Which chassis sections are worth saving ?

[gromit]

I'm about to cut up a 1957 86" chassis and wondered which crossmembers are worth keeping. Anything I save might help someone in the future.
The chassis only has surface rust but some damage to the rear crossmember, a couple of outriggers and the front dumb irons.

I might try to straighten the rear crossmember and then cut it off. The gearbox crossmember is perfect so that can be cut out.
It there any other part that rusts out and should be saved to help a future restoration ?

Another interesting point is that it's a green chassis from a '57, my '56 also has a green chassis. Must be something to do with CKD's as I'm sure they both haven't been re-chassied.


Colin

[isuzurover]

If it is non-rusty why not offer it for free as a complete chassis first?

[series1buff]

colin

The most important crossmember to save is the forward one. Many of these cars had that crossmember chopped out for a Holden engine conversion . And to restore , means welding in a replacement .

Mike

[101RRS]

I would save any cross members, front sections on the chassis (dumb irons??) and any outriggers. I need a good bell housing X member :).

Garry

[gromit]

I've advertised the chassis on here a couple of times with absolutely no takers. I guess part of the problem is that you need to hire a trailer to collect it, also because I've been honest about the damage it may have put people off.

I've finally got round to taking the rear tub off and removed all the cappings and the steel supports underneath so it can go for scrap. The gearbox & transfer need to be lifted out and the front axle removed and it's ready to go

For a nominal sum someone can have it.
I can forward pictures of the damaged parts if anyone is interested.


Colin

[gromit]

It seems a shame but this chassis is getting chopped up if it doesn't go soon.
Someone has dibs on the gearbox crossmember if it gets chopped.

I'll advertise it in Markets again one last time.....


Colin

[numpty]

Colin, if it's a '57, isn't it an 88". Pity the dumb irons are damaged, as I could use a couple for my '57

[gromit]

Numpty,

According to the chassis plate it's a 1957 86" and just to add to the confusion it's a green chassis.

The front dumb irons aren't that bad. One is good the other has been bent at some point and then straightened so the side of the chassis rail and underneath are pushed in. Once cut off this could be fixed easily, if I was repairing the chassis I would weld some bolts to the chassis and use a slide hammer to get the dents out.
The bumper bolt holes are worn oval and also the spring hanger bolt holes have worn slightly oversize.

Considering the fact that this Landy sat in a farm field for about 15 years the chassis is remarkably rust free, it's just suffered a fair bit of mis-treatment by the farmer.....
The bulkhead was virtually rust free (I'm keeping that for a future project) the tub was a mess, that went for scrap this morning. It took a while to remove all the cappings & reinforcing underneath. The tub, tailgate & seat box (all past saving) returned $39.... hardly worth the effort but at least it's off the driveway to make room for the next project.

If you PM me your email address I can send photos of the dumb irons. If I get to the stage of cutting it up I'll get back in contact with you.


Colin

[numpty]

Interesting!

Unfortunately 86 and 88 dumb irons are different and they use a different bumper. But pm sent anyway.

[gromit]

This 86" chassis has to go.
It will be chopped up as soon as it stops raining in Melbourne.

Seems a shame but I cannot keep it any longer and nobody seems to want it.

I'll chop it into repair sections and throw the side rails away. Probably the week afterwards someone will offer me a series 1 for a bargain price that needs a chassis replacement......such is life.



Colin

[wrinklearthur]

Where's Moses when you need him? I would love to permanently store that chassis at my place, but that body of water called Bass Straight is still there.

Until the respective Governments start to give the more remote inhabitants of our great country a better deal, easing the financial burden of distance. So the carriage of goods, like this chassis, remains impractical where any distance is involved.

What a dilemma you have there Colin, my advice is find something that you need and offer the chassis as a barter item.

Has anyone got room on a flat bed truck that's coming over to Tassie?
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[gromit]

Where's Moses when you need him? I would love to permanently store that chassis at my place, but that body of water called Bass Straight is still there.

Until the respective Governments start to give the more remote inhabitants of our great country a better deal, easing the financial burden of distance. So the carriage of goods, like this chassis, remains impractical where any distance is involved.

What a dilemma you have there Colin, my advice is find something that you need and offer the chassis as a barter item.

Has anyone got room on a flat bed truck that's coming over to Tassie?
.

Arthur,

I've been trying to shift this for some time.
Surface rust only and a bit of straightening needed to the rear crossmember and front dumb irons plus a spring bracket needs welding back on (someone cut it off to release a spring).

