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Ranga
21st June 2011, 04:48 PM
Anybody got a frequency file I can use too save typing them all in?

Fluids
21st June 2011, 05:03 PM
Hi Ranga.

Try this one. Aus 40ch UHF.

Download the file and rename the extension .tw (is currently renamed with .txt as the bbs won't allow me to upload a .tw file)

Haven't done an 80ch one ... yet.

Ranga
21st June 2011, 05:42 PM
I've updated it now for 80 channels, but removed the CBR channels you had in the 40 channel file (not sure what they were anyway).

d@rk51d3
21st June 2011, 06:04 PM
Just checking............. should it be wide band or narrow? (I thought narrow):confused:


The CBR were repeater station setups (tx on one freq and rx on the other) without having to set the radio to duplex.

Ranga
21st June 2011, 06:14 PM
Ah, it seems you're correct, according to this page

80channel uhf cb channel at 12.5 khz spacing do i use wide band or narrow band setting? - Yahoo! Answers (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110121023618AAhwuEI)

Fluids
21st June 2011, 07:25 PM
Yep. CH41-48 are the repeater channels. Better to leave them in. Can do the same with the new repeater channels as well.

Old 40ch UHF is wide. New 80ch UHF is narrow.

Have you seen the forum ? Just about everything you'd want to know (or not! :) )
Wouxun_KG-UVD1 : Wouxun KG-UVD1 and KG-UV920R (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wouxun_KG-UVD1)

Ranga
22nd June 2011, 04:34 PM
I used this list here UHF CB Australia - 80 Channel UHF CB Radio Information & Allocations (http://www.uhfcb.com.au/80-Channel-UHF-Information.php)

Is that the best to use?

Fluids
23rd June 2011, 09:53 AM
I think that one is OK to use.

VladTepes
23rd June 2011, 11:34 AM
What in god's name is a wouxun ?

I tried the link but my work computer says its "unacceptable content".

d@rk51d3
23rd June 2011, 12:01 PM
It's a sweet little handheld UHF/VHF radio. Can be had for about $100 delivered.

Fluids
23rd June 2011, 01:09 PM
Vlad.

Try this link.

Two Way Radio KG-UVD1 (http://www.wouxun.com/Two-Way-Radio/KG-UVD1P.htm)

Available from 409shop 1x KG-UVD1P UU TX 136-174/420-520Mhz Dual Band - 409Shopwww.409shop.com ?????? KG-UVD1 UV-3R VX-8R VX-3R VX-7R VX-170 KG-699E KG-669 KG-689 PX-777 PX-888 FT-897 FT-857 VX-177 VXA-300 KG-679 VEV-3288S V-1000 TG-UV FT-817ND FT-60R FT-897 FT (http://www.409shop.com/409shop_product.php?id=104056)

Hymie
23rd June 2011, 02:01 PM
It's a sweet little handheld UHF/VHF radio. Can be had for about $100 delivered.


So I take it you can program it to UHF CB freqs?

Fluids
23rd June 2011, 02:14 PM
Yep ! :)

... and lots more.

Hymie
23rd June 2011, 03:51 PM
Nice!

Geedublya
23rd June 2011, 04:08 PM
I've updated it now for 80 channels, but removed the CBR channels you had in the 40 channel file (not sure what they were anyway).

Shouldn't it look more like the one I have attached for the duplex channels?

I'm unsure as I'm still getting the hang of this UHF stuff.

Ranga
24th June 2011, 07:13 PM
This is the one from the Icom users group.

Fluids
25th June 2011, 04:31 PM
Shouldn't it look more like the one I have attached for the duplex channels?

I'm unsure as I'm still getting the hang of this UHF stuff.


No, sorry, that's not quiet right. There's channels missing & there are no duplex channels programmed.

I'll post up something shortly.

Fluids
25th June 2011, 07:15 PM
The KG-UVD1P radio works slightly differently to a fixed program 40/80ch uhf radio you'd buy in a store, in that it has no simplex/duplex function/switch.

Simplex = Radio recieves & transmits on the same frequency.

Duplex = Radio recieves on one frequency -A but transmits on a second frequency -B. (on a specific number of channels only)

Duplex is used to access a "Repeater" station. A repeater recieves your transmission on frequency A, but rebroadcasts it on frequency B. People hear your transmission by listening to frequency B. They respond on A, and you hear them on frequency B. This allows you a much greater communications distance.

On a fixed program 40/80ch radio, when you activate the "Duplex" function, the split between the frequencies is setup automatically so the radio will transmit & recieve on different frequncies. These frequencies are fixed.

