Roof Racks

[Gippslander]

Does anyone make a full length roof rack for a P38, also a rear bar with brackets for a spare wheel.

Frank

[Scouse]

*moved from GC to the P38 section.


There's nothing RR specific available locally as far as I know but some have adapted the next model RR rack to fit. It's a bit longer but looks OK as can be seen here:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/p38a-range-rover/126942-sandy-sunday-my-p38.html



There was some talk of Safety Devices remaking the P38 rack at one stage but i don't know the latest on that.

[RoverHse]

I have 3 bars and roof rack that I got from Rola.

[p38arover]

My rack (half length) was made for a previous P38A owner by Trademan Roof Racks in Melbourne.



For further information on Tradesman Roof Racks contact Tradesman at: sales@tradesmanadvance.com.au
(sales@tradesmanadvance.com.au)
Phone: 03 9722 5000
Fax: 03 9729 0048

Address: 13 Clare Street, Bayswater, Victoria 3153
P.O.Box: 130 Bayswater, Victoria 3153

[Gippslander]

Thanks agian Ron i have e-mailed them and will see what happens. Yours looks great well finished.
Frank

[PaulP38a]

A full-length "Expedition" style rack is on the drawing board at hardrange.com .... after we get our other long-overdue products out in to the wild :o

No timeframe yet, just intent... 'coz I want em for my toys ;)

Cheers, Paul.

[Gippslander]

Hey Paul have you got the raised air intake sorted as i would love to get hold of one.

Frank.

[p38arover]

Thanks agian Ron i have e-mailed them and will see what happens. Yours looks great well finished.
Frank

Do want any more close up pics of the legs, etc? The legs are, in my view, a little short and it's hard to get one's hands in under the rack to fit the clamping nuts and also to wash the roof.

[Gippslander]

Looks good Ron thanks i have found their web site and am awaiting reply as to what they have.

Frank

[wayneg]

Thank for those pics of the legs. Made me realise an old sytle gutter mount rack will fit with a simple mod. I have Just cut 5mm off the length of lower fixing lip of an old roof bar and it fits spot on into the rack locating points

[PaulP38a]

Frank - 4x4intelligence in Melbourne do a rear bar and wheel carrier. I have one on my car and am pretty happy with it.

Hard Range has one coming, but it is lower priority than the RAI (see below) and sliders. You can get the 4x4 Intelligence one now.

Ron - for a 15yo car, yours is way too clean and tidy. Up the hill from you a bit on Singles Ridge Rd is a nice track to dirty up your P38... just before the hard left-right bend at Yellow Rock It is still open as far as I could tell when I drove past it on Mother's Day.



Hey Paul have you got the raised air intake sorted as i would love to get hold of one.

Frank.

Don't want to hijack this thread... but... YES, we think so :D

I'll update the RAI thread with a bit more info.

Cheers, Paul.

[p38arover]

Ron - for a 15yo car, yours is way too clean and tidy.

Dirty my car? DIRTY MY CAR! Are you some kind of deviate, Paul? :mad:

Oh, and it's 16 not 15 years old.


:D

[996TURBO]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/05/1315.jpg

[996TURBO]

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[Marshall]

of course, the "how did you mount it" information may be handy:angel:

[996TURBO]

Custom adapters were made

[Marshall]

Custom adapters were made
:rulez:Do you have any close up photo's? are they like Ron's?

[996TURBO]

I'll shoot pics when i'll remove it.

[p38arover]

Have a look at this thread for some ideas: RangeRovers.net • View topic - Safety Devices roof rack mounting (http://rangerovers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2863)

Flo, your pix have disappeared from that thread. If you email them to me I can edit the thread to put them back (as attachments so they won't disappear in the future).

[DT-P38]

Not cheap, buit checkout roverracks.com they have a similar one to the safety devices rack and also a P38 rear ladder.

Exchange rates are good at the moment, but its a big lump of money. Don't forget to ask about freight costs if you get into it.

