New General Grabber AT [Archive] - Australian Land Rover Owners

Dirty3

2nd October 2011, 11:54 AM

After some questions on another thread, here is some info I dug up on the NEW General Grabber AT. Thought i'd start a specific thread.

I had one fitted to my car on Saturday as the wrong tyre supplied to dealer. He put it on as a spare until the AT2 comes in this week. I'll ask the dealer th low down on price for these and post it when i find out.

I did some searching and found the launch brochure on this website.

http://www.ajstyres.co.uk/the_new_general_AT/Pages/1.html

The General Tyres website gave me no info at all on them!! I have attached pics of the New AT size chart...also the GG Red Dot for offroad use....unfortunately no sizes to suit plus a 160km speed rating only..bugger!

Cheers Neil.

33chinacars

2nd October 2011, 12:41 PM

chuck

2nd October 2011, 04:27 PM

If you go to this website it gives you more info;
www.generaltire.eu
This has both AT & AT2 amongst others.
Basically the AT is new generation & was developed to beat Europes drive by noise test so it should be quite.
Pricing is good as I was quoted $268 fitted & balanced in 255 x 55 x 19 so 18's should be cheaper.
These will be my next set of every day tyres & will give more confidence than the standard goodyears.
I have a big set of MTZ's to play with but I do not like to run these daily for two reasons
1. Fuel economy - 2 litres per 100 k penalty.
2. Noise.

Regards

Mike_S

3rd October 2011, 09:57 AM

Guys, there's shedloads of info on these tyres on DISCO3.CO.UK - Index (http://www.disco3.co.uk) where ajs tyres are one of the forum sponsors.

It's a tyre that's gained a lot of support here for being a slightly cheaper competitor to the Pirelli ATR in the 255/55/19 size. From what I read on here it's significantly cheaper in Oz than the Pirelli so in that instance it would be worth a try.

From a personal perspective I run the ATR on my car and have just this Friday put a new set on ready for shipping to Oz. The main reason I've gone for the ATR over a set of the GG's is wear rate v cost, I've got 44,000 miles out of my ATR's and they still had ~4mm on them, so I've kept 2 as spares. The wear rates for GG's is more round the 30,000 miles area, so given the relatively small price difference here between the GG's & ATR's, the ATR's win hands down for me. I use them regularly offroad on pipeline routes and haven't really had an issue with them, other than deep mud. The GG has a more visibly aggressive pattern than the ATR and I must admit I was tempted to try them, but in the end scored an incredibly cheap set of ATR's so went that way again.

Dirty3

3rd October 2011, 10:52 AM

Hi Neil

I take it that the GG is avalable as both AT & AT2 in 255/60-18. What price difference & which outlet were you at.

Also looking at the data you provided it may appear thet the AT is better. Whats your idea on that.

Gary

GAry,

Not sure what price but as Chuck was quoted @
$268 there abouts, I'm also going to get a quote. They do look chunkier than the AT2's (more open tread with bigger lugs), so I will consider them, but not ready to replace all 4 tyres yet, just 1 neesd replacing.
I agree the data does look good on them. I am getting the AT2 from JaxQuikfit in Caulfield Sth. But as they supplied the wrong one (AT) they fitted it as my spare till the correct one (AT2) comes in. So yes, available in 255/60/18.

Cheers Neil.

Dirty3

3rd October 2011, 10:57 AM

Thanks Mike.

I'm keen to try the new AT out, but as I only need one replaced sticking with the AT2. I'v so far done 43,000km's on them and about down to 60-70% so i'm reasonably happy to date and they have been good on wet roads, snow and mud. Great on dry rocks & ruts. Just don't like clay, but not many tyres do.

Welcome to Melbourne when you get here! It's a great city if you haven't been here before. But I am slightly biased - born & bred here!! Hope you enjoy it.

Cheers,
Neil.

boofdtl

3rd October 2011, 11:38 AM

I have a set of GG AT/2 in 265/75/16 waiting on the red wall ones to come in my work then they are going on but the at2 are a top tyre..

33chinacars

3rd October 2011, 11:45 AM

Thanks all for the great reply's. Was going to go for AT2 but the newer AT looks interesting to. There going to be fitted as a second set of tyres to my L322 as an round Aus tyre. Local prices $380 so may have to organize something in the big town -Melb.

Gary

adzee

3rd October 2011, 09:58 PM

I think I will be investigating this instead of the AT2's... Like the look of em. How much has been quoted per wheel?

DiscoWeb

5th October 2011, 07:59 AM

Looking at the site linked in the 3rd post the tread pattern on the new AT looks a lot like the Pirrelli ATR.

If they can be sourced at sub $300 per tyre they are pretty well priced compared to most alternatives I am aware of, looks like an interesting alternative.

George

Dirty3

10th October 2011, 10:44 AM

Finally got the price from Tyre dealer yesterday for the NEW GG AT.

He quoted $299.00 each fitted & balanced.

