D4 3 litre it is

[discotwinturbo]

After all tha advice from this forum, and after the test drive I have decided on the 3 litre D4.

Green oval experience can import 18 inch rims to fit, plus Gordon also convinced me that even on the 19s I will go as far if not further then my 2 inch lifted Patrol.

I have gone with the bizenon lights, real locker, mud flaps, floor mats, and the 2012 model which has electric front seats with arm rests.

Starting price was about 96k on the road and it's has come down to 88k on the road. Land Rover seem pretty keen to move them.

I have started my list of goodies and will have ready for it's arrival in about 3 months.

This forum and it's members are the best I have come across.

Thanks for your help.

[juddo]

Congratulations on the choice. I'm sure you will not be disappointed. Waiting for 3months though! I'm not sure if I could.

Matt.

[chuck]

PrestigePerth

What model did you buy i.e SE or HSE
How did you find out about electric seats & arm rests?
Do you know of any other changes to the 2012 model.

Regards

Chuck

[Ferret]

Interesting post, I was also in at one of the Perth dealers today getting a test drive of D4.

From the price you mention, ~96k recommended retail price / 88k drive away, I assume you’re talking about the SE model. The current SE model, at least the one I was being shown, has manual front seats. There was no mention of what you say appears to be an interior equipment upgrade just around the corner during my conversation today.

I wonder if I'm being steered towards clearing existing stock? The drive away price being offered on existing stock for very similar specs - 3.0l, leather, rear locker plus Bi Xenon lights was only marginally less at 86k.

If it is a stock clearance pending a spec upgrade I don't necessarily mind provided it is priced accordingly but I would like full disclosure so I have an option to choose one or the other if I want it.

Can I ask what dealer you have dealt with?

[Dorko]

Electric seats and the arm rest is a great option. Wish that was on offer when i bought, my only gripe with the car!

My SE was $92k and for that I received the reverse camera, sat nav, side steps, mud flaps, rubber mats and came with 5 MTR's.

Enjoy the purchase :)

Dorko

[Disco4SE]

Dorko,
From what I hear, the arm rests are a pain as they squash you in too much.
The leci seats would be good though, especially when the 5ft nothing wife has been driving and it my turn to drive.
Cheers, Craig

[roamer]

Interesting post, I was also in at one of the Perth dealers today getting a test drive of D4.

From the price you mention, ~96k recommended retail price / 88k drive away, I assume you’re talking about the SE model. The current SE model, at least the one I was being shown, has manual front seats. There was no mention of what you say appears to be an interior equipment upgrade just around the corner during my conversation today.

I wonder if I'm being steered towards clearing existing stock? The drive away price being offered on existing stock for very similar specs - 3.0l, leather, rear locker plus Bi Xenon lights was only marginally less at 86k.

If it is a stock clearance pending a spec upgrade I don't necessarily mind provided it is priced accordingly but I would like full disclosure so I have an option to choose one or the other if I want it.

Can I ask what dealer you have dealt with?





Seems to be a few changes on MY 2012
LIke pop gear select (Jag), paddle shift, 8 speed box, 10 more kw(3lt), upgraded sound system, colour change,new wheels, nothing about seats though, heaps about it on UK site.
July order to get 2012 build, in the UK.


Cheers Ken

[TerryO]

Dorko,
From what I hear, the arm rests are a pain as they squash you in too much.
The leci seats would be good though, especially when the 5ft nothing wife has been driving and it my turn to drive.
Cheers, Craig


In all seriousness if you have ever driven a Disco of any model with electric seats and arm rests you would struggle to buy one without, they seriously improve the driving experience especially if your driving long distances. :D

As for squashing you in I'm guessing a salesman told you that bollocks.

At well over 300 lb I could not be described as being close to average in size and I can tell you that my arm rests do not squeeze me in. ;)

cheers,
Terry

[mowog]

8 speed auto more power.... Nice...

[DiscoWeb]

At well over 300 lb I could not be described as being close to average in size and I can tell you that my arm rests do not squeeze me in. ;)

cheers,
Terry

You must be really tall :angel:

[Celtoid]

Seems to be a few changes on MY 2012
LIke pop gear select (Jag), paddle shift, 8 speed box, 10 more kw(3lt), upgraded sound system, colour change,new wheels, nothing about seats though, heaps about it on UK site.
July order to get 2012 build, in the UK.


Cheers Ken

Sounds great....

That must be the ZF they were planning to fit or have fitted to the V8 RR oilers....right?

