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wmd
4th July 2011, 05:49 PM
hi
is the seating position the same in the ute as in the wagon?
i have driven a 110 td5 wagon and i am thinking about buying a 300tdi ute from inter state so i have not had a chance to sit in one.
i am 6.1" and find the wagon a good fit (driver)

Lotz-A-Landies
4th July 2011, 05:55 PM
hi
is the seating position the same in the ute as in the wagon?
i have driven a 110 td5 wagon and i am thinking about buying a 300tdi ute from inter state so i have not had a chance to sit in one.
i am 6.1" and find the wagon a good fit (driver)The seatbox in the ute and wagon are the same, however the rear wall of the ute restricts rearward movement of the seat and prevents use of accessories like Mud rails.

If you're tall or have a large circumfrence the ute may be a problem.

rovercare
4th July 2011, 06:18 PM
I believe utes with middle seat had the outside seats further outboard

mox
4th July 2011, 06:40 PM
I have a 300Tdi Defender 130 with extended single cab. Apparently these were modifications done on new vehicles for Land Rover Australia by more`than one local body builder.
The cab is lengthened by 8 inches immediately behind the doors and there are small windows that are semi circular top and bottom in the extra piece. The seats are moved back 3 inches compared with original. However right and left seat can still be reclined back further.

On mine,I have moved the narrower middle seat, which does not have a reclining backrest back another 5 inches. It is now in the same position relative to the rear cab wall as in a standard ute cab. This allows more leg room on the odd occasion a middle passenger is carried, some storage space on the seat base`in front of the seat with cushion in place and more left elbow room for driver and right elbow room for passenger when middle seat vacant.

As`well as more seating space, there is more room behind the seats for storage. I find the amount of stuff there usually expands to fit the space available but much of it can come in handy at short notice.

Think that after getting used to this, I would find the smaller standard Land Rover ute cab a major step backwards.

Lotz-A-Landies
4th July 2011, 06:53 PM
If anyone knows of one of these extend cabs sitting around, I would be interested in acquiring one for my current defender ute..

Lest I have to make it myself.

rovercare
4th July 2011, 06:59 PM
I have a 300Tdi Defender 130 with extended single cab. Apparently these were modifications done on new vehicles for Land Rover Australia by more`than one local body builder.
The cab is lengthened by 8 inches immediately behind the doors and there are small windows that are semi circular top and bottom in the extra piece. The seats are moved back 3 inches compared with original. However right and left seat can still be reclined back further.

On mine,I have moved the narrower middle seat, which does not have a reclining backrest back another 5 inches. It is now in the same position relative to the rear cab wall as in a standard ute cab. This allows more leg room on the odd occasion a middle passenger is carried, some storage space on the seat base`in front of the seat with cushion in place and more left elbow room for driver and right elbow room for passenger when middle seat vacant.

As`well as more seating space, there is more room behind the seats for storage. I find the amount of stuff there usually expands to fit the space available but much of it can come in handy at short notice.

Think that after getting used to this, I would find the smaller standard Land Rover ute cab a major step backwards.

I agree, I made my cab 4"s longer, with the seats 2"'a back, i allows ample legroom, bit still (insert real estate speak) "cosy", I wish I'd made it a total of 8"s

85 county
4th July 2011, 08:27 PM
im 6'2" and i doint have a problem in the county, but a couple of weeks ago i sat in a puma single cab, it was OK once i got in, seemed harder than the county?? the real difference was my head was only 1/2 inch from the roof in the single cab, i doint have that problem in the county.

it was a quick sit so i doint realty know more, i would suggest that you try it for fit first

bcj
5th July 2011, 09:15 AM
I'm 6' & have a 110 c/chassis & find it ok ( I drove a series 3 for 13 years prior which has similar seat posi). Cab is small but I fit, it's nice and cosy with 2 kids & school stuff on wet day's. Don't think I'd be able to live with it if I had A/C (tdi- underdash) I like my tray length, so extended cabs out for me unless I went to a 130. You can always take roof lining out & marine carpet roof to gain head height, leg room seems small but I have no problem on long trips, but in my wife's Honda, I need a break after an hour or so. Worst part about cab is getting comfy when stopped (eg- lunch break) ,I tend to end up sprawled across seat with feet out window ;)

Brett

110 300tdi

mox
5th July 2011, 08:15 PM
Regarding air conditioning ducting on 300TDI Defender cab, pulled mine out. Reckon for the small amount of advantage being able to direct cool air, it took up far too much space. Anyway have not got around to replacing condensor after changing timing belt. Involves making a few parts. Want it connected with flexible hoses so can lean it forward`for cleaning. Also, it is narrower - will only go in front of radiator, NOT INTERCOOLER. Also coarser fins than standard. Should be overall more rather than less efficient as`less prone to block up.

