the area being welded. Unless there is another gas that likes burning Gal fumes;) Because Argoshield Light dosn't like it.

Justin

been grinding the gal off as i go.......i'm having enough troubles without gal adding to the problems

should have a MIG through the week

[cucinadio]

50mm x 50mm x 4mm gal for the chassis
50mm x 75mm x 4mm gal for the draw bar

i will be using the existing mounts 'captive nuts' in the tub


the draw bar size is a good idea mate, as you know i had to beef mine up to take out a little spring, but i like how it turned out, so worked well....

cheers

[weeds]

well some progress over the weekend and with only 4 maybe 3 weekend till we go i think i will be under the pump

what i got up to over the weekend

chassis completed, the MIG did help out heaps, thanks to a fellow forum member
rear suppport legs fitted, a little to far under for my liking but it will do
tub mounted, just need right length bolts
tailgate fitted
ordered new brackets for the tailgate latches to hook onto
picked up some wiring connectors
found two Second hand BFG AT's
fellow forum member donated a disco rim
brought two spare tyre winches, buggered if i know how to fit them without losing ground clearance
seperated roof top tent from its base so that a zip can be installed and an awning made to go over the kitchen
registered the trailer
decided on the kitchen and the layout including water tank and fridge
whats happening today, between 2:30 and 5:00pm :eek:

chase up a new u bolt for the axle
drop tent off
drop tyres and rims off
pick up tow hitch
make plate for fitting the tow hitch
obtain various nuts and bolts
pick up a jockey wheel
hopefully by the end of the week it will be towable

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/05/1414.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/05/1415.jpg

[numpty]

Looking good Kelvin.

Where did you source the stabiliser legs? I'm looking for some of those for my trailer project.

Perry

[weeds]

Looking good Kelvin.

Where did you source the stabiliser legs? I'm looking for some of those for my trailer project.

Perry

i was in a rush and brought them from arrow caravans, $70ea, i'm sure if i was more organised i could have got a better pprice. oh i brought alko, they did have a cheaper brand on there shelf

[weeds]

i was in a rush and brought them from arrow caravans, $70ea, i'm sure if i was more organised i could have got a better pprice. oh i brought alko, they did have a cheaper brand on there shelf

the only thing disappointing was i needed to jam some washers between the mounting plate and the legs mechanism itself to stop the wobbling around, made it heaps more stable

[roverrescue]

Looking good Kelvin,
If its not out of line... on an offroad trailer watch that chassis-to-Aframe connection. Many would argue not to weld across the top of the RHS.

Eitherway I would be gussetting/bracing that joint. It see huge loads.
Also If you had the steel I would run a diagonal back from where the Aframe ends to the front spring hanger. Effectively a diamond shape out to outer chassis rail back in to the springs. Will stiffen the frame, tie the A to the springs and seal up the RHS!

Looking good.

Steve

[Xtreme]

Looking good Kelvin,
If its not out of line... on an offroad trailer watch that chassis-to-Aframe connection. Many would argue not to weld across the top of the RHS.

Eitherway I would be gussetting/bracing that joint. It see huge loads.
Also If you had the steel I would run a diagonal back from where the Aframe ends to the front spring hanger. Effectively a diamond shape out to outer chassis rail back in to the springs. Will stiffen the frame, tie the A to the springs and seal up the RHS!

Looking good.

Steve

When I built my HCPU trailer I was advised similarly re "not to weld across .........the RHS" at critical load points.

Here's what I did -
Where the 'A' Frame meets the 'box' section - different design 'A' frame but same principle.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/05/1408.jpg

and at the spring hangers

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/05/1409.jpg

Over 50,000kms and no signs of failure - just a repaint required after all the gravel roads and subsequent 'sandblasting'.

BTW, Nice buildup so far Kelvin.

Re those stabiliser legs, how does the adjustment work on them? I need to replace my rather lightweight ones with something more substantial and they look like they might fit the bill.

