Short top

[series1buff]

Hi

I found this pic of the "short" top in a old UK club newsletter . The rear flap somehow folds up ??

Mike

[260AC]

Yes it does or it is removable.

The back of this style of truck cab is the same as an early 1948/48 hood with the removable section in the middle

[series1buff]

Yes it does or it is removable.

The back of this style of truck cab is the same as an early 1948/48 hood with the removable section in the middle

Roger that Mike.

Apparently, the rear flap slides up on those 3 tab things each side and is secured by straps somehow. The drivers handbook tries to explain it, but I just cannot follow it , it's too complicated for words.

[wrinklearthur]

Hi

I found this pic of the "short" top in a old UK club newsletter . The rear flap somehow folds up ??

Mike
Hi Mike
That is a really early example of the 80" , check out the canvas tie down hoops on the side of the tub.
I'll have a look in my spare parts manual and see if there is any more info I can give you about that short top.

Cheers Arthur

[series1buff]

Hi Mike
That is a really early example of the 80" , check out the canvas tie down hoops on the side of the tub.
I'll have a look in my spare parts manual and see if there is any more info I can give you about that short top.

Cheers Arthur

Hi Arthur

Yes I think they said it's a pre-pro car . Observant of you to notice it . Look at the tailgate too , it looks different .

Mike

[wrinklearthur]

Hi Mike
That is a really early example of the 80" , check out the canvas tie down hoops on the side of the tub.
I'll have a look in my spare parts manual and see if there is any more info I can give you about that short top.

Cheers Arthur

Staple for hood strap, Qty 10, Part No 300924. Qty 2 off, from vehicles numbered 8666001 onwards.

Item 20, Rear Curtain Assembly For Hoods, Qty 1, Part No 301027, vehicles numbered 860001 to 8666000 .

No mention of this particular hood in my operation manual for Land Rover 1951-53 models (fifth edition. May 1952, Part No 3909 )

Cheers Arthur

[260AC]

Mike,

The canvas truck cab is part 301035 from Parts Manual TP111A December 1948. Its only listed in the very early parts books.

Here it is on good old MX

yfrog Photo : http://yfrog.com/h0kfv8j Shared by 260AC (http://yfrog.com/h0kfv8j)

[wrinklearthur]

Mike,

The canvas truck cab is part 301035 from Parts Manual TP111A December 1948. Its only listed in the very early parts books.

Here it is on good old MX

yfrog Photo : http://yfrog.com/h0kfv8j Shared by 260AC (http://yfrog.com/h0kfv8j)

I couldn't help myself, this photo now resides with the others, I have collected, in my 80" photo's folder . :angel:
Thanks for that. :thumbsup:

On the point of the cab part number there are two numbers listed in my parts manual, the other being for Hood Complete Assembly, Driver's, Qty 1, Part number 304198. I assume this is for the canvas top complete with the hood stick and fittings.

Cheers Arthur

[digger]

These look excellent.
I'd love to have the blueprint (?right word?) for one so I could knock one up!...(wonder what they'd cost now)

I know this is off topic a bit,

but when did they start producing the 80" hard top unit...

I was led to believe it was early 50's and then retrofitted?

cheers
digger

[260AC]

I couldn't help myself, this photo now resides with the others, I have collected, in my 80" photo's folder . :angel:
Thanks for that. :thumbsup:



No worries. Your welcome.



On the point of the cab part number there are two numbers listed in my parts manual, the other being for Hood Complete Assembly, Driver's, Qty 1, Part number 304198. I assume this is for the canvas top complete with the hood stick and fittings.



Ah ha,

Interesting part number. 304198 is actually the Canvas Truck Cab for curved hood bow or Drivers Hood.

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg619/scaled.php'tn=0&server=619&filename=nxp0.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

You have touched on an interesting area of research. But to give you a clue as to the age of this part, if you look in the 86" parts book there are many bodywork parts starting with 304.

Hence why 301035 is the earlier 3 seater canvas.

There is a heap more to the way the parts systems work, but internally at LR 304198 is listed as 3 seater hood complete with rear curtain.

[260AC]

These look excellent.

but when did they start producing the 80" hard top unit...

I was led to believe it was early 50's and then retrofitted?



Yes thats basically right. However they did have a early type hard top that is slightly different to the production version in 1949.

Its known as a Pre Pro Hard top. Quite a few were fitted to the batches of early Derbyshire 80" Fire Engines.

The Radfords 80" FE has one on it if you visit the S1 Club forum. The most noticeable difference is the front capping is completely different as are the roof ribs

[series1buff]

Pic of a 51 model with short top , South. Aust. circa 1974 . The kid driving it owns it today.

Mike

[wrinklearthur]

Hi

I found this pic of the "short" top in a old UK club newsletter . The rear flap somehow folds up ??

Mike
Hi Mike

Somewhere I have seen a picture of a short top with the rear curtain folded up in a early farm tractor book that I have read.

The Land rover was towing a implement such as a side delivery hay rake or a buck rake .

Curse the toxic side effects of candle wax as it also diminishes memory !

I will have a look through some of my farm books to see if I can find it.

Cheers Arthur

[Lotz-A-Landies]

These look excellent.
I'd love to have the blueprint (?right word?) for one so I could knock one up!...(wonder what they'd cost now)
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cheers
diggerDigger

Just a word, in my experience the early canvas hoods don't seal as well as the later type with the wrap around rear flap that tucked into the pockets at the side.

The early type puckers along the strap between each loop where the later type is drawn tight against the hood bow (stick) making a relatively tight seal.

Diana

[wrinklearthur]

Hi All

A couple of pic;s showing the short canvas top and one of the early rear curtain , kindly supplied by Joe ( owner of the KL Bulldog ), from one of the books on Land Rover written by James Taylor.

Cheers Arthur

[series1buff]

Thanks both

I did the same thing ..scanned those pics from the Taylor book... great minds think alike .. The book also shows detailed pics of the strapping setup. A chap on the UK forum helped me out with more info too. NOW , I have enough info to go ahead with sewing one up...

Just have to buy in 3 metres of ripstop canvas . No eyelets needed .

:):)

[digger]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/06/851.jpg

any help?