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muddymech
9th June 2011, 04:24 PM
Got sent this today, ealry report for the Air France A330 investigation, it looks alittle like it may create more questions than answers. Be interesting to see the final out come.
ian




Painful Lessons
AF447 crash investigation points to inadequacy of pilot training
Aviation Week & Space Technology 06/06/2011
Authors: Jens Flottau and Robert Wall


The focus of the investigation into why Air France Flight 447 crashed into the Atlantic a year ago is starting to change now that safety experts have begun evaluating information from the Airbus A330-200's flight recorders.

Questions surrounding human factors are moving into the spotlight as the investigation further unfolds, with concerns of turbulent weather and pitot-tube icing shifting into the background.

French accident investigation agency BEA released a three-page memo May 27 containing factual information excerpts that is likely to be followed by a more in-depth interim report within the next few weeks, possibly by the end of this month. The final report is not expected until 2012; it should also address concerns raised by some about technical problems with the A330.

Initial analysis of the flight data and cockpit voice recorders is revealing more about what caused AF447 to crash on June 1, 2009: The aircraft stalled at 38,000 ft. and was never recovered. The sequence of events suggests that proper stall recovery procedures could have prevented the accident.

Inflight loss-of-control accidents were the most frequent cause of fatal airliner crashes and by far the deadliest in 2000-09. Of the 89 fatal accidents recorded in the period, 20 were attributed to inflight loss of control; 16 were caused by controlled flight into terrain.

Recent crashes linked to stalls include that of the Colgan Air Bombardier Q400 on approach to Buffalo, N.Y. (2009); Turkish Airlines Boeing 737-800 in short final for Amsterdam (2009); West Caribbean Airways MD-82 in Venezuela (2005); Thomsonfly Boeing 737-300 near Bournemouth, England (2007); and XL Airways Germany Airbus A320 off the coast of Perpignan, France (2009).

"Most approach-to-stall incidents and accidents occur with sufficient altitude available for the recovery," Boeing Senior Safety Pilot Mike Coker told delegates at the Flight Safety Foundation's European Aviation Safety Seminar in Istanbul this year. "Incidents progress to accidents when the crew fails to make a positive recovery after the stall warning occurs."

Flawed training is partly to blame, he asserts. Approach-to-stall training is typically conducted at simulated altitudes of 5,000-10,000 ft., but many stalls actually happen much higher. In the case of AF447, stalls occurred at 35,000 ft. and 38, 000 ft., respectively. That has important, negative implications, Coker concludes.

"Recovery stresses an increase to maximum thrust and recovery with minimal altitude loss," he says. Therefore, "students try to minimize the nose-down pitch change while engines spool up."

To make matters worse, engine margins at high altitude are much smaller than at lower flight levels, where pilots can count on a much greater response to power increases. Also, Coker says, "it is probable when pilots remain on a particular model for extended periods of time that their exposure to approach-to-stall indications and recovery occur as infrequently as once in a decade," when stall exercises should really be part of recurring training. He stresses that training should focus on correct procedures, reducing the angle of attack and appropriate energy awareness, and not so much on minimizing altitude loss.

Airbus and Boeing have worked together to devise new procedures for stall recovery that emphasize angle of attack rather than preserving altitude.

As far as AF447 crew coordination is concerned, there are at least two indications that there may have been problems. The pilot non-flying (PNF), a 37-year-old with 6,547 total hours and 4,479 hr. on type, tried several times to call back the captain, who was on an agreed break; at the time, the pilot flying (PF), the 32-year-old junior copilot with 2,936 flying hours and 807 hr. on type, continued to pull back his side-stick at Flight Level 380 with thrust set to takeoff/go around, the angle of attack increasing further and speed decreasing. The two pilots also made simultaneous control inputs (pitch up) at around 20,000 ft. and an estimated sink rate of more than 10,000 ft. per minute.

Air France's training and crew coordination standards will therefore likely be another target for recommendations; the airline already has undertaken an outside audit, conducted by Delta Air Lines representatives, of its safety procedures. In spite of the new evidence, the airline states that "the crew, made up of three skilled pilots, demonstrated a totally professional attitude and were committed to carrying out their task to the very end."

The sequence of events in the crash that killed all 228 people onboard the flight from Rio de Janeiro to Paris can be segmented into two distinct phases. In the first phase, the pilots were dealing with the failure of speed readings that are almost certain to be linked to iced-over pitot tubes. The second phase began when speed indications returned to normal and the aircraft was at the edge of its flight envelope but under control and not stalled. Phase two also coincided with the captain's return to the cockpit from an agreed-upon rest.

