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stefan_bonnici
23rd August 2011, 10:27 AM
Hi all i don't know if this has been posted before, but i came across these defenders for sale at manheim (fowles) Auction in NSw.

Maybe someone would be interested in these

Here is the link:
Used Cars for sale, Salvage, Trucks, Trailers, Machinery, Motorcycles and Marine. (http://www.manheim.com.au/ttpm/items'searchType=S&CategoryID=&State=&SearchString=DEFENDER)

Cheers
stefan

muddys1
23rd August 2011, 10:35 AM
be interesting to find out how much they go for, they may set the pace for all the other defenders being retired.
wouldn't mind a couple myself for a project ....pity wallet is empty :(

cheers
muddy

isuzurover
23rd August 2011, 10:50 AM
be interesting to find out how much they go for, they may set the pace for all the other defenders being retired.
wouldn't mind a couple myself for a project ....pity wallet is empty :(

cheers
muddy

Not sure it will, as these are TD5, 5 speeds - so mechanically completely different to the real perenties (and much newer).

Plus the perenties will apparently now be sold off in bulk/tender.

THE BOOGER
23rd August 2011, 10:54 AM
Yeh the "perentie 110" can off the same production line as the counties not a lot of difference between them no defers back then:) Still interesting to see what they go for

Lotz-A-Landies
23rd August 2011, 11:49 AM
According to some "experts" all coil sprung Land Rovers (non-RRc/Disco) are Defenders. This is particularly true of the parts suppliers like LR Series (http://www.lrseries.com/). County was a trim level, not unlike HiLine in the RRc. In the UK, you could even get Stage 1 SIII with the "County" trim level.

The TD5s at this auction would be ideal for "old guys" who want to travel to things like Corowa Swim-In in a bit of comfort and still feel like they are involved. A lot of them are having trouble driving their old Blitz and GPW etc all the way down. A TD5 would also make a great tow vehicle for their GPW/A

Diana

Mick_Marsh
23rd August 2011, 11:55 AM
SSSHHHH!
Don't tell everybody about them.

I'm bidding on them.

Oh, and are they Td5's? They have Tdi stickers on the back.

isuzurover
23rd August 2011, 12:03 PM
SSSHHHH!
Don't tell everybody about them.

I'm bidding on them.

Oh, and are they Td5's? They have Tdi stickers on the back.

I can't see any Tdi stickers?

They have the TD5 protruding grille, and one is listed as a 2000 model.

MacFamily
23rd August 2011, 12:15 PM
I can not see any Tdi stickers either but iam not convinced that the one that says its a 2000 model is.

As the grill does not protude, also the dash is different the vent handles are tdi and also no a/c like the others and center controls is different, also the rear reverse light is the old style tdi unlike the others that have the round td5 style.

To me this looks like a Tdi model where as the other appear to be td5 but iam no expert by any means.

tdriver
23rd August 2011, 12:39 PM
This ones at darwin38303 1978 Rover Landrover Series 111 Station Wagon Winch


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/08/399.jpgBrochure Download (http://www.manheim.com.au/ttpm/brochure/createitemdetail'saleID=TD9&itmID=000000000003166137)

Item Location

Berrimah, Darwin, Northern Territory


Item Details


Build Year:1978
Make:Rover
Body Type: Station Wagon
Model:Landrover
Variant:Series 111
Odometer:46,531 KM
Transmission:4spd Manual
Fuel Type:Petrol
Suspension:Spring suspension


Item Info



Registration:938263
VIN:943255850

Features

isuzurover
23rd August 2011, 12:43 PM
I can not see any Tdi stickers either but iam not convinced that the one that says its a 2000 model is.

As the grill does not protude, also the dash is different the vent handles are tdi and also no a/c like the others and center controls is different, also the rear reverse light is the old style tdi unlike the others that have the round td5 style.

To me this looks like a Tdi model where as the other appear to be td5 but iam no expert by any means.

However it has an updated rear door (round glass corners) - which appeared mid TD5 AFAIK?

Pics could have been mixed up.
Parts could have been replaced during service with earlier or later parts.

I thought VINs and other details needed to be shown when advertising vehicles for sale (by law)?

scrambler
23rd August 2011, 01:14 PM
LR have been known to mix-and-match (including fitting Tdi engines for TD5-era British military vehicles).

Whether the grill protrudes or not is no indication of era. The protruding grill indicates whether the vehicle has factory air conditioning. Air conditioning in the Tdi era in Australia was dealer/importer fitted. The factory Tdi air was the same as the County and even LRA knew how bad that was. Every vehicle without air conditioning has the flush grill, from the County through to the TD5.

It is believed (which we all know that can be very wrong) that no Tdi Defenders went into Army service, through some were trialed. I saw a trials crew-cab Defender 110 Tdi in the flesh, and it had a split rear tailgate/hatch (essentially Series 3 style). Looked quite similar to this vehilce internally. IF this was a trials vehicle accepted into service then the rear door may have been upgraded to the TD5 version on the other vehicles.

87County
23rd August 2011, 01:18 PM
Phoenix correctly points out that they're TD5s....(with aircon too)

see earlier thread

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/remlr-general/133623-these-tdi-td5.html


;) ;) ;)

scrambler
23rd August 2011, 01:26 PM
Phoenix correctly points out that they're TD5s....(with aircon too)

see earlier thread

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/remlr-general/133623-these-tdi-td5.html


;) ;) ;)
Except, just possibly, the last one, with description starting "2000"

At the least it has no air conditioning and the basic dash where the others have factory air and the central TD5 dash pod. Plus there is the older rectangu lar reversing light. Knowing that 300Tdi's where trialed for this role, what is to say this is definitely not a Tdi? Assuming the 2000 isn't right, of course. It's the only thing that rules it out, and even then not absolutely as the British MOD was still receiving 300Tdi engined vehicles at that time. The trials vehicle I saw did not have A/C. I might have been more unhappy about missing out on buying it if it did.

I give it a 50-50.

LowRanger
23rd August 2011, 02:44 PM
There are VIN's listed for all the vehicles,and according to the listed VIN on the last vehicle it is a 2000 TD5

Wayne

landcol
23rd August 2011, 05:51 PM
im no guru but ive read before and also read on sites like wikipedia that no td5's went to the army.they were to worried about reliability with the electrics.not being able to be fixed in the 'field' and all were fitted with 300tdi?just a thought

Lotz-A-Landies
23rd August 2011, 06:01 PM
[FONT=""]im no guru but ive read before and also read on sites like wikipedia that no td5's went to the army.they were to worried about reliability with the electrics.not being able to be fixed in the 'field' and all were fitted with 300tdi?just a thoughtI too am not an expert, but the fact that MY00 Defenders are arriving in the auction system when MY87 Isuzu/Parenties are still in service gives one the impression that you may be correct about reliability.

PS serves you right for assuming that Wikipedia was any sort of authoratitive source of information.

samuelclarke
23rd August 2011, 06:26 PM
Man I've love one of them! Could keep my Defender company. :D Just a small problem of no spare cash at the moment. Bugger.

Well actually I'd love an Isuzu powered one over a TD5...hopefully they'll be kinder on the wallet when they're up for auction.

Be interesting to see what these TD5 ones go for.

LRO53
24th August 2011, 12:49 AM
They are Td5. As per below.

ADF buys Defender Td5s -REMLR (http://www.remlr.com/110-td5.html)