Regarding tray length, largely depends on how much overhang from rear of chassis you regard`as acceptable. I have seen a 9'6'' tray on a Defender 130 with standard cab - with front very close to cab. Mine is 7'6'' and extended cab comes 8 inches further back. However I have a partially completed project moving tray further back. Currently about a foot. Room for spare wheel in middle and things like oxy acetylene bottles and firefighter knapsacks at sides. Bottoms of them just above top of chassis height. Result - less junk on tray, which usually has a stock crate on it. Note this is about 8 inches`shorter than tray. Comes in very handy as a bench, step etc.

mox
5th July 2011, 08:51 PM
If anyone knows of one of these extend cabs sitting around, I would be interested in acquiring one for my current defender ute..

Lest I have to make it myself.

Probably good ones for sale would be about as hard to obtain as stuff that supposedly comes out of the rear of rocking horses!

Obviously a fair bit of work making one. I gather Land`Rover just sent vehicles with standard cabs to body builders with instructions on the end result they wanted. Apparently construction methods vary. Should be good idea to try and look at different types to get ideas. Then you could probably improve on these. I reckon especially incorporating strength for rollover protection. My cousin bought mine at auction as low mileage wreck, which had been in low speed rollover - forced by jackknifing trailer. Cab was badly damaged, and driver`very lucky to have minor and not major neck injury. Repaired construction was similar to original. However, reckon with a bit of thought could have been made much stronger - with cab extension doubling as a rollover frame. .

Anyway, my cab has a Queensland Transport compliance plate for modifications done by Peter L Smith Engineering, which I think is in Sydney area even though it has been registered only in Victoria. Interested to know who else made these extended Defender cabs.

wmd
6th July 2011, 06:25 PM
well i have decided that i will have to sit in one to know .
i am happy to supply a 6pack of beer to some one willing to let me sit in there ute that lives within 100ks of echuca vic.
cheers corey

jskerm
7th July 2011, 08:56 AM
Corey, I am 6'5" and have no problems with my 110 ute (with under dash aircon)
It is slightly smaller in legroom than our 110 wagon and a 130 crew cab I used to own, but I prefer to sit upright rather than lying down (hate driving missus' commodore) and find the ute perfectly comfortable. In the ute I have got heaps of head room and once you get used to getting in and out in a particular fashion so as not to catch belt on door striker, I can't fault the ute over the wagon.
On long trips the only thing I sometimes find myself doing is sitting with my left foot on top of the handbrake lever just to stretch out a bit, I could sit in the ute all day everyday, (and as a farmer I sometimes do) and never get uncomfortable. I think the key is to lean the seat back forward, slide the squab all the way back, and then lean the seat back against the rear firewall. This way you sit a bit more upright, but have the most legroom possible.
Go for it.

wmd
8th July 2011, 06:32 PM
thanks for the help jskerm , i like my seat to be upright .
i have found one around here that i can sit in this sunday so i hope i like it ,
i dont wont too resort too a pootrol

gasman
10th July 2011, 04:06 PM
I have a 300Tdi Defender 130 with extended single cab. Apparently these were modifications done on new vehicles for Land Rover Australia by more`than one local body builder.
The cab is lengthened by 8 inches immediately behind the doors and there are small windows that are semi circular top and bottom in the extra piece. The seats are moved back 3 inches compared with original. However right and left seat can still be reclined back further.

On mine,I have moved the narrower middle seat, which does not have a reclining backrest back another 5 inches. It is now in the same position relative to the rear cab wall as in a standard ute cab. This allows more leg room on the odd occasion a middle passenger is carried, some storage space on the seat base`in front of the seat with cushion in place and more left elbow room for driver and right elbow room for passenger when middle seat vacant.

As`well as more seating space, there is more room behind the seats for storage. I find the amount of stuff there usually expands to fit the space available but much of it can come in handy at short notice.

Think that after getting used to this, I would find the smaller standard Land Rover ute cab a major step backwards.

With the seat back, you would not be able to see out of the window?

mox
11th July 2011, 09:14 AM
well i have decided that i will have to sit in one to know .
i am happy to supply a 6pack of beer to some one willing to let me sit in there ute that lives within 100ks of echuca vic.
cheers corey

I am in Nathalia area. PM sent

mox
11th July 2011, 09:22 AM
With the seat back, you would not be able to see out of the window?
Due to presence of the small side`windows, there is no significant blind spot.

wmd
11th July 2011, 06:04 PM
well i had a drive of one last night and it was a good fit .
just need to get organized now and buy one