Snakes alive and this is a big muver!

[drivesafe]

I just received this from a relo in the USA, does anybody know anything about it?

This picture of a King Brown was taken at Branxton, NSW in April this year.:eek:

http://www.traxide.com.au/pics/King Brown.jpg

[Benny_IIA]

I just received this from a relo in the USA, does anybody know anything about it?

This picture of a King Brown was taken at Branxton, NSW in April this year.:eek:



It's big:D

[cal415]

Saw this on facebook, a friend of a friend on my facebook posted it apparently taken near there house recently, other then that thats about all i know.... ****ing scary looking snake.

[Scouse]

It may not be what it seems:

Picture of Huge King Brown Snake in Branxton NSW (http://www.hoax-slayer.com/king-brown-snake.shtml)

[CraigE]

It may not be what it seems:

Picture of Huge King Brown Snake in Branxton NSW (http://www.hoax-slayer.com/king-brown-snake.shtml)

Would like to see a higher resolution picture.
It is not an Olive Python has has been inferred in the slayer web. Wrong colour and wrong shaped head.
It does look like a King Brown of some sort.
IMHO the image has been photo shopped. Maybe elongated or a python body with a King Brown head. Proportions dont look right.
Scale is a bit hard to gauge as well. Perspective would be better and give us some idea of the length.
Having said that I have seen Western Browns over 9ft long, A huge Tiger at around 11ft long and King Browns over 8ft, and a couple of 7-8ft blacks and red bellied blacks, though rare. All witnessed by more than 2 people. On our trip up to Broome driving through one of the low lying wetlands saw the biggest python (Olive Python I think) I have ever seen in Australia would have been 14ft plus long and a girth of around 3-4inches. They are known to grow up to 6.5m long with unconfirmed 8m specimens sighted. Not found in the area the phot was allegedly taken.Was too dangerous to turn the car and van around to go back and get a pic, but was itching too,
The big ones tend to shy away and avoid humans. The majority of the ones we pick up are between 4 inches and 2ft long.
An interesting thing is a King Brown is not infact a brown snake at all, but a black snake: King Brown (Mulga Snake) Genus Pseudechis australis up to 2.5m long. Colouration can vary from a light brown as juveniles, to darker brown, black, black with green tinge, black with blue tinge.

As for the pic what is the crop in the back drop, are they pineapples?
Cheers
Craig

[cartm58]

I received that picture from a friend in Melbourne with the following details

Subject: Big snake
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 13:13:00 +1000

Received in an email chain originating from someone's mate working on an Abigroup project in Cardwell (Qld).

They took this pic on site Thu 12 May 2011.

In the world of email and pictures trust no one

[woody]

I can't confirm validity but found this reply

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Pedro_The_Swift]

its a cane field,,

that "snake" would make me have an accident!!:eek:

[drivesafe]

This is why I asked the question.

This seemed to good ( BAD ) to be true!

[slug_burner]

Nessy in Oz?

[Dinty]

G'day All, No sugar cane growing anywhere near Branxton NSW, it (Branxton) is only 20K's from where I live, even the scene in the pic not even close to anything around the area, I saw the same pic a while ago and thought at the time, some one has fiddled it, and if it were true it would have made TV news anyway cheers Dennis:angel:

[Scouse]

if it were true it would have made TV news anyway cheers Dennis:angel:You mean like this:
http://www.nbntv.com.au/index.php/2011/04/12/giant-snake-spotted-in-the-hunter-valley/

[roverrescue]

CraigE,
Is an Olive Python the same as an Amethystine Python?

Twice up this way (once in Lakefield and once on my neighbours driveway) I have stopped for massive pythons that were 4-6m long crossing the road, I was under the impression they were Amethystine Pythons.

Steve

[TerryO]

Unfortunately snakes are a part of the joys of living in the country sometimes.

Last night when I came home Mitchel our 18 year old son said I should check out behind the blind of the floor to ceiling window in the lounge. Sure enough there inside the house by the window was a dead baby Tiger snake.

Now that sends a shiver down my spine as how the hell did it get inside the house as we religilously make sure all outside doors are closed all the time. Makes me wonder if there is a one dead snake inside the house if we have any other alive hibernating baby Tigers tucked away elsewhere in the house waiting for spring. :(

cheers,
Terry

[land864]

What's that big lump in it's middle:eek:

**** , I think it ate Vlads mates tiger;)

[101RRS]

Done to death here

Australian 4WD Action | Forum - View topic - Fake snake (http://www.4wdaction.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=112305&hilit=snake)

[ramblingboy42]

jeez. I'm gonna have to get the whoppa stoppa out again. c'mon guys you havent seen 8/9' king browns and similar sized tigers or taipans......they just dont exist.....dont argue with me.....consult the experts.....huge spiders and snakes exist in peoples minds. Check Australia Zoo, they have heaps of snake info. That picture has been circulating for ages and I think it gets bigger everytime it reappears.

[101RRS]

c'mon guys you havent seen 8/9' king browns

They do grow to 3m (10') but that snake is even bigger than that.

See King Brown here.

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[alexi]

As pointed out it may me a sculpture in Alstonville.
I'm heading down to Alstonville area in a few weeks, to be honest i lived there for years and can't remember seeing it. I might just go and check it out, i know the road in question. I'll report my findings.

[CraigE]

I can't confirm validity but found this reply

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/9226/snap2011052606h19m35s00.png

A little too good for wood and steel. Dubious about that.