The initial chain of events was kicked off by erroneous speed readings at 2:10:05 (UTC), when both the primary flight display and integrated standby instrument system (ISIS) showed a sharp fall from 275 kt. to just 60 kt. The autopilot and auto-thrust disengaged and the flight management system switched to alternate law. The aircraft rolled to the right and the PF reacted by making a nose-up and left input. The stall warning sounded twice.

The nose-up inputs led the aircraft to climb fast, at a rate of up to 7,000 ft. per minute, but it almost leveled off at a slight climb of around 700 ft. per minute and Flight Level FL375. At 4 deg., the angle of attack was only slightly higher than in cruise flight (3 deg.). The return to normal of the primary speed indication after 40 sec., and after close to 1 min. on the ISIS, indicates the pitot tubes started to transmit valid data again and the icing issue appeared to have subsided.

At this stage, the event could have been over, with the aircraft still in alternate law and manual control but stabilized. There appears to be no technical, aerodynamic or meteorological reason that would have kept it from returning to its previously assigned altitude (FL350) by simply applying nose-down stick-forward control inputs.

But then things went terribly wrong. At 2:10:50, the PF continued to provide nose-up inputs, causing the trimmable horizontal stabilizer to go to 13 deg. nose-up from 3 deg. nose-up. The airspeed began decreasing, to 185 kt., and the angle of attack reached 16 deg.

Gerhard Huettig, a professor of aeronautics at the Berlin Technical University, says the change in the horizontal stabilizer position was due to a software malfunction that could have been neither recognized nor corrected by the pilots and was a key factor as to why they were unable to fly out of the subsequent stall. He consequently asserts that the entire A330 fleet should be grounded until the software is corrected. However, industry officials point out that the automatic trim only became active after the crew pulled back on the stick and that it worked as expected.

In this phase, the captain re-entered the cockpit. What role he played subsequently is not clear yet, because the full cockpit voice recorder content has not been published. According to one report, he immediately told his two copilots that they were in a stall and therefore should put the aircraft's nose down and reduce thrust. Others doubt that because there was hardly any nose-down control input in the remaining 3 min. of flight and from 38,000 ft. to sea level.

In fact, forward speed declined so much that even stall warnings stopped, in spite of the fact that the aircraft remained in a stalled situation for the remainder of its flight. That only happens when measured speeds are below 60 kt. and angle-of-attack values are considered invalid. When speed drops below 30 kt., that is also registered by the flight management system as invalid-and that is what seems to have occurred 30 sec. later, as the PF stated, "I don't have any more indications" and the PNF replied, "We have no valid indications." That second instrument failure is thus most likely due to the slow speed and not linked to pitot-tube icing.

Around 2.5 min. before impact, there was one short period in which the PF did the right thing by pushing the side-stick forward. The angle of attack decreased and speeds became valid again, with the stall warning returning and indicating an acceleration in horizontal speed. The stall warning may have caused the PF to pull back on the stick again, repeating his previous pattern; it was not corrected by either the PNF or the captain. "[The pilots] never made the inputs necessary to recover," says one official close to the investigation.

"We will learn a lot from this accident," says William R. Voss, president and CEO of the Flight Safety Foundation, who believes that AF447 should have fundamental consequences for the content of pilot training globally. "We are still training [for] the engine fire at V1, but the complexity of automated systems has grown. We have to develop crews that can deal with incidents such as QF32," the Qantas Airbus A380 that suffered an uncontained engine failure after takeoff in Singapore on Nov. 4, 2010, and returned to the airport severely damaged.

Voss argues that AF447 would not have crashed if the aircraft had been of an older generation. "Highly automated aircraft have saved many lives, but they fail differently than aircraft of 20 years ago," he says. He sees it as a "failure of the industry" that pilot training has not kept in step with the latest aircraft technologies. He also argues for improved upset recovery training, as "we are not explicitly training that" and the AF447 A330 "seems to have had pitch-and-roll authority all the way down to the water."

The focus on the pilots is not likely to have an immediate impact on the legal landscape. Steve Marks, an attorney with Miami-based Podhurst Orseck, who represents 41 families of AF447 victims, notes that investigative reports like this "tend to focus on pilot conduct," adding that "in this case, there is no doubt the pilot confusion is linked directly to the failure of the pitot tubes." Marks is bringing a case against the companies involved in the A330 navigation system. On June 3, a San Francisco judge was due to hear arguments on whether the case could be brought in the U.S., or if the liability claims must be made in French court. If it is the latter, plaintiffs would have to wait until the judicial inquiry in France is complete, which, as in the case of the Concorde crash, could take years.