My wife's pug has arm rests......which are fantastic on the cruise.....they'd be brilliant in my D4.

[hydeslane]

I purchased an ex.demo 3.0ltr D4 about 3 months ago and while its the basic model, without some of the extras you'll enjoy, I just love this thing.
I moved from an 07 Pathfinder and stretched a little to make the purchase but the two vehicles are simply worlds apart. I work in constuction so the thing gets muddy but in contrast, I also took the family of 7 to a show last week in style and comfort. Fuel consumption around 9 and all the power I will ever need. Everything has a sense of quality even under the bonnet that leaves you wondering if the Brits really make them. Only time will tell if my enthusiasm wavers but so far so good. I hope you enjoy yours as much. :)

[VladTepes]

Congrats on the D4 purchase.

For others info a bloke I know bought a full fruit D4 HSE for $105K on road last year.

[TerryO]

You must be really tall :angel:


Yes DiscoWeb I am really tall ...that is compared to my wife who is 5 foot ;)

cheers,
Terry

[eddomak]

Dorko,
From what I hear, the arm rests are a pain as they squash you in too much.
The leci seats would be good though, especially when the 5ft nothing wife has been driving and it my turn to drive.
Cheers, Craig

I don't know if the electic seats have memory for different positions, but I like the manual adjuster as it's faster to get into the right position with a couple of quick cranks of the lever. I also don't like the knob-adjusters as it's too much effort to get the seat to lay back for a nice nap.

[Dorko]

Dorko,
From what I hear, the arm rests are a pain as they squash you in too much.
The leci seats would be good though, especially when the 5ft nothing wife has been driving and it my turn to drive.
Cheers, Craig

I would have thought they were the same as the Freelander 2? I had one of those before the Hail storm last year, and i loved the arm rest especially for long drives. I felt like a commander and chief! hahahaha

You are in the same boat as me Craig. Wife is a shorty and gives me the **** when she drives, she adjusts everything!

Dorko

[roamer]

I love the armrests :cool:
Elec seats have memory for everything including side mirrors, but not inside mirror.

Cheers Ken

[CaverD3]

MY2012 SE will have electric seats. But they the price is going up by $2.5K. :mad:

[Dorko]

ouch $2.5k.
I wonder what would be different in the HSE vs SE?


Dorko

[101RRS]

I have armrests in my car - I would not pay extra money to have them fitted. You cannot put your seat belt on with them down and they tend to be a bit low. I find the centre cubby box lid a much better armrest.

My seats are electric but no memory and find them quite good. It might be my imagination but I think they do move by themselves sometimes when the car is parked overnight - but you can get your seat into almost any position that suits.

Garry

[TerryO]

If the armrests are to low then just adjust them up, that is all I do.

Your correct though it is hard to put your seat belt on when they are down but it only takes 2 seconds to put them up or down so no biggy.

cheers,
Terry

[101RRS]

If the armrests are to low then just adjust them up, that is all I do.

cheers,
Terry

You cannot adjust the entire armrest - just the angle up or down. The pivot point where your elbow would be is too low - the cubby box is just right :).

Same as the door side - the arm rests are too low but the window sill is just right.

I guess it is a case of some people love them - others not so much.

Garry

[JamesH]

This is quite a depressing/encouraging post to read. I'm thinking about moving from the Defender to a D4. I desperately want a 3ltr but just Can't Afford It. I can barely scrape together (via debt) the coin to get a 2.7 with the $5000 (:mad::mad::mad:) real iPod connectivity that I enjoy in my Defender and a reversing camera (about $75k on road for MY12).

I don't tow and I drive like a bit of a Nanna so I would really be fine in a 2.7 and I'm trying to come to terms with that. They told me $92 for the same in 3ltr, I can't do that. Sure it has other extras as well but none I'm particularly rapt about. Now I'm seeing some lower quotes for the 3ltr and reading about the new 8 speed gearbox on the 3 and I'm throwing the toys out of my pram. :(

Can some please tell me the 2.7 is fine for me?

[Dorko]

2.7 is still a great car. No point going into too much debt over the power, just chip it ;)

you should be able to pick up a D4 2.7L for some fruit for $80k and if you want base model then I'm think low $75k

Dorko

[ADMIRAL]

Moving from a Defender, I would expect that either motor will seem like a Ferrari to you.

Honestly, even the 2.7 only has it's match within the LR range, in either the D4 or RRS models.