On the KG-UVD1P you have to program both the transmit & recieve frequency for each channel. Since there are 80 channels when the radio is in simplex mode, there will be 80channels with their transmit & recieve frequencies the same.

To access repeaters, the radio now needs to operate in duplex mode. Since we've already used up the first 80 positions in the radio programming the 80channels in simplex mode, we now have to program the duplex channels in to the channels positions above channel 80 on the radio.

There are 8 channels allocated for duplex/repeater used on a 40ch unit. 01-08

There are 16 channels allocated for duplex/repeater use on an 80ch unit. 01-08 and 41-48.

So on the KG-UVD1P programmed for 80channels, channels 81 thru 96 become the 16 repeater channels. They are setup with different transmit & recieve settings. Now, when your in duplex mode, the recieve channels frequency is the same as its channel number on the radio, but the transmit frequency is used from another channel! .... so ...

Rpt ch 1 - Recieves on ch 1 / Transmits on ch 31
Rpt ch 2 - Recieves on ch 2 / Transmits on ch 32
.
.
.
Rpt ch 8 - Recieves on ch 8 / Transmits on ch 38

and

Rpt ch 41 - Recieves on ch 41 / Transmits on ch 71
Rpt ch 42 - Recieves on ch 42 / Transmits on ch 72
.
.
.
Rpt ch 48 - Recieves on ch 48 / Transmits on ch 78

(compare the frequencies in the attached file)

Channels 31-38 and 71-78 are the repeater inputs - Do not use these channels for simplex transmissions as you will interfere with conversations on channels 1 to 8 and 41 to 48 (duplex mode). (the same can be said of the repeater outputs and simplex)

I've attached an 80channel setup from my KG-UVD1P. (rename .tw)
This will setup your KG-UVD1P as an 80channel UHF CB radio.
Here are some notes on the setup how/why ...

Ch1-80 are simplex. Ch81-96 are duplex.
Scanning is setup to scan all duplex repeater channels & all other channels except the repeater input/output channels setup as simplex channels (01-08/31-38 and 41-48/71-78 - any traffic on these channels will also be on radio channel 81-88/89-96 - duplex), the data channels, and the (3x) reserved channels.

The channel labels are as follows

Ch1-80 - UHFxx (simplex)
Ch81-96 - RPTxx (duplex)

The last letter after the channel labels are ...

R - channel is used for repeater access in duplex mode (avoid using unless there are no repeater stations within range so as to prevent interference)
E - Emergency Channel
T - Travelling channel (10 - 4WDers/Convoys/NP's/Clubs - 18 - Caravans & Campers convoy channel)
C - Calling channel
D - Data transmission channel
H - Highway channel (29 - Pacific & Bruce Highways - 40 - Truckies channel)
B - Broadcast channel (UHF CB Emergency Broadcast network)

Channels 61-63 are reserved for future use. They are programmed to recieve but not to transmit. Channels 22+23 (the data channels) are transmit disabled as well.


Hope this info and the attached file gets new users off to a flying start ! :)

adonuff
1st July 2011, 03:47 PM
Hi I'm about to order one, Will I be able to get help here to set it up? are the VHF channles useful? ( Happy to get a licence if needed) I cant seem to accsess the links referring to the frequency's all I get is garbage when I try? comes up in notepad as a long list of letters & No's? Are the suppliers ok,

Fluids
1st July 2011, 03:54 PM
Andrew, the file is a programming file for the radio. The file extension used is .tw but the board won't let us upload .tw files, so we've renamed them as text (.txt) files. You open this file using the programming app' that comes with the radio (after renaming it to a .tw file.

Yep, you'll get help here. Legally all you should access is the 477mhz UHF frequencies. If you sit your Ham licence, then you can legally work the relevant Ham frequencies this radio can access.

For $100 I wouldn't be too worried :)

adonuff
1st July 2011, 05:25 PM
Andrew, the file is a programming file for the radio. The file extension used is .tw but the board won't let us upload .tw files, so we've renamed them as text (.txt) files. You open this file using the programming app' that comes with the radio (after renaming it to a .tw file.

Yep, you'll get help here. Legally all you should access is the 477mhz UHF frequencies. If you sit your Ham licence, then you can legally work the relevant Ham frequencies this radio can access.
For $100 I wouldn't be too worried :)

Thanks Will be in touch when it arrives, that was one of my questions, What software comes with the radio, tried to ask the supplier, but only got a very vauge reply think it might of got lost in the translation!