The BEA report plays down two other issues that have been in the spotlight. One is speculation that the aircraft entered a severe storm; the BEA document suggests it was merely turbulence that is standard for that region. During a crew briefing 2 hr. into the flight, in which all three pilots participated, the PF said that "the little bit of turbulence that you just saw, . . . we should find the same ahead . . . . We're in the cloud layer. Unfortunately, we can't climb much for the moment because the temperature is falling more slowly than forecast." And 11 min. later, the PF told the captain that "in two minutes, we should enter an area where it'll move about a bit more than at the moment. You should watch out," adding that "I'll call you as soon as we're out of it." The PNF proposed 2 min. later that "you can maybe go a little to the left" and the aircraft turned left 12 deg. None of the actions suggest anything out of the ordinary.

The second speculation surrounded pitot-tube icing. Although the pitot probes appear to have iced over, the speed discrepancy between the primary flight display and ISIS lasted around 45 sec., not atypical for the phenomenon.

There remain some long-term questions related to the AF447 accident. Would better aural cues help focus pilot attention on recovering from a stall? One industry official doubts replacing the "stall" alert with a more specific instruction, such as "push stick," would make much of a difference. And should research be funded toward devising a better backup mechanism to pitot tubes or finding another way to determine true air space that is less susceptible to outside environmental factors? "It would be interesting to have another technology," the industry official says.

AF447's Final Minutes (May 31/June 1, 2009)

Time*
2:01:46 FL350
Mach 0.82
Pitch about 2.5 deg.

2:10:05 Autopilot, autothrust disengage
Pilot makes left nose-up input
Stall warning
Recorded speed drops from 275 kt. to 60 kt. (in primary flight display (PFD) and integrated standby instrument system)

2:10:16 Pitch attitude exceeds 10 deg.
Pilot makes nose-down control inputs
Vertical speed falls to 700 ft./min. from 7,000 ft./min.
Speed displayed on PDF increases to 215 kt.
FL375
Recorded angle of attack: 4 deg.

2:10:51 Stall warning
Thrust levers at takeoff/go-around
Pilot maintains nose-up input
Recorded angle of attack increases beyond 6 deg.
Trimmable horizontal stabilizer passes from 3 to 13 deg. nose-up

2:11:16 Speed on integrated standby instrument system increases to 185 kt.
Pilot continues nose-up inputs
FL380 reached
Pitch attitude and angle of attack: 16 deg.

2:11:40 Captain re-enters cockpit
FL350
Angle of attack exceeds 40 deg.
Vertical speed: descending 10,000 ft./min.
Engines' N1 shaft speed near 100%
Pilot makes nose-up inputs

2:12:02 Thrust levers at idle
Engines' N1 at 55%

2:12:17 Pilot makes nose-down inputs
Angle of attack decreased
Speed indications become valid

2:13:32 Angle of attack remains above 35 deg.

2:14:28 Vertical speed: descending 10,912 ft./min.
Ground speed: 107 kt.
Pitch attitude: 16.2 deg. nose-up
Roll angle: 5.3 deg. left

*all times UTC (June 1, 2009)
Source: BEA

dhc4ever
11th June 2011, 11:19 AM
As with any accident, they will find a trail of minor cockups, proceedural errors, training shortfalls, and system/software errors, and enviromental effects any of which had they not occured would not have ended in the big splash.
The airbus is flown by computer which allows humans to have an input, up to whatever limit the computer soft ware will allow.
As previous "incidents" with the A330 have shown hamstringing the computer by icing in the pitot probes which supply such things as altitude, angle of attack, airspeed causes many problems.
The final definative report will make interesting reading.

muddymech
14th June 2011, 06:49 AM
good old human factors at play.
whats a shame is the pitot tubes could have been replaced but AF was in disagrement with airbus who should pay for the revised tubes.
AoA is done from a separte system, basically a small wing connected to a potentiometer usually posistioned close to the pitot tubes and static inlets.
Helps keep the rsvm critical area bit smaller.

solmanic
16th June 2011, 01:31 PM
I would love the opportunity flying on instruments in a simulator to experience this without warning and see if I react differently. Up becomes down and vice versa very quickly when you can't see. My training is just screaming WTF didn't they continue to push the control column forward when the stall warning reactivated as the speed increased?

stallie
16th June 2011, 09:30 PM
At a guess... They where in a state they didn't understand. Then he applied nose down stick and got sudden (very loud) warnings so he reversed his actions back to the state with no warnings.