I feel guilty but what do you do. I can cut it into sections and strap to a pallet but moving the whole chassis is a problem.

I have a galvanised Series 3 chassis that's been repaired and nobody seems to want it either, mind you I'm asking a bit more for that one.

I could probably keep it a bit longer but SWMBO isn't happy about the latest arrival http://www.aulro.com/afvb/other-powered-series-land-rovers/151959-isuzu-c240-powered-series-3-a.html

If I can get it off the driveway and hide it down the back amongst the trees it could stay a bit longer but am I just delaying the inevitable ?

Picture below shows 88" S3 chassis on top of 86" S1

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/08/602.jpg



Colin

[chazza]

Get someone big and strong to help and stash it behind the shed somewhere - cutting that up would be tragedy! Surely someone must be going to Tassie with a trailer behind them.

Incidentally; if anyone in WA wants an 86" chassis for free but needing some work, PM me,

Cheers Charlie

[turkeybrain]

The TT Line doesn't charge by height, so if somebody has a decent set of roof racks, you could put it up there and get it across the ferry for the price of a normal car. A trailer is quite expensive as it doesn't get a government rebate which the car would get.

If somebody can get the chassis to Devonport, I know a guy who lives there who is more than happy to store it for a few weeks until I can get up there to drag it back to Hobart for Arthur. I expect to be heading to that region with a trailer in a few weeks, I might as well have a load for the return trip!

Hopefully somebody is headed across to Tassie soon!

-Martin

[hodgo]

I have a late ser2a chassis ex military that I have started to cut up as the dum irons and rear end did not exist due to rust the rest is good If any one wants it or parts there off lI have started to cut the gearbox member out so it can be reused.
(I also have a selection of second hand long and short chassis not military as well as a new old stock Ser 3 military galvinised chassis never been used. These are not free)

Hodgo

[klonk]

Hi Colin

If you dont manage to shift the chassis, klonk could do with the cross member under the front of the tub behind the g/box. He is an 80'' but can PM you sizes to check if the time comes.

Cheers Steve

[wrinklearthur]

Just got home again, with a 2A Diesel motor in tow on the box trailer, it is missing the injector pump as it was beyond repair when it was sent to get checked!!!! So now I"m on the hunt for another 2A injector pump.
Picked that lot up at Bridgenorth, isn't it great when the GPS has maps that do show the way.

Colin, I will give you a ring at some sane hour of the day about relocating that chassis.

Hi Martin
You must be on a break from Uni at the moment, time to catch up. Most Wednesday mornings we have a old crocks meeting here at my place. Directions are easy, turn left just as you come into Brighton and then it's 4 klm's RHS, the jug will be on.

Hi Steve
A cross member for klonk could be got out of the 86" that needs the replacement chassis and another chap down here has chopped a very rusty 80" basket case, I'll tex him for you to see if he kept that cross member and if it is salvageable.

I will go now and post in the what did you do today on your landy thread.
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[turkeybrain]

Hi Arthur,

On the contrary, I'm in swot vac, ignoring all the study I know I should be doing! I have about a month off starting on the 19th. I'll try to come up after then. That's why it's a few weeks before I could collect the chassis from Devonport, but thankfully I've got no problems with storage up there. It's good to have mates who understand.

Let me know if you guys work something out and do need that storage in Devonport, I'll tee it up for you.

-Martin

[klonk]

Thanks Arthur,

That idea sounds good to me. Hope the 2a motor is worth the trip, I lived in Westbury for 16 years untill a certain Tassie company wrecked the timber industry then we moved to Albany for another timber company then the tassie co turned up here and ruined it here as well. Loved Tassie. Will PM you some info you will like

Cheers Steve

[klonk]

To Colin and Arthur

I was just wondering if there was any news about moving the chassis.

Arthur
I have sent you a PM and an email via this website but have had no reply, I know I can recieve PMs but havent really sent any to know of any problems.

Cheers Steve

[gromit]

Klonk,

Arthur is trying to arrange to get it to TAS along with a galvanised S3 chassis I'm selling.


Colin

[wrinklearthur]

To Colin and Arthur

I was just wondering if there was any news about moving the chassis.

Arthur
I have sent you a PM and an email via this website but have had no reply, I know I can recieve PMs but havent really sent any to know of any problems.

Cheers Steve

Hi Steve

I have sent you a couple of PMs', can you let me know when you receive them?
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[klonk]

Colin and Arthur.

Arthur, 2PMs recieved, 1 sent

Colin 1 PM sent.