From memory the cheapest freight on the ladder I was looking at a while ago was US$99-

[p38arover]

Scotty on the RRNET forum is now making P38A ladders - a copy of the OEM unit. See RangeRovers.net • View topic - Ladder (http://rangerovers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=45892)

[DT-P38]

Are they in OZ Ron?

[p38arover]

Are they in OZ Ron?

Southern California - and I'm going there in August..... (Actually going to Seattle then down to SFO.)

[Scouse]

Southern California - and I'm going there in August.....so let me know how many you want Fixed !!

[Gippslander]

I have found an Australian manufacturer who supplies roof racks for P38's and all other Land Rover models. They are on the net at www.hannibalsafari.com.au (http://www.hannibalsafari.com.au). They have outlets all over and lots of extra goodies to bolt on including roof top tents. Thanks too everyone for your replies i find this forum extremely informative.

:D Frank

[p38arover]

Ahh, so Hannibal are bringing them in now.

[Remy]

Tradesman will also just sell the mounting gear like Ron's and then you can weld or bolt any rack on top. I just put three steel bars on the brackets. Captain HSE 4.6 2000 on this forum also had a custom rack made by tradesman which is very nice!
Cheers,
Remy

[juddy]

Ahh, so Hannibal are bringing them in now.

Hannibal have all ways carried the P38 Racks, part number HR09 and HR09-NR retail is $1900.....

[DT-P38]

Just saw this and it reminded me about those ladders... do you know are they making them yet Ron?

Assuming you are still going to the US (and even though it was a fix up not a real offer) would you bring me one back if the price is right?

[p38arover]

Just saw this and it reminded me about those ladders... do you know are they making them yet Ron?

Assuming you are still going to the US (and even though it was a fix up not a real offer) would you bring me one back if the price is right?

I'm not sure if, apart from the initial batch, they are available. I may bring one back - for me. I'll be heavily loaded with stuff for my bike and P38A so I doubt I'll carry for anyone else.

I've been getting stuff shipped to Seattle ready for me. The next lot is a set of 4 Bilsteins - only US$360 shipped in the USA.

[p38arover]

I have the ladder at home but it won't fit the car as it fouls my spare wheel (on swingaway carrier).

Bugger.

[DT-P38]

Ron,

That's a shame. Maybe I can help out... Decide which option you prefer (bumper/ wheel carrier or ladder) and sell me the other one!

I would be absolutely wrapped to have either as I am slowly building the pretty pig into the nations most accessorized p38!

Hoo roo, Dave

P.s. Would love to have dibs on either part (let me know if you have a $ figure you want), but seriously, you should auction them as they are both rare and desirable.

[996TURBO]

I have the ladder at home but it won't fit the car as it fouls my spare wheel (on swingaway carrier).

Bugger.

Bad for you but good to know since i'll make a swingaway carrier soon.

Maybe you could lengthen the swingaway arm in order to clear the ladder.

Still waiting for my ladder crossing oceans.

[p38arover]

Bad for you but good to know since i'll make a swingaway carrier soon.

Maybe you could lengthen the swingaway arm in order to clear the ladder.

Still waiting for my ladder crossing oceans.

Flo, the ladders Scotty currently makes are for the LHS of the car and suit a RHD vehicle. I suggested he reverse the plans and make them for the RHS of a LHD vehicle.

If you are making a wheel carrier, put it on the RHS (your passenger side) and Scotty's ladder will go on the LHS. Problem solved.

In my case, I could possibly space the wheel out further but it would need a bit of clearance to allow for flex.

[p38arover]

Ron,

That's a shame. Maybe I can help out... Decide which option you prefer (bumper/ wheel carrier or ladder) and sell me the other one!

I would be absolutely wrapped to have either as I am slowly building the pretty pig into the nations most accessorized p38!

Hoo roo, Dave

P.s. Would love to have dibs on either part (let me know if you have a $ figure you want), but seriously, you should auction them as they are both rare and desirable.


Don't worry, every so often, I consider selling the ladder, roof rack. long range tank, and rear bar. I'll never use them. :(

[PaulP38a]

Scotty is supposed to be sending me 2 ladders. Must chase him up to see where they are.

