Replacement spare key

[MelbD3]

I have lost my second key for my 2005 TDV6D3. The dealer was very helpful in ordering a replacement spare key .... but this will take a month to arrive from the UK.

Can I get a key cut that I could use in the event of losing my sole remaining key, to get into the car and then to start it? I understand the key has a chip in it.

I have had one attempt. The locksmith chose a Ford blank, and started to use Ford software, but would not proceed because he said while it is physically possible to cut the key and to manually unlock the door the alarm system prevents starting of the car.

Any suggestions?

[NomadicD3]

Dam Mel, Sucks losing a key, I know:(. Unfortunately there is probably no way around it as when you get the new key you will have to get it programed for your car. This will involve pluging in a PC to the obd port and going through a complete process to get the car to recognise the key. If you have a vehicle server you can do it yourself and it is rather easy however if not expect to pay some about another $100 give or take a bit to do it for you. I am surprised it will take a month for the key to get to you. I had one ordered out of the UK and was here is 7days.
Good luck

[bbyer]

I have a story much the same, but the dealer response was more interesting. Yes, it is going to take some time to get a key out of Land Rover UK, but this is because something has gone wrong with the one an only key cutter in the whole world - yes, whole world.

My dealer now has six sets of replacement keys for other Land Rovers that do not work. Apparently something has gone wrong with either the program that tells the machine how or what to cut, or the machine is hard of hearing and does not understand the instructions.

It is not clear that the problem has been resolved yet, hence my dealer will not process my order for a replacement key until he knows that the key he will receive will function, plus gets keys to replace the ones he already has.

Also the key consists of three parts so to speak; the metal key stick that inserts into the ignition or door lock, the start chip within the key fob that communicates with the engine computer allowing a start, and the push button business that locks or unlocks doors and sets the security system.

The engine start chip and the door business are two separate unrelated systems. The battery is only for the doors; the start chip is powered separately by a burst from the engine computer and has nothing to do with the rechargeable battery energy provider circuit or the door / lock circuits.

Much to my surprise, it also appears that probably not even a good locksmithing outfit with all the tools and computers can suck the proper codes from either the key or the vehicle and program either the start chip or the door codes. It may be that a locksmith could erase everything, and start over but new computers and keys would be required.

I am not certain if this copy protection is to anyones advantage except for maybe LR, and even they are having problems.

[CaverD3]

I thought the dealer could program a new unused key to your vehicle but not one that has alredy been programed?

[bbyer]

As best I can tell, the key electronics are the Philips, (Royal Philips of Holland), rolling code system, and it is effectively, bank grade security. That is where the problem starts.

Solihull has all the start codes, push button codes, and keys cutting info on a computer program. This program both cuts the keys and codes the electronics to a particular vehicle serial number sent in by a LR dealer only.

The new key is sent to the dealer and with the T4, the dealer is able to then tell the new key to listen to what the existing keys are doing and accept them; also the existing keys and the vehicle are told to accept the new key.

If one does not take all his keys to the Land Rover dealer to have them introduced to each other at the same time, then the key that stayed home will not work any more, and I gather never will.

The idea is that lost keys, while they will still mechanically open the left front door, will not start the vehicle, nor will the push buttons work any longer.

This is another reason why if you want a Land Rover, you either have to purchase one or car jack it at a traffic light. Somehow, I am not certain that this is progress.