fitting 35's

[ezrak33]

G'day guys,

This is my first ever post on this, i'm pretty computer illiterate so sorry if I am doing something wrong.

i've got a 98 v8, so far have tough dogs 35mm lift and a 2 inch body lift at home waiting to be put on. Got 33's on there now, don't really fit with just the tough dog lift.

After the body lift is on, would i be able to fit 35's?

Also, anyone know a place which would fit fibreglass flares on. I got the front two on, but i must say im pretty bad with an angle grinder and am struggling with the two back ones.

Cheers guys,

Ezra

[mandala1111]

Personally I would not go anything taller than 33 inch tires.It just starts stressing driveline components,makes the gearing too tall for steep descents,puts more stress on the brakes and steering.I learned this years ago from personal experience with running over sized tires.Now I run nothing taller than 32 inch tires.
Cheers
Shane

[loanrangie]

Once you fit the flares the 35's will fit but as said you'll want to take it easy on the driveline, saying that nicho on the forum here has 35's on his D1 with stock diffs (HD axles though) and he had no problems at Jamieson 2 weekends ago. Those big airbags give a whole lot of traction when needed.

[Jezzaol]

I have run the Tough Dog Suspension with a 40mm body lift with 35's on myy v8 Disco for over 5 years, better to upgrade the axels and CW&P while your putting some diff locks in !

Gearing is th biggest issue, the standard 3.55 ratios are just no good, 4.11 crown wheel and pinion sets make it fairly spot on !

All in all it works very well, just be aware that you can get away with all the drive line as it is pritty much is if you stay with 33" max, and when you add the cost of the rubber, rims, axels, lockers & CW&P sets to run 35's it will add up to more than you would pay for most D1 v8's !

BUT IT LOOKS GOOD :twisted:

As fo the flares, just keep going with it, the flares seem to hide most stuffups;)

[ezrak33]

cheers for the help. yeah sounds good if the flares can hide my incompetance haha!!

as for the 35's, got some other work on it to do before i can do it, going to tassie over new years for about 3 weeks so definitely won't be doing it before then, gotta think about saving on fuel haha!

also, if anyone has actually done tassie, reccomendations for the car? or spots to see? also, which tyres should i be running, more muddy stuff there or would the all terrains be better for the sand? cheers

[Rezley]

I'll be in Tassie at the same time, will try to do Balfour track this time on West Coast. Did a little bit around Mt. William national park and ST. Helens last time.

I'll be watching this thread for any other ideas for West Coast or North East Coast.

I won't be running 35's though....hopefully have new 235/85s by then.

Cheers,
Rez

[ezrak33]

cheers for your input on tassie mate, can't wait for the trip!!
regarding jezzaol's comment, im a bit new to this off roading stuff what does the diff ratio do. i have heard it changes speedos, but does it do anything to fuel consumption, or the way the car drives? is it a hard and expensive process?

Cheers guys

[loanrangie]

cheers for your input on tassie mate, can't wait for the trip!!
regarding jezzaol's comment, im a bit new to this off roading stuff what does the diff ratio do. i have heard it changes speedos, but does it do anything to fuel consumption, or the way the car drives? is it a hard and expensive process?

Cheers guys

By matching the right ratio to your tyre size your speedo and gearing will be corrected back close to original, this will mean easier takeoffs and close to original fuel economy (or lack there of on a V8)- yes it is expensive once you go bigger than 33's to upgrade your driveline to cope with it. Cheapest option is to fit GQ/ LC80 f & r diffs which means some fabrication and wheel change .

[Jezzaol]

LaonRangie your spot on ! I also found with the V8 that it just did not cruise right with the 3.55 ratios, struggled with hills and fuel economy as you said worse than the allready BAD !, 4.11's makes everything just feel right again !!

Cheers
Jeremy


By matching the right ratio to your tyre size your speedo and gearing will be corrected back close to original, this will mean easier takeoffs and close to original fuel economy (or lack there of on a V8)- yes it is expensive once you go bigger than 33's to upgrade your driveline to cope with it. Cheapest option is to fit GQ/ LC80 f & r diffs which means some fabrication and wheel change .

[tassydisco]

I have run the Tough Dog Suspension with a 40mm body lift with 35's on myy v8 Disco for over 5 years, better to upgrade the axels and CW&P while your putting some diff locks in !

Gearing is th biggest issue, the standard 3.55 ratios are just no good, 4.11 crown wheel and pinion sets make it fairly spot on !