The ladder should work fine on my blue P38, as the tyre carrier sits to the RHS.

Ron, I want your rack... roof rack that is, to be clear ;)

Cheers, Paul.

[p38arover]

Scotty is supposed to be sending me 2 ladders. Must chase him up to see where they are.

Sorry I coudn't bring them back with me Paul. Apart from Scotty forgetting to meet me in LAX, my luggage was through booked from SFO so I couldn't have added the ladders to my luggage anyway.

[RR01]

I have the tradies brand rack with those low mounts.
On opening the sun roof the sunroof contacts the rack!

Down side of this is that the winder mechanism broke when my wife operated the sunroof and kept going. Not her fault by the way.
I now have to remove the sun roof, hood liner, roof rack etc. To replace the mechanism. Really ****ed off as you can imagine.

Will be going back to tradesman racks to get different legs to make sure this does not happen again. To me or others.

Steve

[p38arover]

I have the tradies brand rack with those low mounts.
On opening the sun roof the sunroof contacts the rack!

Down side of this is that the winder mechanism broke when my wife operated the sunroof and kept going. Not her fault by the way.
I now have to remove the sun roof, hood liner, roof rack etc. To replace the mechanism. Really ****ed off as you can imagine.

Will be going back to tradesman racks to get different legs to make sure this does not happen again. To me or others.

Steve

My rack was also a Tradies half rack that was at the back of the car. But you are right, the legs are too short. One cannot wash the roof of the car without removing the rack.

Maybe some spacers between the legs and the rack would work. I was going to try that myself.

Re the sunroof, you can replace the mechanism without removing the headlining. I've done it as have many others. The workshop manual doesn't specify removing the headlining. However, there are some very fragile clips.

See http://www.rangerovers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=47791#p368632 and scroll down through the pix.

I've sold my rack (and as I don't have a rack, I sold the ladder, too).

[PaulP38a]

I've sold my rack (and as I don't have a rack, I sold the ladder, too).

Happy are the roof racks and ladder on their new steed, hmmm yes ;)
http://paulp38a.com/gallery/d/5448-1/IMG-20111003-00204.jpg

Cheers, Paul.

[RR01]

Hey Frank.
I had a rack fitted by tradesman racks in melbourne its a full length oval bar flat rack to take a roof tent.
Make sure you get brackets high enough so you can open the sunroof or you will break the little plastic bits that pop the glass up.
It cost around 800 bucks

[Gippslander]

Thanks for that Steve and it was good to meet you yesterday:), your rig looks a treat roof rack is next on the list.

Frank

[RR01]

How much of a coincidence was that!
Real pleasure meeting you too Frank.
Picked up a side awning for the old girl. Fitted this morning between showers.
Great looking unit.

[davidsonsm]

How much of a coincidence was that!
Real pleasure meeting you too Frank.
Picked up a side awning for the old girl. Fitted this morning between showers.
Great looking unit.

Can you tell me which side awning you ended up buying and what size? Appreciated. Thanks.

[Gippslander]

Sounds great hope to get to see it one day if you are planning going up my way anytime give me a shout i will go for a spin if i am home.:)
Frank.

[RR01]

Can you tell me which side awning you ended up buying and what size? Appreciated. Thanks.

I ended up with the tigerz11 2.5m x 2.5m
Fitted in half an hour and works really well.
4WD SUPER STORE industrial drive lilydale

[RR01]

Sounds great hope to get to see it one day if you are planning going up my way anytime give me a shout i will go for a spin if i am home.:)
Frank.

Cheers Frank
I'll give you a bell when I'm on my way down next time I visit the folks in moe.

[p38arover]

See http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread.php?p=2159372#post2159372

I had a Tradesman half rack but sold it to Paul Cordwell - possibly a mistake. :D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/1371.jpg

I've always liked the Safety Devices rack

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/05/1137.jpg

Would there be any interest in a group buy of a custom rack?

[TheTree]

Ron

Tradesman had their oval roofracks listed for the P38 last year, no pics there any more, but I am pretty sure they could do one.

