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Hamish71
10th April 2011, 06:08 PM
into a pretty much anything if what I heard the other day is true.
Apparently MOTEC are working on a "standalone" ecu that will let you put the TDV6 into anything you want.
Tombie
20th April 2011, 01:33 PM
Syntex in the UK have already done it...
Standalone, Laptop programmable ECU
Wiring loom...
Mounting kits for D1, RRC, P38...
D2 coming soon..
Transmission adapters available....
Should be awesome... I'm waiting for their reply about integrating into a D2 :cool:
isuzurover
20th April 2011, 01:45 PM
Seems there are a few companies selling stand alone EMS systems. And quite a few conversions already out there...
YouTube - TDV6 Discovery Series I Conversion
YouTube - TDV6 Defender engine start
YouTube - TDV6 Defender engine start 2
YouTube - Defender TDV6 Saluki Drifting
YouTube - Bell Auto Services Project TDV8 Defender running for the first time
billy bob
25th April 2011, 02:40 PM
Be good if you could keep the 6 speed auto as well and adapt it up to the transfer case
starky
14th May 2011, 01:28 PM
Syntex in the UK have already done it...
Standalone, Laptop programmable ECU
Wiring loom...
Mounting kits for D1, RRC, P38...
D2 coming soon..
Transmission adapters available....
Should be awesome... I'm waiting for their reply about integrating into a D2 :cool:
i have googled syntex but cannot find anything do you have a web site???
Sleepy
15th May 2011, 01:46 PM
This might be a stupid comment... but here goes.
Whilst I would love a TdV6, wouldn't the cost be prohibitive and a cheaper (but not Land Rover) engine be simpler/ more feasable?
Having seen the list price of a Td5 I would hate to think how much a TdV6 would be, cant imagine there would be too many D3/4/RRS around.
Dont get me wrong, love the idea, just think it would be $$$:angel:
101RRS
15th May 2011, 02:41 PM
I don't think other engines of similar technology would cost any less than the TDV6. In the UK you can get low mileage TDV6s with everything for as low as 2000 pounds and TDV8s for about 3000 pounds.
Recently a complete TDV6 did sell for 250 pounds on ebay.
Short TDV6 engines have been for sale in Aust for $2500 but it would have taken a lot extra to make it a complete usable engine.
Garry
Sleepy
15th May 2011, 02:54 PM
In the UK you can get low mileage TDV6s with everything for as low as 2000 pounds and TDV8s for about 3000 pounds.
Recently a complete TDV6 did sell for 250 pounds on ebay.
Short TDV6 engines have been for sale in Aust for $2500 but it would have taken a lot extra to make it a complete usable engine.
Garry
Thanks Garry, I guess that is a reasonable price. I expected an extra zero.;)
frantic
15th May 2011, 08:39 PM
Sleepy at the moment , yes the TDV6 would be a bit more expensive than a more common diesel as they are mainly in the d3/4 , RRsport , jags and a few pug's and citrus top of the line models.BUT The new territory has just been released with the 2.7tdv6 so with the high numbers of those produced there will be a far greater number of 2.7td's turning up at the wreckers yard near you:D and me.
4runnernomore
20th May 2011, 06:02 PM
Syntex in the UK have already done it...
Standalone, Laptop programmable ECU
Wiring loom...
Mounting kits for D1, RRC, P38...
D2 coming soon..
Transmission adapters available....
Should be awesome... I'm waiting for their reply about integrating into a D2 :cool:
Any updates for the D2 conversion Tombie?
Slunnie
21st May 2011, 12:17 PM
I'm keen to hear about this too. Not that there is anything wrong with my TD5, its just that it would be really nice to have better performance and less lad under the bonnet than what a chipped and intercooled TD5 provides in a heavy D2 that I'd like to keep for quite a few years more.
What would be nice sometime is the TDV8 version and its gearbox which I hope would fit.
Landy110
28th May 2011, 03:38 PM
I too would love to have that plant in the deefer but wouldn't we have rego issues, you and I know that the breaks on a deefer are quite a bit more than adequate but we would have to prove that in order to rego a deefer with 600torques wouldn't we ?
Steve
Scouse
28th May 2011, 06:36 PM
I too would love to have that plant in the deefer but wouldn't we have rego issues, you and I know that the breaks on a deefer are quite a bit more than adequate but we would have to prove that in order to rego a deefer with 600torques wouldn't we ?
SteveWhile it's probably best to upgrade the brakes to cope, the RTA are usually just concerned with capacity.
If you take out a 2500cc single turbo diesel & fit a 2700cc single turbo diesel, it's within the 15% increase allowed. Of course the actual fitment would need to be engineered but the engine itself would be fine in NSW.
loanrangie
31st May 2011, 12:40 PM
I'd love a deefer with TDV6 and auto, what auto/ transfer does the D3/4 use ?
Sonofagun12G
12th June 2011, 10:24 PM
Hi Loanrangie, you would be suprised what will fit under the bonnet. I am currently running a Chev 6.2 V8 Diesel (N/A) in my 85 County. Have just brought in an AM General 6500 Optimiser Turbo V8 diesel (250HP) and a 4L85e auto transmission to go in it. Has anyone on here made an adaptor to fit a 4L80e or 4L85e to the LT230? The marks adaptor is too long.
