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strangy
6th April 2011, 08:32 AM
Clearly I found myself with a little too much time, but I couldnt help myself.

I was looking to add some extra LEDs for the camping set up and thought I would try and support Australian owned retailers via Ebay, I decided on 2 different types of lights I wanted and made bids on thes items.
As this seller had quantities of the same item I wasnt fussed to be outbid, I just went to the next item finishing later and bid my highest amount.

Over the last 4 weeks I was outbid 6 to 4 hours before auction end. Oh well such is life right?
Well, I went and had a look at to see the bid history of these items and then started to look at others and found that the same bidder outbid me in all cases. Always at 0600 EST. A closer look at this bidder revealed that they had made 1787 bids in the last 30 days, all in this section of ebay. I decided to check on any items from this seller and watched the lat 20 items count down and in all cases where the item wasnt close to the original buy it now price, the same bidder was the winner.

So you are probably thinking "harden up" whoever this bidder is probably buys and resells.

Surprise, despite winning more than 150 items over the last 30 days alone, in the same section, their feed back score hasnt budged and yet they have 100%positive feed back.

I think something stinks here.

richard4u2
6th April 2011, 08:38 AM
ebay just one big catalogue for the overseas importer/seller ???

Lucus
6th April 2011, 08:44 AM
Seller has two accounts (or a friend or relative has an account) and uses the second account too pump up the price of the items prior too the final sale.

Oldest trick in th ebay Book

Edit:

Well spotted though, Good ebaying mate! :)

Lotz-A-Landies
6th April 2011, 08:47 AM
Report the seller and buyer to ebay for schill bidding,

abaddonxi
6th April 2011, 08:53 AM
Report the seller and buyer to ebay for shill bidding,

x2 the seller will get their account closed.

Wil2k
6th April 2011, 08:59 AM
Nice detective work Strangy! :BigThumb:
If only all consumers were as observant as you!

101RRS
6th April 2011, 09:00 AM
Does Ebay actually do anything.

I have had a number of issues over the years with both sellers and buyers and have reported them but ebay has never done anything. I have a case open on a non payer and nothing is happening - as a seller I cannot even leave negative feedback on this non paying buyer.

Service and ebay should not be used in the same sentence.

Garry

Wil2k
6th April 2011, 09:05 AM
I have a case open on a non payer and nothing is happening

I had all my issues resolved satisfactorily over the years, however speed certainly isn't something you can expect. I just got a refund on listing fees that were incurred when an item was duplicated while listing on eBay mobile. Took about 2 working days. *however* - I do suspect they "look after" their good sellers. So if old mate is shill bidding and still making eBay "good coin" I doubt they'll treat the matter with any urgency. (This is groundless, just a suspicion ;) )

stealth
6th April 2011, 09:18 AM
Why don't you buy one and then leave negative feedback because of his shonky practice. He will then no doubt want to have the negative removed and will go to ebay to open a dispute. That is when you get to make your point. The biggest problem with ebay is there is no genuine competition for them. At present.

VladTepes
6th April 2011, 11:20 AM
ebay ! bah.

Trying to sell the bride's wedding dress (with her consent I might add) was a nghtmare, and eventually unsuccesful.

At one point we received an email from ebay to say our ad had been deleted due to "attempted fraud by someone bidding on your item". They did graciously (ha ha) add that they wouldn't charge us for the listing. How noble of them.

I asked i they could relist the ad for me. No they couldn't I would have to do it.

I asked if they could provide a copy of the ad (I hadn't kept all the details / answers to questions asked, etc) . No the couldn't.

I asked if they could supply the usernames of people who had asked questions so I could contact them. No they wouldn't.

At the end of this conversation they asked if there was anything ELSE they could help me with. When I said they hadn't helped me with anything yet.. they said they were doing everything they culd to "improve my ebay experience". FFS what a pack of fools.

MickS
6th April 2011, 11:32 AM
Does Ebay actually do anything.
Garry

Yes. They have resolved quite a number of cases to my satisfaction in relatively quick time. And their "live" assist is good too.

Lucus
6th April 2011, 12:08 PM
Vlad, ebay saves your listing templates automatically. If you where too relist you'd probably find the details are still in your acc

George130
7th April 2011, 11:48 AM
I just set my own limit and never budge on it. Last thing I tried to buy was a ride on mower. I lost in the last 10 seconds. Funny that the seller offered my a second chance buy of the item 3 minutes after the auction ended. I just never responded as there is no way they could of had a buyer dispute that quick.