I always liked the look of them ;-)

Range Rover Roof Rack | Tradesman Roof Racks (http://www.tradesmanroofracks.com.au/shop/land-rover/range-rover-roof-rack/)

In fact looking at the first pic, that is a tradesman oval

Steve

[p38arover]

Yes, mine was a Tradesman Oval. It was too close to the roof, one couldn't get a hand under it to wash the roof.

No pics on Tradesman's site with a P38A with a rack.

[p38arover]

When one costs it all out, buying a custom rack is probably cheaper than buying 3 Rhino crossbars and feet (approx $650) and a rack to bolt to it (approx $1000). Both are overpriced.

[TheTree]

Ron

I currently have 3 ProRack Whispbars on mine and was thinking a Rhino or similar might be the go. I currently have an Aldi half basket which was under 100 bucks ;)

I winder if tradesman would make a rack to a spec? They obviously have the measurements and have done it before.

One thing, as you mentioned, would be taller mounting brackets

Steve

[p38arover]

I sent them an email along with a pic of mine.

[Pete38]

I've been thinking a few times about roof cage. I made enquiries about a Hannibal one I think it was. Not so cheap so it made me think do I really need one until I do a big trip up north. Have almost bought a set of 3 roof racks but stinged out each time because of no essential need for them at the moment.

But I'd consider a roof cage if you find anything though so keep me posted.

[Hoges]

I bought a steel 4' roof basket/cage which bolts straight onto the existing two roof bars. IIRC was about $75 on special at one of the usual outlets. Used it just for the second spare, a couple of folding camping chairs, folded tarps etc. I don't leave it permanently attached.

[Wallyb]

I just run 3 Rola racks with a Rola cage...

The pick with the cage in situ. I 99% of the time run around with just the racks on.

I have thought of building my own cage so it covers all three racks.

I will be interested in seeing what you guys come out with.

[bruce p38]

I bought a Tradesman roof rack and I'm mostly happy with the purchase
I had it customised a bit with arial and light mounting tabs, sunroof cut out and light bar. It comes off easy with the cordless and two people as its quite strong but light weight. I don't like the fact the wind shield doesn't wrap around the sides like I've seen on other rr and the fact the perspex warps in the very hot days (returns to shape once cool !) The people were professional and friendly
and it cost approx $ 1500 Its the steel model not alu

Cheers

B p38

[mtb_gary]

I was looking at this one a couple of years ago but in the end I decided it was an overkill for what I needed. So I have now got Thule racks and a tubular Rola cage when needed (all up around $250).

Below is a link to the USA manufacturer.

MyPlasmaCutting.com (http://www.frednelsonfabrication.com/Roof%20Rack%20P38%20sales.htm)

At the time I made contact with The company and the price was negotiable and shipping was quite reasonable (just can't remember the price). They had originally put the rack on eBay to get some exposure.

Gary

[TheTree]

Gary

That is a very cool looking rack !

Expensive to ship probably:angry:

Steve

[TheTree]

Hi

I was just cruising fleabay and found this

Killa Universal Roof Basket Rack Steel Black Powdercoated Fits Cross Bars NEW | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Killa-Universal-Roof-Basket-Rack-Steel-Black-Powdercoated-Fits-Cross-Bars-New-/281354031448)

It looks a pretty good size and the price is not outrageous !

Steve

[mtb_gary]

Good find there Steve. Would that still allow you to open up the roof?

Gary

[davidsonsm]

Does anybody know of some compatible feet that could be used with a rack like the killa? Looks like the killa needs cross rails, which raises its height considerably.

[Hoges]

The standard (OEM) cross rails would probably do the job. You need some space to be able to allow the sunroof to operate (even if "accidentally").
The rack itself seems like it could withstand a lot of punishment... but it's attached to the crossbars with quite slim U-bolts and hand tightened nuts. The crossbars in turn, are held in place with very small screws... just saying...:angel:
BTW, a 6'rack needs to be moved as far forward as possible so as not to damage the upper tailgate when fully opened... :wasntme:

[TheTree]

Hi

Seems like some different needs here Ron didn't like the fact that he couldn't clean under the Tradesman rack but the other side of the coin is the rack getting too high off the car.

