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Graeme
23rd May 2011, 09:23 PM
My wife was sitting in the car today when a person approached our vehicle from the front and unlocked our already unlocked D4 along with his Hyundai parked behind. The person could easily have seen the D4's blinkers flash and could also have recorded our rego for future reference - not a comforting feeling!

Grumbles
24th May 2011, 04:54 AM
WOW!!! I'd be having a good chat to Mr. Landrover about that.

~Rich~
24th May 2011, 04:59 AM
Jeeze is this another World first from you Graeme?
Seriously I'd be jumping up and down to as many LR contacts as I could.

Graeme
24th May 2011, 06:12 AM
I suspect that no vehicle manufacturer has a unique range of codes and that its just a rare coincidence that 2 vehicles with the same code were parked adjacent to each other. The problem is that this country town isn't that big and my vehicle is the only one of this colour so its easily recognisable even without knowing the rego. Perhaps LR will change the code because of the demonstrated security exposure. Meanwhile I think I should turn-off the blinker indication.

Narangga
24th May 2011, 06:30 AM
My wife was sitting in the car today when a person approached our vehicle from the front and unlocked our already unlocked D4 along with his Hyundai parked behind. The person could easily have seen the D4's blinkers flash and could also have recorded our rego for future reference - not a comforting feeling!

Forgive my ignorance but is your vehicle key start or push button start?

Obviously key start makes it harder for the Hyundai owner to start your vehicle.

MickS
24th May 2011, 06:33 AM
Korean tech meets English tech :lol2:

p38arover
24th May 2011, 06:45 AM
I suspect that no vehicle manufacturer has a unique range of codes and that its just a rare coincidence that 2 vehicles with the same code were parked adjacent to each other.

Aren't they rolling codes so that the next time the code (for each remote) will be different?

Graeme
24th May 2011, 06:57 AM
Rolling codes? I don't know.

Its push-button start so perhaps no problem there but unlocking the vehicle for anyone to gain access even isn't good. However I've just remembered that if no door is opened within a short time, the vehicle will re-lock itself. I've cursed this feature on numerous occasions but now see it in a different light!

Geedublya
24th May 2011, 07:22 AM
I remember having a bit of fun a few years ago when I noticed my Falcon remote would unlock a Camry at Sydney airport.

The Camry owners had just locked their car when I locked mine and I noticed theirs unlocked. They locked theirs again and I unlocked it with my remote we did this about 4 times before they started getting very confused and I decided to leave.
Interestingly the Camry remote did not affect my Falcon but my Falcon remote would lock and unlock the Camry.

Neil P
24th May 2011, 07:42 AM
Try explaining that one to Firearms Licensing when your
guns are gone :eek2:

oldsalt
24th May 2011, 09:42 AM
As I have mentioned in another post - I used to work with Qantas Valet parking and on one very quiet day during the Christmas lull we took a bunch of keys to our secure parking area and tried pushing various "remotes" to see what would happen .... and sure enough we had quite a few cars "opened" by "other" keys ... as you mentioned some had "rolling" codes as we could only open the doors once and then it would lock us out ... we did this "experiment" as a result of various team members mentioning that they had "opened" two cars at a time occasional - I was sceptical at first but after a few "examples" I was convinced. We mentioned this phenomenon to a Merc dealer who was visiting and he said "it is a problem" but doesn't happen enough to worry about ... easily said if it's not your vehicle !!!!
cheers

lpj
24th May 2011, 09:58 AM
I'll remember this next time I consider using Valet parking:)

PAT303
24th May 2011, 10:06 AM
The bloke across the road from my parents had to get his roller door code changed because it would lock his commodore every time he opened it. Pat

Lotz-A-Landies
24th May 2011, 10:43 AM
They can make computer WiFi devices have unique (MAC address) codes. It seems to me that the automotive manufacturers are just being cheap using out-dated technology.

On the other side of the coin, the improvement in automotive security has resulted in a reduction of vehicles being stolen off the street with a concurrent increase in the rate of car-jackings for the same purpose.

Don't know about you and I know how frustrating it can be when a car is stolen, but I'd rather it be stolen on the street that suffering the risk of injury in a car-jacking.

Diana

Neil P
24th May 2011, 11:15 AM
..I'd rather it be stolen on the street that suffering the risk of injury in a car-jacking.

My nephew had a Stanley knife put to this throat
when driving home in Liverpool UK a couple of years back,
whilst stopped at a set of pedestrian-activated crossing lights.
ALWAYS lock your doors. He stepped out and the two guys
drove off in this mother's new Mini . It was abandoned 35miles
away in Manchester's less than pleasant neighbourhoods.

gps-au
24th May 2011, 06:49 PM
I suspect that no vehicle manufacturer has a unique range of codes and that its just a rare coincidence that 2 vehicles with the same code were parked adjacent to each other.

Yup !!

Several years ago I was o/s for a few months and ended up buy a Hyundai Getz 2nd hand to run around in. (Actually it cost me more than a new one here would have and I got it cheap there !!) Turns out that my neighbors vehicle was coded the same (different manufacturer).

It was actually quite easy to take my car down to the local dealer and borrow his obdii unit to recode my keys and ignition, took about 5 minutes per key (with checking).

Mind you next day had to go back and do it again, as I had set the code as a different neighbor across the street (ARG!!!!).

Graeme
24th May 2011, 07:37 PM
Thanks gps-au - I wondered about just recoding the keys. I have an MVS2 so will be checking if there's an option to recode the keys at the same time as making a few setting changes. The MVS2 doesn't show what it can do unless its connected to the PC and vehicle.

Jamo
25th May 2011, 09:00 PM
I once had to unlock my MkII Cortina with a wire coathanger (I'd locked the keys in).

Then, a few years later I had an XY wagon and I was able to use the same coathanger to unlock that car after a similar occurrence!:eek:

p38arover
26th May 2011, 06:17 AM
I once had to unlock my MkII Cortina with a wire coathanger (I'd locked the keys in).

Then, a few years later I had an XY wagon and I was able to use the same coathanger to unlock that car after a similar occurrence!:eek:

Amazing that they cars were coded the same so that the coathanger worked with both - except the cars were from ther same manufacturer. Bloody cheapskates at Ford who wouldn't invest in rolling code hangers!