D4 Keyless entry self locking doors

[CraigH]

My parents have just picked a new Disco 4 hse last Wednesday and love it. The vehicle is optioned with key-less entry.

Yesterday while shopping they parked the vehicle and exited it and locked it. On return Dad only unlocked the vehicle and loaded their shopping in to it. My Dad took a seat in the vehicle and closed the door, whilst waiting for my Mum to return still shopping. While my Dad was sitting in the vehicle it locked itself bearing in mind they both each had their key-less remote with themselves.

Is this normal? bearing in mind you could leave the key-less remote in the vehicle and it would theoretically lock the keys in the car.

I know there is probably a simple reason for it. Overall they love it and will be towing their caravan with it. The vehicle has so many features for them to learn. I was hopeful some one may have a simple explanation.

Cheers
Craig

[RangieBit]

Hey there Craig,

This is not an unusual occurrence and also yet another reason I don't like some keyless systems.

Don't know how long your dad was in the car waiting but typically after about three minutes of no other activity i.e. no engine start or maybe even accessory usage, the system will re-lock the doors.

This is a security feature. The system guesses (incorrectly) that you opened a door accidentally and since you haven't driven away yet it better lock up again before someone pilfers something.

I always figured it can't be too hard to use the SRS seat sensor to figure there's actually someone in the vehicle in this circumstance but, hey, what would I know :angel:

Anyway what harm can there be if they lock someone in, that person just reaches for the door handle and opens up the door again.

Your concern about locking a remote in the car has merit. Although the most common way to do this is to leave with the remote/key in the ignition and most systems warn you about that when you open a door.

Anyway, this is all just theory on my part but given that most remote locking systems tend to work this way I figure it's a reasonable guess.

Cheers,
Iain

[101RRS]

Anyway what harm can there be if they lock someone in, that person just reaches for the door handle and opens up the door again.

Cheers,
Iain

If it is anything like my RRS it will superlock so the doors etc cannot be opened from the inside - needs the remote to unlock.

Garry

[RR P38]

Funnily enough last night i was out with my son and a D4 pulled up next to us.
Two proud owners got out, we watched as it folded the side mirrors and locked the doors and turned the head lights off.
I just thought to my self these systems are great when running but if they go wrong??

But yes i would say that what the D4 did in this instance was what it should have done. I guess it just thought the door had been opened and then shut then locked the D4 up again.

[RangieBit]

Hi again,

Given that the RRS and D3/D4 share a significant amount of DNA it just may be the case that it really does superlock again. I hope not for the sake of the innocent occupants. I could be wrong about this and am happy to defer to those of superior knowledge.

Again this might be one of those BeCM options that can be set or not (like single entry point - two stage unlock). Might be worth chatting to your friendly neighbourhood mechanic, or anyone else with a system capable of re-programming the BeCM functions, to see what is or can be enabled/disabled.

For me one of the first things was getting rid of that stupid key warning on my L322 FFRR. Dammit, I know I've put the key into the ignition but not turned it yet, I don't need my car rousing on me with an annoying beep/message to let me know that it knows :angel:.

On the other hand I have to say that "Follow Me Home" function on the headlights is kinda nifty. Especially when you're trying to find the keys to the door after you have arrived home.

Yep, just another thing to potentially go wrong but then what would we do with ourselves if things didn't act up occasionally?

Happy (Land) Rovering All
Iain

[Narangga]

I thought you would be able to turn that function off. You can on a base model Hilux.

[Jon79f]

I have a 2011 RRS with Smart Key.

Once you open a door (or the rear hatch/tailgate) my car wont re lock.

It will only re-lock if the car is unlocked for some reason and no doors etc are opened.

Not sure if this means you have a problem or if the systems are slightly different.

I will test tonight to double check but am sure thats the case.

[101RRS]

I have a 2011 RRS with Smart Key.

Once you open a door (or the rear hatch/tailgate) my car wont re lock.

It will only re-lock if the car is unlocked for some reason and no doors etc are opened.

Not sure if this means you have a problem or if the systems are slightly different.

I will test tonight to double check but am sure thats the case.

That is how my 07 RRS works. Unlock the car and don't open any doors and it relocks itself in a couple of minutes. Open a door and it stays unlocked.

There is something that can be switched on that locks all the doors when the car is running to prevent car hyjacking but I believe that is not a default - certainly mine doesn't.

Garry

[Jon79f]

There is something that can be switched on that locks all the doors when the car is running to prevent car hyjacking but I believe that is not a default - certainly mine doesn't.


I think it is auto lock - in the 2011 it can be set in the driver control menus, along with 2 stage unlock for the doors. When set it will lock the car once speed reaches 10km/h, and unlock when the car is switched off.

[CraigH]

Thanks all, it looks like we have worked it out.

As long as you have the remote key with you as soon as you grab the door handle it will unlock, even if the doors have re-locked themselves.

It seems that the doors will default to whatever the last position was selected after the motor/ ignition was switched off.

If some activity had taken place e.g switched the accessories, radio or engine on the doors would of remained open.

As long as you have that remote with you there is no problem.

Thanks again all

Craig