I agree the mountings on the killa could be better but it looks like it may be able to be attached using the standard bolt type arrangement

Steve

[davidsonsm]

Personally I like the roof hugging profile. Never really touch the sunroof. At present I have the factory rails, rhino clamps with HD aero bars, topped off with the rhino rack aluminium affair. Great set up if a little fiddly to install . And it sits quite high & probably doesn't use all the space available. In considering an alternate, I'd like the option of fitting a roof tent. Just saying. Just in case like. Therefore the 1/3 rack/basket and 2/3 tray is quite appealing to me.

And all with a load limit of 75kg including the rack - yeah?

[joel0407]

I made my own because I absolutly hate weight up top for stablilty reasons but I have a roof top tent so this is what I made.

The text actually fits 3/4 on the fabricated rack and the last 1/4 ends up on the factory rails. My fabricated rack had to match the height of the factory rails.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/1234.jpg (http://s560.photobucket.com/user/joel0407/media/Disco/4DEE15D5-8FCF-42DE-8C42-EDCA05C5C787_zpstfpwmw8z.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/1235.jpg (http://s560.photobucket.com/user/joel0407/media/Disco/71A389A4-A125-4EAB-9779-2A9B0756410A_zpsuji9x2ni.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/1236.jpg (http://s560.photobucket.com/user/joel0407/media/Disco/69B54A60-704E-4BB4-9E4F-7974A9582BEA_zpsdse5layn.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/1237.jpg (http://s560.photobucket.com/user/joel0407/media/Disco/AEC621D0-8AFC-4C57-866B-6A38896B41A5_zpshdrqqeip.jpg.html)

[joel0407]

Oh and there's awning on the other side too.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/1233.jpg (http://s560.photobucket.com/user/joel0407/media/Disco/B9E24836-C429-4005-A5C2-E3F7D929292E_zpsxqlf4het.jpg.html)

[joel0407]

And now it's more aerodynamic.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/1216.jpg (http://s560.photobucket.com/user/joel0407/media/Disco/5BDDFE67-2005-4524-9906-1817CC684E04_zpsubplnhys.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/1217.jpg (http://s560.photobucket.com/user/joel0407/media/Disco/14288A02-A1AB-4C73-A1D9-51197BE155F2_zpsytonp61g.jpg.html)

[mtb_gary]

Looks pretty good, but what's with the bulldog clips?

Gary

[joel0407]

Looks pretty good, but what's with the bulldog clips?

Gary

There gone now.

The fold is now glued and clipped at the bottom. Been tested at 130km/h.

Happy Days

[TheTree]

Jole,

Very cool:cool:

Love the number plate and lettering as well :D

Steve

[p38arover]

I received a reply from Tradesman:


Good afternoon Ron,

Thank you for your enquiry. The prices for a P38 Range Rover are:
- Oval Steel $1227.00
- Oval Alloy $1479.00
- Mesh floor extra $160.00
If you would like to order or have any more queries please let me know.
Thank you.

Kind Regards,

Sarah Nipper | Administration

Not cheap but better looking than what I currently have fitted:


http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=78710&stc=1&d=1402396321

[TheTree]

Hi Ron,

I agree with both of your comments ;-)

Steve

[bruce p38]

Hi I suggest asking re the wind deflector as there's a fair amount of turbulence up there (just try having the SR open at 80ks) so I'm wondering if re wind deflector could wrap around the sides to help a bit also the mesh makes it noisier

Regards

Bruce

[benji]

On my classic I had a wind deflector on a mesh basket - it made a slight difference to noise, but a big difference on drag.

This basket didn't drone at all from the wind though.

Sent from my GT-I9305T using AULRO mobile app

[PaulP38a]

I had a Tradesman half rack but sold it to Paul Cordwell - possibly a mistake. :D

You wanna buy it back? It has mostly been hanging in the top of my garage for the past couple of years while the wife has been driving the black P38. As it is currently "her car", she prefers the look of the three factory cross-bars.
The half rack is a heavy beast to get on and off the P38, I imagine the full rack would be a 2-4 man job.