All in all it works very well, just be aware that you can get away with all the drive line as it is pritty much is if you stay with 33" max, and when you add the cost of the rubber, rims, axels, lockers & CW&P sets to run 35's it will add up to more than you would pay for most D1 v8's !

BUT IT LOOKS GOOD :twisted:

As fo the flares, just keep going with it, the flares seem to hide most stuffups;)


Hey mate what your saying here is spot on. I run a 65mm bodylift with 2 inch OME suspension lift and LRA fibrglass flares with the 35s no worries (if want to see more check out 4wd Action issue 164 - current issue), definately reccommend upgrading driveline components for the long run, standard lr diffs will only suffer for so long before chucking it in, i've seen it happen first hand! AS for for tassie mate, let me know when you'll be down, us tas LR owners will show you why we live here! :)

[tassydisco]

cheers for your input on tassie mate, can't wait for the trip!!
regarding jezzaol's comment, im a bit new to this off roading stuff what does the diff ratio do. i have heard it changes speedos, but does it do anything to fuel consumption, or the way the car drives? is it a hard and expensive process?

Cheers guys


to run 35s on the disco would be nearly impossible without changing your diff ratios. I don't reckon you'd be using 5th gear much, a heck of a lot of stress and i would think you'd soon be wishing for smaller tires again :o

[metaldisco]

i was wondering about something similar.
how wide a tyre can you fit on a disco?
i was looking at 33x12.5x15 but im worried about them rubbing

[nicho]

Auto trans makes STD ratio livable but you do need to change them if you want low range back. After christmas I should be getting air lockers and gears. 12.5's will require adjusting the lock on your steering or your going to rub on the radius arms. I love the look and feel of 35's, would I settle for smaller to get better fuel economy HE'LL NO. But as Jeremy said don't even think about it until you upgrade ur axles and cv's at minimum i also upgraded my steering arms and radius arms, there is a hell of a lot to do to make it 1) Legal 2) Drive right 3) Give the suspension room to travel. But its worth it when you hit the tracks. I blew my rear diff at Easter but the axles didn't feel a thing. I expect to blow another at least before I get the lockers but just can't afford them at the moment. The bigger you go the more you need to modify and the more $$$$ you have to shell out, makes it cheaper if you can do most of the work yourself and gives you satisfaction that "You did it". One last point to make note of is the higher you go the more unbalanced it can feel so think about offset wheels to widen your track. I have -4.25 offset wheels and it feels more stable than it did std unless your sideways on Mt Terrible track hey Loanrangie :)

[nicho]

I'm sure if you pm any of us that have done it we can answer any questions you have in depth so you don't make the same mistakes we have and save some $$$ for more mods :)

[metaldisco]

i saw how close the standard tyre is to the radius arms on the passenger side.
i might go -25 offset rims and just go for 285x75x16's so i dont have to modify or adjust anything

[mandala1111]

Those that have fitted 35inch tyres,how have you found the braking.In my experience with vehicles I have fitted large tyres on, one of them being an old Rangie is that the brakes were really being over stressed and needed quite a bit more pressure on the pedal to stop and even to the point on many occasions I found it unsafe.I am a bit older and wiser now and would not do it again as it causes too many problems and too many mods need doing which gets very expensive also which has been mentioned.Good luck.
Cheers
Shane

[loanrangie]

A vented front rotor / caliper conversion will help with the brakes.

[tassydisco]

brakes are definatly lacking now i run 35's, and yes i would say nearly to the point of unsafe. Not sure how good disco brakes are to start with but it takes a bit of ground to pull up when trying to stop in a hurry from 110kmph. If you're going to modify your car up to the point where u can run 35's, no matter how hard you try its never gonna handle the same as a standard vehicle. i have 25mm spacers on all 4 corners now, i was suprised at how much more stable it is on corners and off camber tracks now.

[nicho]

Yes Brake upgrade is also on the cards. I find that when reversing down a hill they seem very vague. They overheat easily so you have to go easy on them and mine are all brand new. Going to speak to hoppers stoppers and see what they can do for me in the not to distant future

[mandala1111]

Good luck with the brakes upgrade,all I know is that Land Rover brakes in my experience with 2 Rangies and 1 Disco is that they don't seem to be great unless you are running standard sized tyres.I would be keen to know if anyone has had success with making the brakes better.Loanrangie suggested fitting vented rotors but how much of a difference does this really make ?.Maybe a booster upgrade is possible ?
Cheers
Shane