Cheers Steve

[Landy Smurf]

i have a 1953 80inch chassis that is rooted in some places so i might be able to cut some crossmembers off. it is beyond repair for my liking

[wrinklearthur]

Colin and Arthur.
Arthur, 2PMs recieved, 1 sent
Colin 1 PM sent.
Cheers Steve

Hi Steve

Just had a yarn with Alex about the cross member he has already taken out and he wants to check the condition inside it before he gives it the thumbs up.

Cheers Arthur

[wrinklearthur]

i have a 1953 80inch chassis that is rooted in some places so i might be able to cut some crossmembers off. it is beyond repair for my liking

Hi Schmierer

Any chance of some photo's of the damaged areas before you write it off?
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[Landy Smurf]

i shall get them up soon

[klonk]

Have the possibility for transport across Bass straight for you Arthur, PMs sent also to Colin.

Cheers Steve

[wrinklearthur]

Have the possibility for transport across Bass straight for you Arthur, PMs sent also to Colin. Cheers Steve

Thanks Steve

Have sent a PM to you, Colin and Alex.
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[Landy Smurf]

here are 2 chassis i have that have rust i couldnt be bothered explaining every photo so ill let them do the talking for me.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/07/744.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/07/745.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/07/746.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/07/747.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/07/748.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/07/749.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/07/750.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/07/751.jpg

[Landy Smurf]

and the other one a few photos did not upload properly
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/07/737.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/07/738.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/07/739.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/07/740.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/07/741.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/07/742.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/07/743.jpg

[wrinklearthur]

Hi Schmierer

If those chassis were mine, I wouldn't feel to bad about scraping them after seeing their condition.
Their only value now in my opinion, would be as patterns to draw full size templates from, to make repair sections.

Thanks for doing the hard yards giving us the opportunity to view the chassis.
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[Landy Smurf]

the only good thing off them is a good rear crossmember a few outriggers and tow hitch/bar. the back half is good but yeah i am thinking i will cut the front halves off and scrap them and store the others, you never know who might need part of it

[klonk]

You blokes are fussy. These chassis look just like klonks.

[Defender Mike]

Its a bit early as i only finalised the deal today and havent picked her up yet. I will be needing a front cross member (holdenised) and dumb iorns or a complete 107 chassis and a bulkhead from a 107 or 86 to fit my new project 107 tray back. Now if I could find a rear tub to fit that would be great as well. Oh and a engine . I would prefer to source bits in WA to save travel but anything is possible.:)

Mike

[wrinklearthur]

Alex and myself were busy today as we picked up a S3 three door, its the first time I have seen a rear cross member that isn't rusty but has bent from towing a load. :o

Hi Steve

I had a chat yesterday with Dave Tilyard, he seems to think that our plan of getting the chassis's across by a logging contractors float is a bit remote, as most machines are walked onto the ferry.

I'll try Tas Freight service again tomorrow and then compare their price with the cost of taking a car trailer across and back on the 'Spirit'.

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[Landy Smurf]

so you are after a front crossmember that is holdenised but you are after a motor. so should i assume that you just want a holden one? just wonderiing thats all

[Defender Mike]

NO i am after a front cross member to replace the one cut to fit the holden motor I intend to return to original spec or close as.
Mike :)

[Landy Smurf]

okie dokie is the front cross member the same as a 80 inch?

[andy_d110]

Mike,

I have found an 86" that is out in Gingin. It's pretty far gone an would only be good for parts. From memory it was used to launch boats up at Lancelin do the rear chassis is bad but the front is good. It also has a complete un seized 2 litre with all bits and pieces. What's your email I can send you some photos.

Andy.

[Defender Mike]

Sending PM .:)

[Defender Mike]

okie dokie is the front cross member the same as a 80 inch?

Im no expert yet but i dont think so same as an 86 though.
Mike

[Defender Mike]

Mike,

I have found an 86" that is out in Gingin. It's pretty far gone an would only be good for parts. From memory it was used to launch boats up at Lancelin do the rear chassis is bad but the front is good. It also has a complete un seized 2 litre with all bits and pieces. What's your email I can send you some photos.

Andy.

Hi Andy

I had a look at the photos bulkhead may be ok and Im very interested in the engine and any other bits as well.
Mike :)

[gromit]

The Series I chassis has been saved, it's loaded on a trailer and ready for wrinklearthur to take back to Tassie at the weekend.
He has a few other bits on board and there's the trailer itself to explain but I'll let him do that when he's back on-line.

The wife will be happy now the chassis is going, but it won't last.


Colin