[CraigE]

jeez. I'm gonna have to get the whoppa stoppa out again. c'mon guys you havent seen 8/9' king browns and similar sized tigers or taipans......they just dont exist.....dont argue with me.....consult the experts.....huge spiders and snakes exist in peoples minds. Check Australia Zoo, they have heaps of snake info. That picture has been circulating for ages and I think it gets bigger everytime it reappears.

Sorry, but you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I have a few snake books and they can grow up to 2.5 m normally with some being seen at 3m. I go and catch snakes regularly at work. It is definately not the norm but they do exist and generally stay away from people. Generally the ones we catch are under 2ft. Most often juvenilles. It is rare to actually encounter and adult. Last King Brown I saw over 8 ft was in Feb at around 2100 pm and was minimum 8ft and I know this because I parked the Nissan utealongside it to gauge its length. The reason most people dont see them is generally King Browns are nocturnal and depending on time of year can be diurnal.
Also come down to the South of WA 6ft plus Tigers are very common.
If Australia Zoo reckon they dont exist then they need to get out our way a bit more and consult some snake experts that have confirmed evidence of snakes this big.
If you want to call me a liar fine, but on most occassions I have had other witnesses.
Olive Pythons are known to get over 6.5m.
Australia Zoo by the sound of it actually know very little, Maybe consult a couple of experts like Steve Wilson or Gerry Swan who are experts in the field. I can name a few more that can verify snakes this size.
If you want to confirm sizes contact your state museum reptile experts.

[CraigE]

CraigE,
Is an Olive Python the same as an Amethystine Python?

Twice up this way (once in Lakefield and once on my neighbours driveway) I have stopped for massive pythons that were 4-6m long crossing the road, I was under the impression they were Amethystine Pythons.

Steve

Steve,
No its not an Olive Python, They are a bit different, The Amethystine Python (Morelia amethistina) is more like the Anaconda. Has been recorded up to 8.5m long.
http://wildlife-australia.com/amethystine.htm
http://rainforest-australia.com/Amethystine_Python.htm
Olive Python (http://www.pilbarapythons.com/olivepython.htm)
The Olive Python is my favourite, they are so friendly and have real personality.

[ADMIRAL]

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[John W]

I do live in Alstonville and confirm that this does look very much like the pretend one on the side of the road, as said on the Uralba, Duck creek road. The guy who owns the house on the corner where it is put it there for a little fun. If you visit ; look out for the Tassi Tiger slinking off into the cain field too. Does not catch your eye quite like the snake but but when you wake up what it is you get quite a buzz, at least the first time anyway. The snake is sort of generic snake so would not bother trying to classify it.

[Barefoot Dave]

This seems to confirm the location.
Dave.

[ramblingboy42]

HI Craig, no need to fire up, I called no one a liar. We agree on amethystine python length recorded at 8.5m . My info on Tiger is 2m. max recorded length. taipan3.35m. King Brown 2.82m and an exceptional common brown at 2.3m These are maximum recorded size and are no where near normal sizes. Mans greatest fears are fire, snakes, spiders and when seen in a panic situation their sizes grow exponentially. Hence the whoppa stoppa.

[RufRangie]

Given the fact that most fence posts are 8' apart, that big fella would be pushing 16', rather an abnormal size for a Mulga in anyones books?? I go along with the wood and wire scenario, lol.....:D

Cheers........................Pete!

[CraigE]

HI Craig, no need to fire up, I called no one a liar. We agree on amethystine python length recorded at 8.5m . My info on Tiger is 2m. max recorded length. taipan3.35m. King Brown 2.82m and an exceptional common brown at 2.3m These are maximum recorded size and are no where near normal sizes. Mans greatest fears are fire, snakes, spiders and when seen in a panic situation their sizes grow exponentially. Hence the whoppa stoppa.
Thats all fine, not fired up and all is good, I was teasing a bit too:D but you have pretty much contradicted your original statement, which I undertook you to be saying 8/9ft snakes, but I may be wrong, with those figures Tiger 2m=nearly 7ft, but I have seen many over that size in both SA on the Murray and SW WA. The problem with Tigers is there are so many types around OZ. One was around 10ft being conservative and that was witnessed by at least 20 people at Munglinup Beach WA, King Brown the main snake that was quoted 2.82m = over 9ft and I know of 1 confirmed at just over 3m, Common brown 2.3m = 7 1/2ft, Taipan 3.35m = 11ft, so none of what has been said is exactly exaggerating 7-9ft for common snakes is likely. A lot bigger for some pythons up to 25ft.
I absolutely agree these are not the size snakes people often see, but that does not mean they are not common, as I have said adults tend to stay away from people, juveniles that have no fear so are seen more often. Most of the ones we pick up are less than 2ft, the bigger ones take off fairly quick and go into hiding.
Those of us that spend a fair bit of time outdoors at night and near food and water supplies tend to see a lot more. Mine site often have mice problems so attract snakes. The majority of snakes are mostly nocturnal.
However we actually had to escort a King Brown across a road a couple of months back, he got to the road and got a bit disorientated so fast attack red and blues on parked across road and gave him time standing behind him to get across the road, showed no aggression at all and still showing juvenile markings at around 5ft.:eek:
We had to kill a Western Brown in Kambalda some years ago as it was in the house and showing agression, though obviously looking for water. Measured dead was 2.15m so around 7ft, the other snake with it was at least 1ft longer that went on its own way.:o
Yes obviously the pic in question is a fake.
The problem is often documenting big snakes as most often you dont have a camera and even then scale is an issue.
I generally dont exagerate as snakes do not bother me, rather I have a bit of a fascination with them, though avoid poisonous ones where I can.
All good this end but snakes up to 10ft are not myth.:):):):)