200tdi cutting out

[Elblado]

My 1993 200tdi 110 has developed a problem where it starts really easily but then cuts out after about 15-20secs. It doesn't stutter it just cuts out almost instantly. It did have the battery light on but Ive since concluded that the warning light lead was hooked up to the wrong terminal on the alternator. So since I changed that the light extinguishes but shortly after that the whole engine cuts out. I'm a novice so any tips would be appreciated. Heres what I've looked at so far.

1. Fuel Vacumn- removed the filler cap. started with it removed- problem persisted

2. Fuel stop solenoid switch- checked with test light with ignition on but not started- receiving 12V. Could this be cutting out after starting?

3. Fuel Filter- did not replace but opened bottom valve and hand primed some fuel through. Fuel was clear and ran out without restriction.

4. Alternator- providing 14.4V to battery. Checked belt tension OK. could only do quick checks while the engine was running for the 15 seconds.

5. Battery- Brand new Century- fully charged. showing 12.5v on start- as above receiving 14.4v

[LowRanger]

As I mentioned on your other post,my first bet is that the cut off solenoid is losing power,the power to the cutoff solenoid on a majority of models but not all,comes from the glow plug relay.If the relay is faulty,you will lose the power feed to the solenoid.
You can feed 12v direct to the solenoid from another source and see if the vehicle keeps running.
Seeing that you have a test light,keep your test light on the solenoid connection while someone else starts the vehicle,keep the test light on the connection till the vehicle cuts out,and you will see if the power to the solenoid is lost.

Hope this helps,it is a fairly simple system.

Wayne

[Elblado]

Thanks for that. Thought I'd wack this in a different thread as its a different issue. Ill have a look at the glow plug relay. Was also going to remove the solenoid to see if the pin is sticking but its a tricky bugger to get to so I'll try these avenues first.

How can I test the glow plug relay?

If it's a fuel blockage or pump failure how can I isolate where/what? I was going to remove the fuel line from the filter to the injector pump and see if it squirts fuel if I hand prime the pump. Or should I turn the engine over as this would tell me if the pump is working.

[Elblado]

held test light on the solenoid switch and it goes out exactly when the engine cuts, but I guess thats not really telling me anything as it would do that anyway wouldn't it?

also provided alternative 12v supply from an old battery I had lying around (tested it was supplying 12v) placed the wire on the top of the terminal on the solenoid and it did the same thing. ran for approx 30 secs then it died.

Now the funny thing was that prior to that on one of my test starts (I'd undone the sedimentor and primed the fuel filter, checked the glow plug relay and sprayed it with some electrical cleaner) I also rocked the car forward in 4th to get the engine/cam to turn over as the hand lever on the fuel lift pump wasn't engaged. It then started and idled for about 5 mins. So I got in and drove down the end of the street and back with no problems. Switched off for a few minutes, started and it died again. Could it be that Ive got some crap in the fuel lines or tank somewhere and rocking it cleared it momentarilly only to have it sucked back up again? Not convinced its a fuel problem though as it doesn't run rough when going and doesn't splutter before dying it's just instant like someone switching the ignition off.

Ill continue trying to isolate the problem.

[Elblado]

Could it have anything to do with the BES turbo timer I have installed? anyone else had any problems?

[justinc]

Could it have anything to do with the BES turbo timer I have installed? anyone else had any problems?

Yes, I'd isolate it and see if it still cuts out.

JC

[Elblado]

Problem Solved!!!!!! Friggin' turbo timer isn't bypassing when the engine is first running therefore its cutting out after 30 secs which it was set on. Pressed the mins to 5 and it kept running. Now to work out how to remove this thing. Is there a simple way to bypass it or will I need to rewire the ignition?

[justinc]

Problem Solved!!!!!! Friggin' turbo timer isn't bypassing when the engine is first running therefore its cutting out after 30 secs which it was set on. Pressed the mins to 5 and it kept running. Now to work out how to remove this thing. Is there a simple way to bypass it or will I need to rewire the ignition?

just remove the thing, it isn't necessary. You'll see where it is hooked into the ignition wires, just cut and resolder.

I don't recomend them at all, bloody dangerous if you ask me. I had a Defender started unintentionally in the workshop, took too long to shut off after the cancel button was found to be faulty and in that time the main serpentine belt had chewed itself up and nearly caused 100's of $$ damage to a very expensive snap on tool:mad::mad: Just think what would've happened had someones hand been caught in the belt or worse, their clothing or hair:eek:

There are also legal requirements to not leave the vehicle running unattended etc so if I were you I'd stick it on Ebay or toss it.

JC

[LowRanger]

Just got back from a very soggy Land Rover Expo,glad to see that you have the problem solved:) Now if we had just known that there was an aftermarket turbo timer fitted;)

Wayne