Vin/chassis help

[Robocop]

Hi all,

I'm side stepping from the Discovery 4 thread to ask a question on this side of the site. I'm work with a fellow (Mark) who is in the process of restoring a S2 or 2A. I actually helped rescue this vehicle from it's swampy grave 2 years ago when I had a 110... and wrecked my clutch at the same time!!

Anyway my internet challenged workmate is having a load of trouble trying to identify what he has for rego. I know it's a single cab 109 with 6cyl Holden 186, sky blue with ute back, pipe frame & canvass covering. Mark seems to think the chassis number will be on the chassis nearside rear leaf shackle but the only number he found was a part number for the chassis not the chassis number.

So my question is... Is there any identifying numbers somewhere on the chassis, body or gearbox/transfer case that can assist Mark. There is no compliance plate on the vehicle, it's been removed.

If needed I could organize some pics.

Cheers Rob

[p38arover]

From the Four Wheel Drives catalogue it should be at the rear left behind the spring hanger.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[JDNSW]

The number should be on the bracket that holds the shackle at the rear of the LH back spring, on the flat bit facing out. It is likely to need the paint removing to see.

It will be a plain eight digit number, with a single letter suffix if it is a 2a, not the long alphanumeric you may expect from a VIN.

In the unlikely event that it is not an Australian assembled one, it may have the number elsewhere, possibly on the same place as it was on your Defender, but it should only be in one location.

John

[tribute_landy]

Been looking at vin/chassis details myself.

This is a good site for chassis info.

Land Rover FAQ - History, Production, Sales - Chassis Numbering (http://www.lrfaq.org/FAQ.3.Chassis_Numbers.html)

cheers Rich

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Except that it doesn't give much information about vehicles assembled outside the UK.

e.g. 80" and 86: assembled by Annand & Thompson after 1951 had the chassis number stamped on the top of the LHS chassis rail.

UK assembled vehicles SIIa SIIB SIII have the chassis number on the RHS front spring hanger bracket and SIIb assembled in South Africa in the 1970s had them on the LHS front spring hanger.

[series3]

e.g. 80" and 86: assembled by Annand & Thompson after 1951 had the chassis number stamped on the top of the LHS chassis rail.

Do you know if this is true for later series vehicles assembled by A&T?

Sam

[Robocop]

Thanks for the assistance guys I'll tell him tonight & may take a few pics with my phone & put them on.

[NiteMare]

i'm in the UK and all my UK Series motors have the number on the outside of the drivers side dumb iron, so does my 1970/71 2a ex-mili' 88" from New Zealand..

they all predate the vin numbers so are only 8 numbers plus suffix letter, i've not looked at any later motors or researched any other countries motors

[Lotz-A-Landies]

i'm in the UK and all my UK Series motors have the number on the outside of the drivers side dumb iron, so does my 1970/71 2a ex-mili' 88" from New Zealand..

they all predate the vin numbers so are only 8 numbers plus suffix letter, i've not looked at any later motors or researched any other countries motorsWe're not going to get into a semantics match are we?

Front "spring hangers" are synonymous with "dumb irons" just not everyone understands the archaic term dumb irons.

Dumbirons = The front extensions of the side members of a chassis frame in older designs, to which were fitted the front ends of the leaf springs carrying the front axle. ( http://www.motorera.com/dictionary/DU.HTM )Spring hanger = A rubber-bushing bracket on a vehicle chassis on which a leaf Spring eye is mounted. Automotive Dictionary - "SP" (http://www.motorera.com/dictionary/SP.HTM#Spring_Hanger)

It is important to remember the number is stamped on the bracket and not on the chassis side rail like it is on later coil sprung Land Rovers (which don't dumb irons).

[NiteMare]

i wasn't interested in parts names, i was just passing on a tiny bit of information i have from my limited knowledge/experience of landrovers iusing the terms/names that i and just about anyone in the UK that talks old Series landrovers refer to them as (the dealers also sell replacement dumbirons as replacement dumbirons)

you Aussies refer to axles as diffs from what i can make out, over here the diff is just the centre with the gears in it, and the diff is then fitted into the axle, there's no doubt other parts that take a little thinking about...

it's all just names that sometimes need clarifying between locations ;)

we'll not get into the terminology that the Americans use :lol2:

aloominum :Rolling:

[Lotz-A-Landies]

i wasn't interested in parts names, i was just passing on a tiny bit of information i have from my limited knowledge/experience of landrovers iusing the terms/names that i and just about anyone in the UK that talks old Series landrovers refer to them as (the dealers also sell replacement dumbirons as replacement dumbirons)

you Aussies refer to axles as diffs from what i can make out, over here the diff is just the centre with the gears in it, and the diff is then fitted into the axle, there's no doubt other parts that take a little thinking about...

it's all just names that sometimes need clarifying between locations ;)

we'll not get into the terminology that the Americans use :lol2:

aloominum :Rolling:Actually the parts catalogue refers to axle assemblies. I don't think anyone over here is confused about what is a diff or what is a halfshaft. When you think about it an axle housing is merely a different name for what could also be called a differential housing. It makes no sense however to talk about a Rover axle or a Salisbury axle! The diff is the functional part so pragmatically its a salisbury diff assembly.

Now don't get me started on bulkhead, nowhere in any Rover manual does it mention the word yet Brits are always correcting our firewall terminology.

Tilts is another.

Then aeroplanes have wings and boats have fenders, we're happy having mudguards on our Land Rovers.

[p38arover]

Now able to upload image:

[wrinklearthur]

???

Cheers Arthur

[p38arover]

In my original post on Page 1, I was unable to upload the image owing to a problem with the site (now fixed). I've now added it to that post.

[isuzutoo-eh]

In my original post on Page 1, I was unable to upload the image owing to a problem with the site (now fixed). I've now added it to that post.

SNIP aulro.com/afvb/attachments/mods-pen/38799d1315256744-image-uploads-series-vin.jpg

Actually Ron, you uploaded your image to the mods pen, so us commoners can't see it :o

[p38arover]

Ahh. Thanks Mark. It went there on a test. I'll fix it. Hopefully, all can now see it.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/