Andy, Beerwah Qld
cal415
13th June 2011, 08:45 PM
How long is it? i fit a patrol gearbox and LT230 in my county, had to cut and move the centre cross member though it wasnt a big job.
Capstan
14th June 2011, 10:49 AM
Wait a few years and there should be a plentiful supply of TDV6 motors out of Ford Territorys.
loanrangie
17th June 2011, 12:30 PM
Hi Loanrangie, you would be suprised what will fit under the bonnet. I am currently running a Chev 6.2 V8 Diesel (N/A) in my 85 County. Have just brought in an AM General 6500 Optimiser Turbo V8 diesel (250HP) and a 4L85e auto transmission to go in it. Has anyone on here made an adaptor to fit a 4L80e or 4L85e to the LT230? The marks adaptor is too long.
Andy, Beerwah Qld
Seen the chev conversions but i'm not a fan of those big lumps, the tdv6 would be a nicer upgrade and much more refined.
VladTepes
17th June 2011, 12:59 PM
BUT The new territory has just been released with the 2.7tdv6 so with the high numbers of those produced there will be a far greater number of 2.7td's turning up at the wreckers yard near you:D and me.
Don;t say this often but... YAY FORD !!!!!!!!!!
So I'll just need to find a 110 Puma with damage to the rear roof nd an exploded engine (yeah I know) to justify ctting into a 100" ute.
And a rolled Territory to salvage the engive from...
Cool.
Tins
4th October 2015, 07:06 PM
Really old thread, but interesting. Has anyone here done this? Territory V6's go for way less than a TD5.
Kiwi_shawn
13th May 2019, 11:43 AM
Still a really old thread, but i'd love to know if anyone has put the tdv6 in place of the td5 in a D2 !
101RRS
13th May 2019, 11:55 AM
Unless you own a large multi-faceted workshop it is not really possible. If you have a workshop then you can probably afford to pay a electronics computer keeek to build you a dedicated stand alone ECU to run the engine.
If you were going to do it yourself, you would need to buy a wrecked D3/RRS and pull all the wiring and ECUs etc out of it and after doing the same put the D3 stuff into the D2. There will be issues of compatibilty eg sensors on the tfr case and how it operates are completely different.
A guy in the UK is putting a TDV8 into a D3 and had to do that but the donor car and the recipient vehicle are similar (RRS to D3)
If you can design and build ECUs then might be a goer as has been done in the UK with a TDV6 into a Defender.
D3s are now relatively cheap - sell the D2 and buy a D3
Konradical
13th May 2019, 01:34 PM
Still a really old thread, but i'd love to know if anyone has put the tdv6 in place of the td5 in a D2 !https://www.bodylogicuk.com/index.php/11/327141/
Follow this link and most of your questions will be answered..
I have been keeping an eye on it as there was talk of being about to do the same thing with the 3.6 TDV8.
I also think at this stage the 3.0 and 4.4 litre versions are still untouchable due to the CAN-BUS integration into the vehicle.
A 3.6TDV8 into my RRC is the dream. So smooth, so much torque..
cripesamighty
13th May 2019, 02:26 PM
“A 3.6TDV8 into my RRC is the dream. So smooth, so much torque..so much tyre shredding”
There. Fixed it for you! Funny enough, I have been following the bodylogic guys stuff for a few years too. I’ve often thought about doing the 2.7 TDV6 conversion for my D1, but the 3.6 TDV8 would be sensational. Trying to do it legally is another issue entirely though! I sometimes wish I hadn’t seen the D2 rally car for sale too....
BMW M3-Powered Land Rover Discovery Rally Car For Sale (https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/buying-maintenance/a10017694/land-rover-discovery-rally-car/)
Land Rover Discovery rally car with a BMW M3 engine. We like it 😁 (https://m.facebook.com/story.php'story_fbid=1205759632813147&id=149380468451074&refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2FBiser3a%2Fvi deos%2Fm3-powered-lr-discovery-rally-car%2F1205759632813147%2F&_rdr)
Konradical
13th May 2019, 04:38 PM
“A 3.6TDV8 into my RRC is the dream. So smooth, so much torque..so much tyre shredding”
There. Fixed it for you! Funny enough, I have been following the bodylogic guys stuff for a few years too. I’ve often thought about doing the 2.7 TDV6 conversion for my D1, but the 3.6 TDV8 would be sensational. Trying to do it legally is another issue entirely though! I sometimes wish I hadn’t seen the D2 rally car for sale too....
BMW M3-Powered Land Rover Discovery Rally Car For Sale (https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/buying-maintenance/a10017694/land-rover-discovery-rally-car/)
Land Rover Discovery rally car with a BMW M3 engine. We like it [emoji16] (https://m.facebook.com/story.php'story_fbid=1205759632813147&id=149380468451074&refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2FBiser3a%2Fvi deos%2Fm3-powered-lr-discovery-rally-car%2F1205759632813147%2F&_rdr)Ha! Thanks.. tyre shredding is a thing of the past for me though..
I think legally it wouldn't be such an issue. With engineering and lots of money it could be done. Heck, they are dropping LS3s in them and getting rego..
The biggest hurdle would be the drive line. The ZF would die at start up and a GM 6L80E or something would have to be made to fit. The diffs/axles wouldn't be such an issue, but would have to spend a bit to have something to manage that torque.
I would use the set up for touring and towing.
The 2.7lt with a manual behind it would be another great alternative for a simple set up.
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