Help identify a Series 1

[dubdocker]

Hello all,
One of my friends and I have gotten interested in restoring his family's series 1 Land Rover, which hasn't moved for many years.

First thing to do is actually identify what it is, which is a bit much for my current skill level!

[dubdocker]

A few obvious things are
- soft roof & hoops intact
- massive dents everywhere - one of us is going to get a lot of bodywork experience...
- lots of bits missing e.g. wipers, upper doors
- non-series 1 LHS fender, pushed inwards

I hope that having been out in the country it's whole life will have saved it from much rust.

[101RRS]

Looks like a 88" basic - 2 litre. Most likely 57 or 58. This is based on the 88" radiator panel but they can be changed easily enough.

If you put up the chassis number and engine number then that will provide confirmation.

Garry

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hello all,
One of my friends and I have gotten interested in restoring his family's series 1 Land Rover, which hasn't moved for many years.

First thing to do is actually identify what it is, which is a bit much for my current skill level!Give us a car number and we can tell you (or look it up on CalVIN (Clifton Scientific Text Services, the Netherlands (http://www.clifton.nl))) The number should be on a plate on the firewall with the transfer case instructions.

As Garry says the grill looks 1957/58 88" but to my mind the guards/wheelarch look to be an earlier 86" but the image angle makes that assessment difficult.

To my eye the LHS mudguard is an earlier 80" guard with a headlight hole.

[digger]

Give us a car number and we can tell you (or look it up on CalVIN (Clifton Scientific Text Services, the Netherlands (http://www.clifton.nl))) The number should be on a plate on the firewall with the transfer case instructions.

As Garry says the grill looks 1957/58 88" but to my mind the guards/wheelarch look to be an earlier 86" but the image angle makes that assessment difficult.

To my eye the LHS mudguard is an earlier 80" guard with a headlight hole.

yes one piece gaurd (bugger about the hole!) may need to find another tub, whats the rust like in the chassis and firewall (may be a problem being it has a crop growing up under/around it!)

as already said, CALVIN is your friend!

[digger]

A few obvious things are
- soft roof & hoops intact
- massive dents everywhere - one of us is going to get a lot of bodywork experience...
- lots of bits missing e.g. wipers, upper doors
- non-series 1 LHS fender, pushed inwards

I hope that having been out in the country it's whole life will have saved it from much rust.

having the hoops is a very good thing

dents.... remember its not normal body panel and may require different methods..

wipers bolt straight through the hole at base of windscreen
upper doors, nah, don't need em!


and as said front lhs guard is a True series 1 guard (all one piece firewall to bottom front) from an 80" (the first landies) indicating this is 86"?

[wrinklearthur]

Hi Dubdocker

My thoughts are that it is a 88" 1957, soft top, looking forward to the finding out by the serial numbers.

clues are;

The swing down number plate bracket, later models.
Horn button on the stork.
Horn mounted under and to the bonnet itself.
Fully floating rear axles, ( about 7/8" shorter each side than the series two , series two axles can be used by fitting a spacer's under the driving flange).
Radiator panel with one hole and made from steel.
Plate under the draw hitch only fitted to later series ones, earlier series ones had the wider draw bar hitch bolted under the chassis with a line of holes in it.
The brackets fitted at the top of the windscreen frame, are to hold the windscreen down when the soft top is taken off, they were not always fitted in the later hardtop models.

Cheers Arthur

[101RRS]

and as said front lhs guard is a True series 1 guard (all one piece firewall to bottom front) from an 80" (the first landies) indicating this is 86"?

That LHS guard is a ring in - what is a True series 1 guard? - lol.

That RHS guard definitely looks like it has the extra 2" in it so an 88 which when tied in with the 88 radiator panel indicates more than likely a 88 rather than a 86.

But as indicated the chassis number will tell all.

