View Full Version : PMG (later Telecom) Land Rovers of the mid-1970s
Shonky
26th April 2011, 04:07 PM
I'm visiting my old man in Perth at the moment, and this time I have finally got around to scanning some of his old Land Rover photos.
My Dad was a PMG (later Telecom, even later Telstra) Technician in the early 1970's and worked all over WA. Most of these photos were taken around Tom Price in approximately 1974.
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/670719/PMG%20Land%20Rovers/scan0012.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
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http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/670719/PMG%20Land%20Rovers/scan0009.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/670719/PMG%20Land%20Rovers/scan0008.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/670719/PMG%20Land%20Rovers/scan0005.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/670719/PMG%20Land%20Rovers/scan0004.jpg
Later they used Toyota Land Cruiser FJ55s, like this one:
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/670719/PMG%20Land%20Rovers/scan0013.jpg
This one is PMG red but most of the FJ55s in his pics are the later Telecom yellow colour which came in around 1975. (available per request - I haven't scanned them)
Thought these might be of interest to someone.
Of note is the tail light cups and brush bar, both of which are similar but distinctly different to military items of the same era. Also note the water bags on the brush bars!
Anyone else have some pics of PMG Landies to add to the record?
jonesfam
26th April 2011, 11:03 PM
My farther also worked for the PMG from the late 40's until 1970 when he died.
He drove Landies that had a canvas cover on the back. My memories are a bit vague but I thought 1 of the Landies he regularly bought home was green.
This was around the Proserpine area of QLD, he had a lot to do with building "Se-com"? sites & installing auto exchanges through the Whitsunday Islands.
I do remember I dreaded seeing his Landing coming into the school because that meant I was in Deep, Deep Doo Doo.:p
I used to love riding about in them.
I will see if I have any old pic's but I think most of what I have are just group photo's.
Jonesfam
Lotz-A-Landies
27th April 2011, 12:11 AM
Brings back memories of parts picking at Flemington Spares, Homebush. The ex-PMG Landies weren't popular to the private market as they were frequently trashed. Hard work and too many different drivers. It was also the days when many of the Government Auctions only admitted dealer customers and not the general public.
p38arover
27th April 2011, 07:18 AM
When I started work with OTC(A) - Overseas Telecommunications Commission (Australia) in 1965, we used Land Rover utes. When I was at Moree Satellite Earth Station 1968-69, we had an LR ute.
When I was transferred to Ceduna Satellite Earth Station in Nov '69, Ceduna SES had a Cruiser ute, probably an FJ45. The local PMG Supervising Tech had an FJ55. I can't remember it being red.
I'll have to check my slides for any pics.
JDNSW
27th April 2011, 07:33 AM
When I started work with OTC(A) - Overseas Telecommunications Commission (Australia) in 1965, we used Land Rover utes. When I was at Moree Satellite Earth Station 1968-69, we had an LR ute.
When I was transferred to Ceduna Satellite Earth Station in Nov '69, Ceduna SES had a Cruiser ute, probably an FJ45. The local PMG Supervising Tech had an FJ55. I can't remember it being red.
I'll have to check my slides for any pics.
My memory (for what good it is) says OTC used Yellow or Orange (perhaps to distinguish it from PMG).
John
p38arover
27th April 2011, 08:10 AM
My memory (for what good it is) says OTC used Yellow or Orange (perhaps to distinguish it from PMG).
John
No, ours were grey, standard LR colour. DCA used yellow.
richard4u2
27th April 2011, 08:56 AM
i like the star light motel in the pics , would a modern tech use such a motel :D
Shonky
27th April 2011, 12:02 PM
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/670719/PMG%20Land%20Rovers/scan0011.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/670719/PMG%20Land%20Rovers/scan0010.jpg
My old man is in these two:
In the first he is the skinny bloke at the base of the windmill.
In the second he is on the roof.
Shonky
27th April 2011, 12:04 PM
No, ours were grey, standard LR colour. DCA used yellow.
Like this one:
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/670719/PMG%20Land%20Rovers/scan0018.jpg
Another of dad's pics.
Lotz-A-Landies
27th April 2011, 12:13 PM
Andrew
No that looks like a Telecom orange one.
The DCA ones were more like the Land Rover "Game ///" but not quite so loud a yellow.
Diana
Shonky
27th April 2011, 02:01 PM
Andrew
No that looks like a Telecom orange one.
The DCA ones were more like the Land Rover "Game ///" but not quite so loud a yellow.
Diana
Except that the picture predates Telecom and it's associated yellow, and is taken on a DCA site. ;)
Note also the white roof and white bonnet, and lack of PMG brushbar etc as standard in that part of the country at the time.
Keep in mind that it is a low-res scan of a 35+ year old photo... Colours may not be true to original!
Shonky
27th April 2011, 02:08 PM
Diana:
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/670719/PMG%20Land%20Rovers/P4270002.jpg
This is the picture next to the one above in the album. When looking at the original the colour is distinctly yellow, rather than orange but it is hard to tell in the scan. :)
Lotz-A-Landies
27th April 2011, 02:32 PM
Your dad would know, but I would assume that both DCA techs and Telecom linesmen would need to work at DCA facilities.
And yes when you blow the vehicle image up you can see that the SIII wagon is likely the DCA yellow.