[weeds]

thanks guys

i will have a look at your suggestions, didn't realise the bit about welding across

the first trip is all black top except port to cook town so not too punishing, i'm sure it will evolve as the years go on

[scottygc]

http://www.activefabrications.com.au/documents/activecataloguejan05%20v2.pdf


i find this mob good to deal with

depends where you live i guess

[weeds]

http://www.activefabrications.com.au/documents/activecataloguejan05%20v2.pdf


i find this mob good to deal with

depends where you live i guess

dropped into theses guys ages ago

pretty much have all the hardware i need.....apart from a jockey wheel

[weeds]

[QUOTE=weeds;1477324]
whats happening today, between 2:30 and 5:00pm :eek:

chase up a new u bolt for the axle check
drop tent off check and will be ready for pick up on saturday
drop tyres and rims off check
pick up tow hitch check
make plate for fitting the tow hitch lets try tomorrow
obtain various nuts and bolts check
pick up a jockey wheel some time this week i will get it right

[scottygc]

looks like you have it all sorted

i am in the process of planning my own trailer and have been watching with intrest

well done

[weeds]

this is the tent that will be going onto the trailer

the walls will be adjustable so that i can still use it on the defender, there will also be a zippered awning to cover the kitchen

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/05/1356.jpg

[weeds]

some progress over the weekend


picked up the tentage, just have to refit it now
swapped tyres over, now i have matching set on the trailer
welding in a centre piece of steel
mounted the tub, no overly happy but will work on it
fitted tailgate latches
wired th elights up
fitted rego plate
fitted reflectors however i have some landie ones on order
organised ally box to sit on top
fitted tow hitch
fitted u-bolt to axle
test drive around the block tonly to discover i had frgotten to do up the wheel nuts
80km test drive tonight, when i hit the dirt roads i soon stopped to lower the tyre pressures to 18psi.....down from 40psi


must remember to get some safety chain
might take back the jockey wheel, are they all hopeless at full extension i.e swivelling
gotta fit the compliance plate thingy
organise some checker plate for the draw bar

no pics you will have to trust me....

[DRanged]

Hey kelvin
What type of tent are you using. That will be the next thing on our trailer to change. Currently have roof top but need more room. By the look of yours you could easily sleep 2 up and 2 down???.

ps, just finished the coil conversion on ours. Boy what a job I hope its worth it.

Justin

[weeds]

aussie traveller, we got our second hand and had needed some work to bring it up to speed. folded up it is 2000 long x 1500 wide, folded out the ground room is 2000 x 1800, plenty of room for two small kids

i believe there is a chinese copy


Hey kelvin
What type of tent are you using. That will be the next thing on our trailer to change. Currently have roof top but need more room. By the look of yours you could easily sleep 2 up and 2 down???.

ps, just finished the coil conversion on ours. Boy what a job I hope its worth it.

Justin

[weeds]

Picked up the box on the weekend.... Now let's see if I attach a pic using tapatalk

[discowhite]

Picked up the box on the weekend.... Now let's see if I attach a pic using tapatalk

thats where im eventually going with the top on my trailer.
can you post some picks of the hinges and locks?

cheers phil

[cucinadio]

any more updates mate?

[weeds]

any more updates mate?

A few, just need time to post. Will pull it out ifthe shed over the weekend and take some pics as I need to sort out a very long tent pole for my awning.

[weeds]

thats where im eventually going with the top on my trailer.
can you post some picks of the hinges and locks?

cheers phil

Will do

[weeds]

had to get my dad to hold the middle pole as i didn't have one 3m long

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/07/1356.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/07/1357.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/07/1358.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/07/1359.jpg

[weeds]

pics for phil

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/07/1351.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/07/1352.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/07/1353.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/07/1354.jpg

[Redback]

That looks brilliant Kelvin, well done:BigThumb:

Baz.

[rainman]

Where did you get your latches and hinges from Weeds? I just put a similar latch from UES on my tailgate. It wasn't cheap, but quality :cool:.

[discowhite]

Kelvin,
did you take the tent apart to have the awning stitched on or did it
get done insitu?

cheers phil

[weeds]

Where did you get your latches and hinges from Weeds? I just put a similar latch from UES on my tailgate. It wasn't cheap, but quality :cool:.

Could ring the guy that built it, he did tell me where he gets his gear from just cannot remember.

[weeds]

Kelvin,
did you take the tent apart to have the awning stitched on or did it
get done insitu?

cheers phil

Yep had to pull it apart well worth the effort, stacks of room now and finishes the trailer off. All I have to do now is switch the cover around, dunno why I didn't do it when I had it apart. Oh and need to buy a 3m tent pole.

[rainman]

Could ring the guy that built it, he did tell me where he gets his gear from just cannot remember.

:o I assumed you built it yourself!

[weeds]

:o I assumed you built it yourself!

you assumed wrong.......i was running out of time getting it ready for our trip north, i ordered it one day and probably cancelled the trip a day or to later

[weeds]

time for an update

i have new motivation to finish the trailer, Wendy is on the road to recovery after i broke her foot so we have two camping with MTB's trips planned

picked up the checker plate for the front section today and have nearly finished riveting it down

i have made the rack for five MTB's, this rack also separates the two spares from the bikes

i have now found the best place for the AUX batteries

fitted rails for the kitchen and storage box to slide between

sorted the wiring

now working on ways to stop the kitchen from bouncing over the rails

might post some pics tomorrow

[rainman]

We eagerly await the pictures. You know we're all keen to check out your rack ;).