101RRS
7th April 2011, 12:19 PM
Well I am glad that ebay has resolved issues for some of you - but for me nothing has happened.

Sold a car for a friend a while back - the wining bidder who actually viewed and test drove the vehicle before bidding said that they did not want the car and would not be paying. I lodged a dispute and nothing happened - even tried chasing it up to no effect. In the end the car was sold privately for much less than the ebay bid.

Ebay is good when it works but when it doesn't it is crap.

Garry

jsp
7th April 2011, 12:27 PM
sold 3 cars on ebay in the past 2 months and just cant get over no matter how clear you make an auction there's always idiots wanting to take it for a "burn around the block"

Its like retail....your dealing with the repugnant human spawn of society and you can't filter out potential buyers by smell and intelligence alone....

No matter how well you list something, how honest you are, even if the buyer inspected it before bidding and said they were happy when the collected it, you can't make them give you good feedback......or any at all....even when you left good feedback the second you got paid.

PS: sorry f anyone here sent annoying questions about some valiants about 6 weeks ago ;)

strangy
7th April 2011, 01:51 PM
sold 3 cars on ebay in the past 2 months and just cant get over no matter how clear you make an auction there's always idiots wanting to take it for a "burn around the block"

Its like retail....your dealing with the repugnant human spawn of society and you can't filter out potential buyers by smell and intelligence alone....

No matter how well you list something, how honest you are, even if the buyer inspected it before bidding and said they were happy when the collected it, you can't make them give you good feedback......or any at all....even when you left good feedback the second you got paid.

PS: sorry f anyone here sent annoying questions about some valiants about 6 weeks ago ;)

Hey mate will ya swap it for commodore with mags and 1/2 a pack of Winnie blues? Ill give ya some cash on Friday eh?:p





Well, I put in a report to Ebay and will see what happens.

Cheers

jsp
7th April 2011, 02:29 PM
Hey mate will ya swap it for commodore with mags and 1/2 a pack of Winnie blues? Ill give ya some cash on Friday eh?:p

Well, I put in a report to Ebay and will see what happens.

Cheers

funny you mention that - one of the cars was a white 95 commadore and so many people asked if it came with a second set of wheels as it still had factory stock on it

Ace
7th April 2011, 03:42 PM
Does Ebay actually do anything.

I have had a number of issues over the years with both sellers and buyers and have reported them but ebay has never done anything. I have a case open on a non payer and nothing is happening - as a seller I cannot even leave negative feedback on this non paying buyer.

Service and ebay should not be used in the same sentence.

Garry

They stopped sellers being able to leave negative feedback some time ago because sellers were waiting for the buyer to leave feedback and if the buyer left negative feedback they would to, just to spite them. I bought a game off a bloke and when I got it the packaging was in some asian language and so were all the instructions, he claimed to be an australian seller. So i asked for a refund and got no reply, I sent a second email and no reply. So I left negative feedback saying he had poor communication and a poorly described item, within 10 minutes he left negative feedback for me saying I was a trouble maker and didnt read the item description, despite paying at the time I purchased the item buy it now.

I dont use ebay so much anymore, its to expensive to sell unless you make some decent mark up on your products, especially now that they push paypal, they get to double dip on fees.

gazk
7th April 2011, 05:29 PM
I just set my own limit and never budge on it. Last thing I tried to buy was a ride on mower. I lost in the last 10 seconds. Funny that the seller offered my a second chance buy of the item 3 minutes after the auction ended. I just never responded as there is no way they could of had a buyer dispute that quick.

I've had something similar happen, the seller made a second chance offer very soon after the auction ended and I lost it by a couple of dollars. I suspected shill bidding. At the same time as the second chance offer was made the seller wanted me to call him to negotiate the price. I just accepted the second chance offer. Soon after that the item was mysteriously no longer available - I got the sold to the highest bidder story, blah, blah.

I simply left negative feedback and reported the seller to Ebay for shill bidding, Ebay replied that it would investigate - a few days later the seller was no longer an Ebay member.

If ever I think a seller is shaky or has a low transaction count and/or less than 98% feedback I will only bid on a cash on pickup basis.