An advantage of the 2.7, is the ability to fit 17" rims, if more serious outback travel is in your plans. That also means cheaper and more available suitable tyres.

[Ferret]

Now I'm seeing some lower quotes for the 3ltr and reading about the new 8 speed gearbox on the 3 and I'm throwing the toys out of my pram.

Can some please tell me the 2.7 is fine for me?

I have just driven both the 2.7 and the 3.0 and I currently drive a 4.0l V8 so was expecting the 2.7 to be a bit 'so so'. But no, it really went much better than I was expecting. Having said that, I'm probably going for the 3.0 myself, but I think you will be surprised at how good the 2.7 is.

As for an 8 speed in the discovery range any time soon, well I don't think LR are going to undermine sales of the RR that foolishly so don't chuck out all your toys yet.

[CaverD3]

As for an 8 speed in the discovery range any time soon, well I don't think LR are going to undermine sales of the RR that foolishly so don't chuck out all your toys yet.

It is happening on the MY2012 in the UK.

Official LR doc:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/06/310.jpg

Probably not in the 2.7L here. It does not exist in the UK market due to new euro emmissions regs; replaced by 210HP 3.0L.

[Geedublya]

This is quite a depressing/encouraging post to read. I'm thinking about moving from the Defender to a D4. I desperately want a 3ltr but just Can't Afford It. I can barely scrape together (via debt) the coin to get a 2.7 with the $5000 (:mad::mad::mad:) real iPod connectivity that I enjoy in my Defender and a reversing camera (about $75k on road for MY12).

I don't tow and I drive like a bit of a Nanna so I would really be fine in a 2.7 and I'm trying to come to terms with that. They told me $92 for the same in 3ltr, I can't do that. Sure it has other extras as well but none I'm particularly rapt about. Now I'm seeing some lower quotes for the 3ltr and reading about the new 8 speed gearbox on the 3 and I'm throwing the toys out of my pram. :(

Can some please tell me the 2.7 is fine for me?

I'm a power junkie from way back and drove both the 4.4 and 2.7TDI before purchasing my 2.7TDI. The 4.4 didn't perform that much better IMHO.
The 2.7TDI is a very good motor, it constantly surprises me how well it moves the lump that is the D3. I would love a 3.0 D4 but I didn't want to spend 90K on something (4WDs) that I may change my mind about in a few years.
You will love the 2.7 coming from a fender it is refined, economical and will eat a fender for breakfast.

[DiscoWeb]

This is quite a depressing/encouraging post to read. I'm thinking about moving from the Defender to a D4. I desperately want a 3ltr but just Can't Afford It. I can barely scrape together (via debt) the coin to get a 2.7 with the $5000 (:mad::mad::mad:) real iPod connectivity that I enjoy in my Defender and a reversing camera (about $75k on road for MY12).

I don't tow and I drive like a bit of a Nanna so I would really be fine in a 2.7 and I'm trying to come to terms with that. They told me $92 for the same in 3ltr, I can't do that. Sure it has other extras as well but none I'm particularly rapt about. Now I'm seeing some lower quotes for the 3ltr and reading about the new 8 speed gearbox on the 3 and I'm throwing the toys out of my pram. :(

Can some please tell me the 2.7 is fine for me?

JamesH,

I consider myself a bit of a lead foot and after nearly 3 years of ownership and 50,000 km of driving have not once wanted for anything more from my 2.7 TDV6.

Now I have not driven the 3.0 lt and I am sure that it would be better again, but stick it in sports mode and with the low end torque you really do not need much more.

8 speed box might be worth the wait thought ?

The reality is that the limiting factor in driving any vehicle like this is that no matter how fast you go in a straight line you are still driving a 2.5 T 4wd so you have to slow it up in the bendy bits and you definately notice the weight when breaking.

I also drive a mini cooper (no not the S unfortunately) and the D3 eats that on the straights but is left for dead in the bends. I would like more power in the mini as it could handle it when things get fun, but no more in the D3.

For me if I move to a D4 it will be to the 2.7 and not the 3.0, not a $ issue just a practical issue and I am generally not that practical.

Also the rear parking sensors on the D3 are excellent, I actually prefer reverse parking the D3 over the mini, so unless you have a burning need for the rear camera (I have two young kids and an overly cautious wife but never had any issues) you would be better getting one much cheaper after market and save the $.

Not sure about the I-pod thing, I have an AUX port at the rear of the centre console that we plug the i-pod into and combined with a 12v power jack things are fine but we do have the 7 speaker Hi ICE I think.