:)
ScrubPleb
27th April 2011, 08:14 PM
If you do a white balance on the image, using the white on the tower as your sample, the orange is less vivid. Also if you zoom in on the door you can just make out the "M" and "G" of PMG.
Regards,
Peter.
wagoo
27th April 2011, 08:43 PM
The only ex PMG LandyI recall going through the sales yard at 4x4 Motors Blackburn during my time there was a 71 model 2a that was fitted with the earlier light casting version of the Salisbury rear diff and an ENV front end.
Anyone know if that was a common spec on PMG 2As ?
Wagoo.
tailslide
27th April 2011, 09:41 PM
Hi Shonky,
I tried sending you a PM but your inbox is full.:D
Anyway spoke to my dad and he recalls your father but he did not have a lot of contact with him. He thought your dad joined a few years after him.
I love the look of a 2A wagon...
Cheers
Ron
Shonky
28th April 2011, 12:36 AM
If you do a white balance on the image, using the white on the tower as your sample, the orange is less vivid. Also if you zoom in on the door you can just make out the "M" and "G" of PMG.
Regards,
Peter.
Except:
1) The person that was actually there is 100% certain that it is a DCA truck, as he spent a fair amount of time in and around it.
2) If you look at the slide from which the print was made, you can make out the DCA logo on the door - no PMG in sight.
3) The photo was taken before the colour change.
It's a DCA Land Rover people - case closed! :angel:
PS - went through a few thousand slides today and found some more Land Rovers (among other things. We're mainly doing this for family interest, but since we're sifting we may as well look for Landies too) Will get prints/digitals made and share. :)
drfish
8th June 2019, 07:40 PM
I'm visiting my old man in Perth at the moment, and this time I have finally got around to scanning some of his old Land Rover photos.
My Dad was a PMG (later Telecom, even later Telstra) Technician in the early 1970's and worked all over WA. Most of these photos were taken around Tom Price in approximately 1974.
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/670719/PMG%20Land%20Rovers/scan0012.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/670719/PMG%20Land%20Rovers/scan0009.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/670719/PMG%20Land%20Rovers/scan0008.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/670719/PMG%20Land%20Rovers/scan0005.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/670719/PMG%20Land%20Rovers/scan0004.jpg
Later they used Toyota Land Cruiser FJ55s, like this one:
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/670719/PMG%20Land%20Rovers/scan0013.jpg
This one is PMG red but most of the FJ55s in his pics are the later Telecom yellow colour which came in around 1975. (available per request - I haven't scanned them)
Thought these might be of interest to someone.
Of note is the tail light cups and brush bar, both of which are similar but distinctly different to military items of the same era. Also note the water bags on the brush bars!
Anyone else have some pics of PMG Landies to add to the record?
Hi Shonky,
One of the other members referred me to this old post about PMG series landy pics scanned from your old man. You mention red cars with brush bars and tail light guards etc which seem identical to my vehicle (although someone has butchered my roof). All the photo links to this old post are broken, I was wondering if there might be some way you could let me see them. Mine is a red 1972 2a (might be one of the absolute last 2a’s) sold through Faull’s in Subiaco.
Matt
Don 130
8th June 2019, 08:38 PM
Hi Shonky,
One of the other members referred me to this old post about PMG series landy pics scanned from your old man. You mention red cars with brush bars and tail light guards etc which seem identical to my vehicle (although someone has butchered my roof). All the photo links to this old post are broken, I was wondering if there might be some way you could let me see them. Mine is a red 1972 2a (might be one of the absolute last 2a’s) sold through Faull’s in Subiaco.
Matt
You might have more chance of success if you send Shonky a PM.
Don.
Bigbjorn
8th June 2019, 08:50 PM
Colours from memory of my time at Leyland.
PMG - Mercury Red
DCA - Aviation Orange
Telecom - Telecom Gold
Shonky
8th June 2019, 08:52 PM
Hi Shonky,
One of the other members referred me to this old post about PMG series landy pics scanned from your old man. You mention red cars with brush bars and tail light guards etc which seem identical to my vehicle (although someone has butchered my roof). All the photo links to this old post are broken, I was wondering if there might be some way you could let me see them. Mine is a red 1972 2a (might be one of the absolute last 2a’s) sold through Faull’s in Subiaco.
Matt
G'Day Matt.
I got a notification that my inbox is full, and found your post. Apologies that the photos are now dead links (as are all of the photos I posted on AULRO) but I no longer have a photobucket account.
I still have the photos, but since it will take me a while to figure out how to post them back here, it might be easier if I emailed you some?
I'll empty the inbox now so you can PM me your email address, if you'd like. :)
drfish
9th June 2019, 09:05 AM
Thanks Shonky. Perfect, I’ll pm now
Redback
11th June 2019, 12:58 PM
Like this Ex Telecom Series 3 of Blknights
https://www.aulro.com/app/data/517/medium/Cape_York_289.jpg
V8Ian
11th June 2019, 07:41 PM
Like this Ex Telecom Series 3 of Blknights
https://www.aulro.com/app/data/517/medium/Cape_York_289.jpg
Ah, Flossy.[bigsmile1]
GuyG
7th November 2019, 03:38 PM
The good old 2009 Cape York Trip :) with Dave carrying my second spare.
An excellent time
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