Garry

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hi Dubdocker

My thoughts are that it is a 88" 1957, soft top, looking forward to the finding out by the serial numbers.

clues are; ...
<snip>I think the quiz winner is Arthur because of his extensive list of clues, Arthur gets an early mark, to the runner up Garry for being first correct answer, a box of chocolates, Garry you just need to pop over and pick them up! :D

Diana

[digger]

That LHS guard is a ring in - what is a True series 1 guard? - lol.
Garry


yeah, badly worded, true series one was my way of trying to say first of the series 1's...(the 80's)

sort of a series 1/2 (0.5) maybe?

[101RRS]

true series one was my way of trying to say first of the series 1's...(the 80's)

Yeah I know - you 80s peoples are very prejudice against us 86/88 peoples :D

[digger]

Yeah I know - you 80s peoples are very prejudice against us 86/88 peoples :D

hey, I have 3 x 88's,(another lined up) 2 x part 80s! and a 109, I am "ambilengthdurous!" (I use/love all lengths!)

[101RRS]

I am "ambilengthdurous!" (I use/love all lengths!)

:eek: Now that is a worry.

[digger]

:eek: Now that is a worry.

MMM, see what you mean, :o let me re word that...

I like all the series and the defenders so I may be
"LANDYDEXTUROUS" ?? ;)

IS THAT BETTER?:D:D

[wrinklearthur]

I think the quiz winner is Arthur because of his extensive list of clues, Arthur gets an early mark, to the runner up Garry for being first correct answer, a box of chocolates, Garry you just need to pop over and pick them up! :D

Diana
Oh H-eck

I've started on the chocolates !

I didn't realise that they weren't for me, I brought them this arvo with my hard earned cash, but didn't read this thread till now.

Oh woe! what am I going to do .

The chocys are nice though. :oops2:
Cheers Arthur

[series1buff]

Oh H-eck

I've started on the chocolates !

I didn't realise that they weren't for me, I brought them this arvo with my hard earned cash, but didn't read this thread till now.

Oh woe! what am I going to do .

The chocys are nice though. :oops2:
Cheers Arthur

Hmm choccies are fine Arthur , but stay away from the Possums in the trees. Tasmanian stew they call it :wasntme: Nice with some veggies in the pot :twisted:

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Yeah I know - you 80s peoples are very prejudice against us 86/88 peoples :DActually the only real "Land Rover" is the Land Rover that had the 80" wheelbase! :angel:

The rest were 86" Land Rover; 107" Land Rover; 88" Land Rover; 109" Land Rover the ones built before 1958 only became Series One in 1958 when the Series II came out.

So remember if you don't own an 80" your not a real Land Rover owner.

Diana :wasntme:

[101RRS]

Actually the only real "Land Rover" is the Land Rover that had the 80" wheelbase! :angel:

The rest were 86" Land Rover; 107" Land Rover; 88" Land Rover; 109" Land Rover the ones built before 1958 only became Series One in 1958 when the Series II came out.

So remember if you don't own an 80" your not a real Land Rover owner.

Diana :wasntme:

Oh Please

[wrinklearthur]

Hmm choccies are fine Arthur , but stay away from the Possums in the trees. Tasmanian stew they call it :wasntme: Nice with some veggies in the pot :twisted:

Just the thing after a frosty nights Possum shooting in the stripped down 86", not real Landy!

Sure doesn't beats Native hen broth, suppose you need the recipe now.

Take one Native hen and dress it by skinning it first.
lots of dicey vegetables.
throw it all into a pot, add water,( if drought time use beer, but if thirsty drink beer and use water instead ).
cook for a long time.
then try the meat with a fork if you can poke it in a little, its time to add the last ingredient.
get out that stone that you was going to chuck at the steer, from your back pocket and place in the broth .
cook for a lot longer, then try the stone with the fork.
When the stone is soft, serve it up, ( the stone that is ) and throw the rest out.

Cheers Arthur

[digger]

same recipe for wombat but you need salt, lots of salt (for the rock its sandstone around here...):D:D

[wrinklearthur]

same recipe for wombat but you need salt, lots of salt (for the rock its sandstone around here...):D:D
Hi Digger

All info about real landys now taken with a pinch of salt. :lol2:

Cheers Arthur