As noted by ADMIRAL, the move from a defender to either option will be an exponential one.

Go the 2.7 lt, it sounds like it could save you some sleepless nights worrying about if you can afford the stretch and allow you to get out and enjoy it or spend so $ on accessories.

I think you wold find similar discounts being offer on the 2.7 as are being offered in the 3.0 anyway.

Long and the short of it, you would not be disappointed with the 2.7.

Just my thoughts.

George

[Ferret]

It is happening on the MY2012 in the UK.

Official LR doc:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/06/310.jpg



Yes, I have seen this before. Can you point to the official LR doc it comes from because when talking to a LR dealer about an 8 speed Discovery in the near future, it is being denied.

[Ashes]

IMHO I'd be very careful not to go anywhere near $ stress for any car. Unless it is a collectable it will only cost you money in terms of depreciation, insurance, new car maintenance, servicing and especially a lot of worry about damaging it. The costs you incur driving away from the dealer where you immediately turn a new car into a used car puts you further behind straight away.

[CaverD3]

Yes, I have seen this before. Can you point to the official LR doc it comes from because when talking to a LR dealer about an 8 speed Discovery in the near future, it is being denied.


It is the UK document.
Prices in UK pounds.


As for Oz? LR oZ probably do not know their ass from their elbow anyway. :angel:
Or LR UK treating them like mushrooms?
There is a list of changes for Oz but they have not been told about the transmission.
I cannot see them doing a special for Oz with the 3.0L without the eight speed but as the 2.7 is special for Oz already I can see them keeping the six speed on that.

[JamesH]

IMHO I'd be very careful not to go anywhere near $ stress for any car. Unless it is a collectable it will only cost you money in terms of depreciation, insurance, new car maintenance, servicing and especially a lot of worry about damaging it. The costs you incur driving away from the dealer where you immediately turn a new car into a used car puts you further behind straight away.

Yeah, I have all that common sense stuff going through my head right now and it's compelling. But my mortgage is really tiny by modern standards and there are no kids etc. It's really nice not to be stressed about debt.

But, on the other hand this is life, not a dress rehearsal. If not now for my first new car ever, then when? If not a Land Rover, then what? I'm about to turn 50 (:eek:) You can't take it with you.

I've told myself to cogitate for a few months and see how I feel. Ive loved my Defender for so long, it's funny though, it's like a switch has gone off in my brain, and I've woken up wanting to move on.

By the way, do I owe someone an apology for the thread hijack? I guess I do:angel: Sorry.

[PCH]

I saw a doc yesterday when i ordered mine and in the All the D4 variants there is no mention of 8 speed. The HSE mentiones a 2 port USB , if this was the only important change to oz HSE models then an 8 speed must be less important to the consumer so I think we will only be seeing the 6 speed in my12

Chris

[Wilbur]

Yeah, I have all that common sense stuff going through my head right now and it's compelling. But my mortgage is really tiny by modern standards and there are no kids etc. It's really nice not to be stressed about debt.

But, on the other hand this is life, not a dress rehearsal. If not now for my first new car ever, then when? If not a Land Rover, then what? I'm about to turn 50 (:eek:) You can't take it with you.

I've told myself to cogitate for a few months and see how I feel. Ive loved my Defender for so long, it's funny though, it's like a switch has gone off in my brain, and I've woken up wanting to move on.

By the way, do I owe someone an apology for the thread hijack? I guess I do:angel: Sorry.

Do it JamesH, I have just done the same thing at 60 - first ever new car. There are no pockets in shrouds, and there could be nothing worse than lying on your final bed and realising that you hadn't spent all your money! Life can be shorter than we expect, and today is always the correct day to have fun.

And fun I am having in the 2.7 D4 I just bought - brilliant, absolutely brilliant.

But there is still something about the Defender.... I still love driving it too, so it stays. Hang the expense, so is the Jag, and the Oka, and the 50 year old P4 Rover sedan.... as I said, no pockets in shrouds!

Cheers, and enjoy your happy anticipation.

Paul

[CaverD3]

I saw the same doc.
We will see what happens when it is released here but it wouldn't suprise me if Oz gets ripped off again.

[jonesfam]

Yep, if we don't spend it our kids will & then gloat over how silly we were.:(
Jonesfam

[Duck's Guts]

Yep, if we don't spend it our kids will & then gloat over how silly we were.:(
Jonesfam

And well they should....