Ranga
1st July 2011, 06:22 PM
Thanks Will be in touch when it arrives, that was one of my questions, What software comes with the radio, tried to ask the supplier, but only got a very vauge reply think it might of got lost in the translation!

You did order a programming cable, didn't you? :p

Fluids
1st July 2011, 06:57 PM
Andrew ... there should be a CD. Programming app', USB Drivers, User manual in pdf. There's User programming guide pdf downloadable from China Two Way Radios,Mobile Transceiver Handheld Walkie Talkies & Interphone (http://www.wouxun.com) go to the downoad tab and get KG-UVD1P programming kit package (http://www.wouxun.com/DownView.asp?ID=164&SortID=12) and the updated programing app' KG-UVD1P V2.11 (http://www.wouxun.com/DownView.asp?ID=169&SortID=12) (24/6/11) Get it all installed and load up the .tw file so your all ready to go when the radio arrives ..... takes all of less than 30sec's to setup the radio :)



You did order a programming cable, didn't you? :p

adonuff
2nd July 2011, 10:18 AM
Sounds good I did order the cable all I need is for it to get here, Will have a look at the websites and see what I can learn in the meantime

adonuff
10th July 2011, 06:40 PM
Still waiting for the arrival of the radio, wondering if the VHF capability of the radio has any practical use? If it has I am more than happy to get any licences required.

I have looked and so far cannot find anything relating to the private use of the VHF frequency range available on the radio??

So far the only use I could find for the VHF would be the ability to hear the CFA, but think that having the ability to transmit on those channles would make this fairly illegal.

Anyone know more about this??

RangieBit
10th July 2011, 08:32 PM
G'day Andrew,

The unit you are waiting on is intended for Amateur Radio Operator use and as such can be operated on their 2m (144-148MHz) and 70cm(430-450Mhz) bands here in Australia.

I think even a Foundation Amateur Radio license will cover you for operating in those bands.

As to the CFA question. Yes, it does cover those frequencies and it should be OK to operate the radio if it is programmed for receive only on these frequencies. I know of a couple of volunteers who use these radios as CBs because they also monitor SES/CFA transmissions while they are working their usual day jobs. It gives them a bit of a heads-up in case they are called out.

Not sure of the exact rules on licensing but I'm pretty sure even owning equipment that you can program for transmit (even if you never actually do it) is considered on the wrong side of legal to operate on the CB frequencies. Sure, if you behave, and only use it on frequencies you are allowed to (that is, CB ), then you are unlikely to come under scrutiny. Still doesn't alter the legality status of the set though.

Strictly under the rules I believe even operating an Amateur set on the AM CB frequencies is illegal. This is true even if you only transmit at 5W in AM mode because the set is not licensed for CB operation.

Perhaps some of the more "current" ARO's can offer additional input here as I'm a little rusty on what can and can't be used these days.

Hope that helps some.

Cheers,
Iain

adonuff
12th July 2011, 08:29 PM
Hi The radio has arrived, I have the software, the cable and everything is working fine. I can get the radio to talk to the computer and the radio to transmit and recieve using the UHF frequencies that were already on the radio.

How do I get the radio to work on the repeater channles and how do I get the 80 uhf channels from the computer to the radio? Hopefully There is a better way of changing the channles ie selecting a channle without scrolling through all of the frequencies, ie select channle 40 then go to channel 5 or 6 without having to know the actual frequency?

Think it wont be a big drama, just not pushing the right buttons yet & the manual has lost a bit in the translation!

RangieBit
12th July 2011, 10:14 PM
Hi Andrew,

Glad radio arrived in good order. How do you know the radio is talking to the computer? If the radio can talk to the computer then the computer can talk to the radio. It either works both ways or not at all.

To get to any channel you simply enter the channel number for the one you want. If you want channel 43, for example, just press "4" then "3" on the keyboard.

There have been a couple of radio files with the 80ch UHF CB plan uploaded to this forum. Just remember when you save the file to your PC to use the suffix ".tw". This is necessary as the radio software expects this ".tw" suffix and the forum can only accept ".txt" files for upload.

You should be able to open the file in the radio software and then write it to the radio. Always read and save a copy of whatever is already in the radio. This is useful just in case something goes wrong as it can do occasionally.

Let us know how you get on.

Cheers,
Iain

adonuff
13th July 2011, 08:02 PM
Thanks everyone, I have managed to get it working, Got all the repeater channles as well. Really impressed with the radio works as well as the Uniden in the LR and dont think you could get a better thing for the price