I've always liked the Safety Devices rack
Would there be any interest in a group buy of a custom rack?
Yep, absolutely.
I would then be happy to lose the cross bars and the Tradesman half rack.

[RoverHse]

I have the Rola rack and bars. Not to noisy and not too heavy.

[redandy3575]

Got the rhino bars in mine which support the rooftop tent as seen in my profile picture.

[Striker]

Hey Everyone,

Being that the P38 is a little older that what's generally floating about, I'm having difficulty finding roof-racks for it.
Both eBay and the AULRO for sale forums aren't being real helpful, so I figured I'd ask where all the P38 fans hang out.

Ideally I'm just looking for three crossbars, to fit a roof top tent to. I don't need/want a basket, but I wouldn't mind a light-mount at the front.

--Striker.

[p38arover]

This is my current rack - bought on clearance a couple of months back from Performance 4x4 (through a member here) and fitted to my Thule bars. Note, it's a different rack from my previous pic.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=85183&stc=1&d=1412749084

[Striker]

This is my current rack - bought on clearance a couple of months back from Performance 4x4 (through a member here) and fitted to my Thule bars. Note, it's a different rack from my previous pic.

The Thule bars (or similar) would be what I'm after, I think.

Just something to bolt a roof top tent to.

--Striker.

[p38arover]

To be honest, Thule bars aren't that useful. They are, however, very easy to remove and refit.

The Rhino bars are over-priced but much more versatile.

[Striker]

Ron,

Do I need to get a set specifically for the P38? If so, where would I source them? (The Rhino, if the Thule are rubbish), or can I walk in to any SuperCheap auto, and pick up a universal set?

(As you can probably tell, I've never had to get roof rack before).

--Striker.

[p38arover]

Rhino do legs for the P38A.

Legs RLTPRR. See http://www.aulro.com/afvb/p38a-range-rover/202681-roof-bar-mounting-detail-p38.html#post2194238

Get the square bars, not the oval bars, for what you need.

[davidsonsm]

I've got the rhino aero heavy duty cross bars and they're a good option when considering wind noise.

I used to have them attached to rhino feet that fitted the gutters, but now have clamping type feet, which attach to the factory fit roof rails (the front to rear ones).

There's an arch profile to the roof, so the front and rear feet need a spacer, when compared the middle pair of feet.

I have a rhino tray that can be attached to the cross bars. I'd love a full length rack to leave in situ.

[Striker]

Rhino do legs for the P38A.

Legs RLTPRR. See http://www.aulro.com/afvb/p38a-range-rover/202681-roof-bar-mounting-detail-p38.html#post2194238

Get the square bars, not the oval bars, for what you need.

So I've checked this out:
Fit My Car | Rhino-Rack (http://www.rhinorack.com.au/fit-my-car/results/1108/land-rover-range-rover-4dr-4wd-05-95-to-07-02)

Apparently for the two-bar setup, it has a load rating of 50 kilos.
I'm assuming that's some fancy at-speed or braking loading? I hope so, as I'm about 110 kilos, and my RTT is about 65.

--Striker.

[Hoges]

The P38 has a total roof load of 75kg. This is a 'dynamic' load for smooth roads... the static load is probably double this at least. For a roof top tent plus yr own body weight I'd recommend 3 bars to distribute the load.

[TheTree]

I personally like the ProRack WhispBar. ProRack also make a square bar like the thule bar and have factory mounting kits

SuperCrap and BCF carry them

Steve

[rc42]

The P38 has a slight roof curve so the center bar is 15mm higher than the front and rear bars, with two bars it's not an issue but if you fit three you'll need a 15mm spacer on the front and on the rear to create a level rack. I have the heavy duty Whisbar set so spacer kits are available in 5mm increments.

[p38arover]

Awning questions moved to an existing thread: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/camping-tucker-bush-basics/194864-what-size-awning.html