I would expect that if the warnings were continuous at the very slow speed state, he might have kept the nose coming down until the stall warning stopped.

muddymech
20th June 2011, 07:56 PM
would be interesting to see how other pilots reacted in similar circumstances in a simulator.
one thing im not sure about is if gps was fitted weather they could have reverted to that for the few seconds the main gauges went down.

p38arover
13th May 2013, 09:44 PM
Last Sunday, 60 Minutes had a report on the incident.

I don't know when the programme will be on-line: Flight 447 (http://sixtyminutes.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8656599)

Stallie would have more knowledge than the rest of us but it appears that with the side stick, the other pilot doesn't get any feedback re stick movement unlike what would happen with the old control yokes. In other words, the other pilot has no idea if the pilot flying the plane has pulled back on the stick or is flying straight and level.

In this case, it appears the pilot flying the aircraft had pulled back on the stick when the autopilot disconnected, perhaps not realising it.

My flying experience is limited to flying Blanik gliders in the 70s and flying model aircraft so it's easy for me to say push the stick forward if you're in a stall. But I wasn't in the cockpit.

stallie
17th May 2013, 11:38 PM
True, the other pilot gets no feedback on what the flying pilot is doing. That's why you have cockpit discipline to ensure that only one person is doing it at the time. And if two do it simultaneously, you get a warning. Also, both pilots have priority buttons to override the other pilot's controls.

Didn't see the 60 mins report so can't comment on it. What I can say is that there are a lot of people out there that love to hate Airbus. Listen to any airbus criticism with that in mind.....

And the detailed report available here (http://www.bea.aero/docspa/2009/f-cp090601.en/pdf/f-cp090601.en.pdf) does point to some rather alarming lack of basic aeronautics 101. Interestingly, i was told that two of the major worlds airlines have now implemented additional simulator training on high altitude handling.

Blknight.aus
18th May 2013, 06:30 AM
All I know about flying I learnt in simulators.....

Some of them being right place right time in the big expensive ones.

Isnt the proper procedure for stall at high altitude head down bum up and power out

muddymech
18th May 2013, 10:06 PM
i think so, but in this case i think they had lost there reference to aircraft attitude

p38arover
19th May 2013, 06:26 AM
Ian, do pitot tubes have heaters to remove ice? I would expect that they do.

I haven't read the whole report yet but I note this:


1) Pitot probe obstruction
Review of the in-service data available after the accident, which prompted increased
reporting from operators, including events that occurred before and after June 2009,
prompted issuance of AD 2009-0195 as a precautionary measure. It prohibits Thales
C16195AA probes from being installed on Airbus A330/340 aircraft, and allows only
one Thales C16195BA probe in the 3 Pitot positions. The maintenance interval for
Pitot cleaning was reduced. In parallel, EASA monitored Airbus test activity, in various
icing facilities and in flight tests, in order to gather data on Pitot probe behaviour in
ice crystal environments. In addition to the Airbus programmes, a Special Condition is
being raised on all new projects, imposing the latest specification material available
for Pitot probes.

What is the reason for this?

vnx205
19th May 2013, 06:51 AM
My flying experience is limited to flying Blanik gliders in the 70s and flying model aircraft.


Me too. I flew a Blanik at Narrabri or more accurately, on a property at Edgeroi in the early 70's.

p38arover
19th May 2013, 07:31 AM
Me too. I flew a Blanik at Narrabri or more accurately, on a property at Edgeroi in the early 70's.

In 1968-69, I used to go down from Moree (I was working as a tech at the satellite earth station) to a place between Moree and Narrabri to watch the gliders. One of my colleagues was learning then. It might have been Edgeroi although that's not the name that comes to mind.

I worked here:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/05/465.jpg

vnx205
19th May 2013, 08:10 AM
In 1968-69, I used to go down from Moree (I was working as a tech at the satellite earth station) to a place between Moree and Narrabri to watch the gliders. One of my colleagues was learning then. It might have been Edgeroi although that's not the name that comes to mind.

It would have to be the same place. It was on a property called "Plain Acres" (or Plainacres) on the eastern side of the highway.

It was a soldier settler block owned by Lyn Garden, whose son married my wife's sister.

Did they still have the open cockpit T31 glider when you were there?

EDIT: The T31 would have been there in 1969, so the question is, did you see it in action? Its performance was so poor that when it was released at about 1000 feet, it had to head straight back to the other end of the strip to get there before it lost too much height.

p38arover
19th May 2013, 09:52 AM
Yes, my colleague was learning in the T31.

