D4 Shock!!

[landroverwa]

Was in an independent Land Rover workshop this week and had a D4 pointed out to me that had the complete body shell lifted with a 2 post hoist off the chassis.

The explanation was that the body shell had to come off for access to remove the rocker cover on a TDV6.

Was someone having a major 'lend' of me or was I hallucinating??
(Been under a bit of stress lately - Puma getting new engine)

landroverwa

[jonesy63]

I've seen comments about the body having to come off - to make changing the turbos quicker, or changing motors. I doubt the body needs to come off to do the rocker covers.

Taking the body off is not too hard - see a post by Ron which showed it on a RRS, which has a similar setup.

[Dorko]

My friend use to work for LR as a mech... he said its quicker for the body to come off with engine work... takes around 30 minutes if you have all the equipment.

Amazing design!

Dorko

[RR P38]

I guess having to take the body off to complete routine maintanance stops the DIY crowd from fiddling for free at home!

[ozscott]

Good Christ

[theresanothersteve]

I remember doing gearbox work on my 2a...

Remove setas, squab, floor, and take the box out through the cab.

If it is a 30 minute job I guess its progress, stripping out the 2a took 1/2 a day.

;)

[WhiteD3]

Was in an independent Land Rover workshop this week and had a D4 pointed out to me that had the complete body shell lifted with a 2 post hoist off the chassis.

The explanation was that the body shell had to come off for access to remove the rocker cover on a TDV6.

Was someone having a major 'lend' of me or was I hallucinating??
(Been under a bit of stress lately - Puma getting new engine)

landroverwa

What does "Independent" mean? If it was a D4 it'd be under warranty and any repairs would be done I assume, by a dealer, not the local LR workshop.

[willem]

Good Christ

That's true!

Willem

[mowog]

Mine will be going in for a body off treatment soon to deal with a leaky turbo. I am just waiting on a call to say they have the parts.

[p38arover]

I've seen comments about the body having to come off - to make changing the turbos quicker, or changing motors. I doubt the body needs to come off to do the rocker covers.

Taking the body off is not too hard - see a post by Ron which showed it on a RRS, which has a similar setup.

See pix at http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/129096-engine-replacement-rrs-supercharged.html

[spudboy]

Can't decide if this is brilliant or completely stupid :eek:

Most places have a hoist, but it seems like a lot of palava (sp? Ron?) to work on an engine.

Can't see how you could do all that unplugging/unbolting in half an hour, or even an hour. Reckon it'd take quite a but longer to put back together than to separate.

Anyway - Progress. Or Not.

[oldsalt]

Easy peasy ... or so they say !!!!

http://files.myopera.com/veedub5/albums/1286821/b29cf0c4.png

[ozscott]

Just like the problems with electrical dramas that can be encountered fitting seemingly innocuous items like a bull bar or UHF to a d3/4 this is another nail in the coffin of the home mechanic being able to conveniently work on these. Same pretty much for most of the new trucks. Cheers

[landroverwa]

I was told ....D4 was 6,000kms out of warranty. Some heavy duty driving had been needed to hurriedly exit a rapidly flooding deep gully. Engine making 'clacking' noise, possibly hydraulic lifters? Dealer had allegedly been disinterested in engine investigation but had quoted $15,000 for a replacement engine. Hence to independent workshop for work. Had taken 1 day+ to get body off.

I'm still in shock. Looked very similar to OldSalt's photo. I obviously have to make some adjustments to come to terms with the modern automotive world.
Cheers
landroverwa

[Ferret]

I was told ....D4 was 6,000kms out of warranty. .... Dealer had allegedly been disinterested in engine investigation but had quoted $15,000 for a replacement engine.

Is this another engine that Landrover believes the consumer should only expect 80-100k from? Merchantable quality? Hmmm - maybe not.

[CaverD3]

Tou are still entitled to claim under consumer legisation. Reasonable expectation that the engine should last longer.

[TerryO]

I would imagine the D3 and D4 with a 2.7 fitted are the same regarding rocker covers or heads being taken off.

My D3 has very recently had one of its heads taken off as part of a warranty claim and this was done with the body still on. So yes it would seam someone was having a lend of you regarding rocker covers.

I have read elsewhere that you also need to take the body off to change the fuel pump belt, that is incorrect as well.

cheers,
Terry

[Celtoid]

Mine will be going in for a body off treatment soon to deal with a leaky turbo. I am just waiting on a call to say they have the parts.

Hey MOWOG,

Any progress on this for you? My D4 SE was just diagnosed with the same issue....though the leak is miniscule. :mad:

Austral recon they have the parts in country, so mine is going in mid next month for the two day operation.

Can I ask what MY your D4 is incidently, just trying to establish if it's 2009 (MY10) build vehicles only?

Kev.

[Celtoid]

I was told ....D4 was 6,000kms out of warranty. Some heavy duty driving had been needed to hurriedly exit a rapidly flooding deep gully. Engine making 'clacking' noise, possibly hydraulic lifters? Dealer had allegedly been disinterested in engine investigation but had quoted $15,000 for a replacement engine. Hence to independent workshop for work. Had taken 1 day+ to get body off.

I'm still in shock. Looked very similar to OldSalt's photo. I obviously have to make some adjustments to come to terms with the modern automotive world.
Cheers
landroverwa

There's a D4 with more than 100,000Ks on it already? :eek:

[scarry]

Can't decide if this is brilliant or completely stupid :eek:

Most places have a hoist, but it seems like a lot of palava (sp? Ron?) to work on an engine.

Can't see how you could do all that unplugging/unbolting in half an hour, or even an hour. Reckon it'd take quite a but longer to put back together than to separate.

Anyway - Progress. Or Not.

Can't wait to get one of these new complicated vehicles,advancement?

I can just imagine the dealer,now it's out of warranty,gonna take a day at $150(or whatever) an hour before we can get started?And then it's gotta all go back together proprly.

I just hope it goes back together properly......

Looks like JC,MR auto etc will be shopping for a few more hoists....


Looks like the D2 is gonna be here for a while:)

[CaverD3]

Get with the program guys. :D

Discos have been like this since 2004. Great design; monocoque body on a ladder frame. Body comes off easily it was deigned to do so, the connectors are made to be undone.
Remember most things can be done with the body on but as with most modern vehicles there is not much room under the bonnet. Some vehicles need the engine out to change turbos. :eek: Body off on these vehicles is easier.
Dealers make a decision as to what will be quicker and easier and in some cases where the LR manual says body off job dealers have found a way to do the job without.