Go on and get the 2.7 D4. I did 12mths ago and have never regreted it.
By the way, the D4 purchase was $30,000 more than any other vehicle I had previously owned. Repeat: NO REGRETS!

[PCH]

JamesH,

I'm not far off your age, still have a mortgage, still have primary school kids and I just blew a bucket load on another car.

It sounds like you have little debt and future overhead (eg Secondary school fees then Uni fees) so why the wait?

Enjoy a new car while you can.

Chris
(PS sorry for the hijack)

[Mike_S]

The paddle shift is great, drove a RRS with it fitted at Eastnor earlier this year. I'm told the 8 speed box is equally good, but it's fitted here to allow a reduction in emissions which is something we get battered with here in the UK for road tax & company car tax.

[discotwinturbo]

Congratulations on the choice. I'm sure you will not be disappointed. Waiting for 3months though! I'm not sure if I could.

Matt.
Scott Grayson at southern land rover.

It was the se model.

Electric seats, arm rests and colour LCD in the centre.

[discotwinturbo]

Just found out November now.

[discotwinturbo]

PrestigePerth

What model did you buy i.e SE or HSE
How did you find out about electric seats & arm rests?
Do you know of any other changes to the 2012 model.

Regards

Chuck

Colour Centre LCD Display.

USB connectivity for iPod

SE.

There were no cars available with my options, so had to go with 2012 model, which does cost $2300 more

[discotwinturbo]

Interesting post, I was also in at one of the Perth dealers today getting a test drive of D4.

From the price you mention, ~96k recommended retail price / 88k drive away, I assume you’re talking about the SE model. The current SE model, at least the one I was being shown, has manual front seats. There was no mention of what you say appears to be an interior equipment upgrade just around the corner during my conversation today.

I wonder if I'm being steered towards clearing existing stock? The drive away price being offered on existing stock for very similar specs - 3.0l, leather, rear locker plus Bi Xenon lights was only marginally less at 86k.

If it is a stock clearance pending a spec upgrade I don't necessarily mind provided it is priced accordingly but I would like full disclosure so I have an option to choose one or the other if I want it.

Can I ask what dealer you have dealt with?

Scott Grayson at southern land rover.

It was the se model.

Ipod USB in dash.

Electric seats, arm rests and colour LCD in the centre.

[discotwinturbo]

Moving from a Defender, I would expect that either motor will seem like a Ferrari to you.

Honestly, even the 2.7 only has it's match within the LR range, in either the D4 or RRS models.

An advantage of the 2.7, is the ability to fit 17" rims, if more serious outback travel is in your plans. That also means cheaper and more available suitable tyres.

I went in with full intention of buying the 2.7. My current tow car is a TDi V6 Toaureg. The 2.7 was very disappointing in acceleration and I think that towing our 3.5 tonne 7 metre horse trailer would be not as comfortable. It was my wife that pushed me towards driving the 3l.

I then drove the 3l. Not quite as quick as the Toaureg (not much in it) but it was a world apart. Toaureg is slightly lighter but gearbox has sport, normal and tiptronic, but abundance of torque on the disco saw it pull away without the need to kickback the cogs.

Once I spoke to Gordon from Green Oval Experience, i confirmed by purchase.....was very concerned about the 19's initially. I will purchase some 18's from Gordon later on with some better LT's to go on them.

[discotwinturbo]

It is happening on the MY2012 in the UK.

Official LR doc:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/06/310.jpg

Probably not in the 2.7L here. It does not exist in the UK market due to new euro emmissions regs; replaced by 210HP 3.0L.

Southerns had heard about this. But it aint in the 2012 model.....be nice if it did arrive with a 8 speed. Based on exchange rates the extra cost could be comfortably absorbed though.

[JamesH]

Very interested/pleased to hear about the iPod connectivity in the 2012 model.

I wonder if that USB point on the standard sound system will put enough power through recharge the iPod/iPhone? It would be nice to save money on not buying the sound/satnav upgrade just to run my iPod. Having said when I thought I had to buy it, that the whole upgrade touch screen satnav sound system ackage was starting to sound cool:angel:

[discotwinturbo]

Very interested/pleased to hear about the iPod connectivity in the 2012 model.

I wonder if that USB point on the standard sound system will put enough power through recharge the iPod/iPhone? It would be nice to save money on not buying the sound/satnav upgrade just to run my iPod. Having said when I thought I had to buy it, that the whole upgrade touch screen satnav sound system ackage was starting to sound cool:angel:
Southerns believe that it will charge the iPod/iPhone.