The strip was on the eastern side of the highway. We knew the location as Bellata.

vnx205
19th May 2013, 12:33 PM
You are quite right. It was officially Bellata. Edgeroi is about 22km further south.

The property changed hands decades ago and the club is no longer there. I believe I can see a very faint line on Google maps that is probably where the strip used to be.

superquag
20th May 2013, 11:04 PM
i think so, but in this case i think they had lost there reference to aircraft attitude

... So there was no chance of 'flying the artificial horizon' ?

I would have thought this would be one of the last instruments to fail... - Open to correction !

Devomorris
21st May 2013, 09:42 AM
... So there was no chance of 'flying the artificial horizon' ?

I would have thought this would be one of the last instruments to fail... - Open to correction !

The A/H 's, there are 3, didn't fail as these are not susceptible
To icing. Unfortunately, the junior FO panicked and pulled the side stick fully back where he held it for the entire "descent"! The captain, who was now standing in the flight deck, finally realised this going through about 10 000 ft? The problem was that the FO wasn't use to flying with reference to the AH, as normally there would have been flight directors to follow and the auto pilot normally follows after lift off and turned off just before landing.

He had also applied full thrust. On a low slung engined aircraft, the pitch moment, especially at low level, actually pushes the nose up increasing the stall.the latest teaching, is to reduce thrust first, drop the nose and when airspeed increases or "stall stall" stops then increase thrust and recover. A heavily stalled aircraft at high altitude can take a long time to recover.

BigBlackDog
21st May 2013, 07:23 PM
Ian, do pitot tubes have heaters to remove ice? I would expect that they do.

I haven't read the whole report yet but I note this:



What is the reason for this?

Hi Ron,

The reason on the restriction with these probes was they had some design issue where they would ice up. Pitot tubes are heated for IFR aircraft, and on jets they go on before takeoff and stay on. The airbus probes were icing up for some reason and caused a few near misses, there was a QANTAS airbus that dropped a few hundred feet over WA they put down to this.
Problem being the probe info goes into an an air data computer, along with all sorts of other info, temp, pressures etc, so when airspeed suddenly drops/disappears the computer has a 'moment'!

C00P
25th May 2013, 11:49 PM
This was another in a series of prangs where misleading information confused pilots not in touch with their aircraft. I think the new systems leave pilots out of the loop too much and there is so much focus on the technology they forget the basics. If attitude and power are right, the aerolplane will fly (the m anual says so) irrespective of what the other instrumen ts are saying. They need to get pilots back to the basics so they know what their aircraft is doing.

Coop
(1000 hrs gliding, 1000 hrs lighties, several flights without the benefit of an ASI)

stallie
26th May 2013, 12:02 PM
So whose fault is it for being out of touch? The pilots' or the aeroplane's?

This accident was caused by a pilot doing a completely inexplicable thing that violates the most basic fundamental flying physics. Why, when flying straight and level in cruise would you pull full back stick when you had some erroneous indications. Why?

The advance of automation in aircraft has lead to things being safer. I fly Airbus and a smaller rugged military turboprop (read basic, not automated) for a living. I love the stick and rudder stuff in the turboprop, but the next day marvel at and appreciate the level of automation in the Airbus, in particular its safety features.

I don't blame the Airbus. I love the machine and its ways. The first A320s were ahead of their time, in a world when the most advanced technology in the average house was a VCR.

Automation dependency is a danger (google "Children of the Magenta Line) but that can be eliminated. Instead of checking to the bare minimum, spend some extra time in the sim with all the automatics off. Or give each pilot a few hours a year in a little Cessna (without an autopilot!) to keep his or her hand in on the basics . (In fact four hours in a Cessna probably equals one hour in an Airbus sim in cost!)

The other issue here which the airlines don't want addressed is the fact that young kids can get into an airline flying jet after paying $150k for a 12 month course and they have little real world flying experience, like flying around on dark stormy nights with no radar or autopilot. They only know flying through the computers and autopilot. When it all goes wrong, they have no instincts to fall back upon.

Why don't the airlines want this addressed? Because lots of kids (and their parents) have "shiny jet syndrome" and will pay the money for the cadetship (airline makes money) then accept a wage for several years of around $60k. at that bargain price for employees, the airlines are happy to accept the risk of inexperienced pilots.

superquag
1st June 2013, 09:57 PM
A very 'down to earth' presentation.... - sorry, could'nt resist it :p