[weeds]

A couple of pics of my rack.........too shy to venture outside so garage shots will have to do

Now will I show off my rack on Sunday??

Oops cannot load pics from iPhone, must work out how to reduce the size of the pics

[weeds]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/08/268.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/08/269.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/08/270.jpg

[cucinadio]

Looks great mate, just ventured back to take a look see, any more since then ... out on the road picks?

cheers

[cucinadio]

very nice job mate, love it ...

[weeds]

1 aux battery installed
switchboard installed
charger installed
external power socket installed

just need to wire up fridge and lights, oh and some fuses and protection for the cabling and the water pump and the compressor and 2nd aux battery and anderson plug for solar panel and the list goes on......but its gonna be ready for our holiday thats for sure
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[weeds]

Halfway through a 10 day trip and all is good.

Got all the wiring done, I ended up using 7 pin trailer plugs between the roof top tent and the tub, will change this as I don't reckon the roof top tent will be coming off so I will be drilling a hole through the base of the tent and the storage box on top of the tub to hard wire the lights.

Re: lights, going to the extra trouble of of installing 2 way switches has been brilliant. I also got some Velcro sown into the awning so that I could stick a strip of LED lights to it along with a strip at the top of the tent to light up the down stairs and a strip above the pillows for reading etc. All these lights stay velcro'd when we pack up cause they are flexible and fold with the canvass. When the kids need to go to the loo a flick of switches under our pillows and the campsite is fully lit.......kinda cool

The LED strip lights in a pocket with Velcro on one side and clear plastic on the other were no cheap but given the lack of time they have been an awesome accessory.

The charger has been working a treat and you can see the load when the fridge kicks in and the going on/off.

The only pain we have is that we have to pack up the trailer when we want to go MTBing.

Outstanding jobs

1. Rewire lights to get rid of trailer plugs
2. Install 2nd aux battery
3. Make up a PVC pole tube
4. Install compressor
5. Install water tank and pump

Might have to think about getting new axle with some elecy brakes.

[weeds]

Update time

Just installed the water tank that was in the defender along with the pump.......only to discover it has a leak. I'm not keen on pulling it out to get it re-welded so hopefully i be able to apply something insitu. It on the top weld so I doubt I will loose the whole tank be any leaks are annoying.

I have the option of hand pump to the kitchen or 12v pump if I need pressure or want to fill a bucket quickly.

72L capacity

[weeds]

Another tick in the box......second aux battery installed and charging nicely with the other one from the onboard charger.

[weeds]

Must start on the cover plate for the fuel filler hole in the floor of the tub......the compressor will be mounted on this plate

[rainman]

Is that the new water tank?

Do you have brakes yet? :cool:

James.

[weeds]

Is that the new water tank?

Do you have brakes yet? :cool:

James.

no, the new water tank is in the defender.....this is the old tank

re: brakes, when do you require brakes on a trailer?

[rainman]

re: brakes, when do you require brakes on a trailer?

:whistling:

[weeds]

Houston........we have problem

It appears 50mm x 50mm supporting the springs does not cut it........just want I need eight weeks away from a holiday........

Thank god I dropped into vehicle components and them wanting to have a look at my setup

[Witchdoctor]

Over ride brakes are required when trailer is over 750kg
Full brakes are required when trailer is over 2 ton

Cheers
David

[weeds]

Over ride brakes are required when trailer is over 750kg
Full brakes are required when trailer is over 2 ton

Cheers
David

Lol........I'm only searching for a bite as normally every man and his dog reminded me I need brakes after the first weigh in

[rainman]

It was 4mm wall thickness on the 50 x 50 wasn't it? That's pretty beefy. What actually happened? Are there photos [tonguewink]?

James.

[weeds]

It was 4mm wall thickness on the 50 x 50 wasn't it? That's pretty beefy. What actually happened? Are there photos [tonguewink]?

James.

yep 4mm.......no pics but its not as bad as I thought. I still need to come up with a fix and monitor

I might try and raise the tub (which will be a major) this weekend to determine the damage

it appear to have a slight bend the rear spring hanger....everything else seems to be OK

[rainman]

You're welcome to borrow my MIG if you need it.

James.

[weeds]

You're welcome to borrow my MIG if you need it.

James.

thanks....I have a MIG available around the corner.......I think he still has it