Got my replacement GG AT2 for $295 fitted. $65.00 better than last June when I had 5 fitted.

So, depending on how the new ones perform, I will give them a go when I need to replace all 5 sometime next year. I've done 41000km's so far in 18 months, so I reckon I'll get 80,000 out of the originals. So not bad. Unless someone comes up with more size options.......??

Cheers, Neil.

bvs

14th October 2011, 10:54 AM

I bought 2 x GG AT's the other day from Tyrepower Artarmon (Sydney) to fit the standard 18 inch D3 rims. $285 each (inc fitting and balancing).

The General Tires website has a list of suppliers. Tyrepower Artarmon being one of them.

I took the D3 on a distance trip on the long weekend. No noticible difference in noise or steering feel from the original rubber. All positive at the moment.

adzee

14th October 2011, 11:18 AM

What sizing for the GG AT's did you get? Are you sure it isn't AT2's which is different to this topic?

bvs

14th October 2011, 12:00 PM

They are definitely AT's, not AT2's.

Size is the standard 255/60R18 with an H speed rating and a load rating of 112.

adzee

14th October 2011, 12:29 PM

great news, was going to get at2's from boof, but may wait and see if he gets any further informations.

boofdtl

14th October 2011, 01:41 PM

Looking in the general book they dont do a AT in a 255/60/18 they only do a AT2 and there is none in stock until mid next month...

bvs

14th October 2011, 05:05 PM

Well I'll be. Either I'm dreaming, or the book is out of date :).

Mmm, the tyre definitely says General Grabber, 255/60 R18 112H

You will find reference to this tyre on the Generaltire.eu website. For some reason AT is not really covered on the au website.

<http://www.generaltire.eu/generator/www/com/en/generaltire/automobile/themes/4x4_tyres/rough/grabber-at/grabber-at.html>

<http://www.generaltire.eu/generator/www/com/en/generaltire/automobile/themes/4x4_tyres/rough/grabber-at/details/grabber-at-sizes.html>

It's what i recently bought in Sydney.

33chinacars

15th October 2011, 12:39 AM

Check first post of tread

Both GG AT & AT2 in 255/60-18

Not sure on avalability

Gary

~Rich~

7th November 2011, 04:30 PM

DiscoWeb

7th November 2011, 05:17 PM

I just had some 255 / 55 R19's fitted @ $297 each.
Look the goods for a all terrain tyre.

~Rich~,

What tyres are they ?

George

boofdtl

7th November 2011, 05:24 PM

I just had some 255 / 55 R19's fitted @ $297 each.
Look the goods for a all terrain tyre.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/02/456.jpg

The only thing I noticed so far is that one tyre required 200g of weights to balance!
While another needed only 30g!!!
Guess which one is on the back?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/11/839.jpg https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/11/840.jpg

My Wranglers had 3 - 4mm left and where wandering all over the place and I didn't have too much confidence in the wet.
Glad to get rid of them!

Mate how did they balance them?
They should have used fingers to balance them up if not they are not doing the job right.
The tyre should not go out with that much weight i would have sent it back for a calim and got a new tyre we have had some at work and i send them back thats not good work...

boofdtl

7th November 2011, 05:28 PM

If they want to bring the weight down they sould spin the tyre 180 on the rim and some times it brings the weight down.
If you are in melb send me a pm and i will give you my info and i will fix for you mate..

~Rich~

7th November 2011, 06:58 PM

~Rich~,

What tyres are they ?

George

General Grabber AT, the title of the tread may of given you a hint. ;)
255 / 55 R19.

Mate how did they balance them?
They should have used fingers to balance them up if not they are not doing the job right.
The tyre should not go out with that much weight i would have sent it back for a calim and got a new tyre we have had some at work and i send them back thats not good work...

If they want to bring the weight down they sould spin the tyre 180 on the rim and some times it brings the weight down.
If you are in melb send me a pm and i will give you my info and i will fix for you mate..

Thank boofdtl, I'm in Sydney.
Should I make it a point with the tyre supplier to try to minimize the weights? That particular wheel has 120g as per the picture and 80g opposite on the inside edge of the rim.
Rich.

boofdtl

7th November 2011, 07:03 PM

For shore mate they should be albe to it.
What you need to ask is how they balanced them if done with a front mount cone NO GOOD all 4wds should be done by finger plates.
Get them to spin the tyre on the rim as well most of the time it brings the weight down if they say no then they dont give a s... and g to some one who will
do it..

DiscoWeb

8th November 2011, 07:53 AM

General Grabber AT, the title of the tread may of given you a hint. ;)
255 / 55 R19.

Thanks Rich,

I did work that out :bangin:(after posting) but they just look so different to the normal Grabber AT profile it threw me for a while.

George

adzee

9th November 2011, 12:15 AM

Mate how did they balance them?
They should have used fingers to balance them up if not they are not doing the job right.
The tyre should not go out with that much weight i would have sent it back for a calim and got a new tyre we have had some at work and i send them back thats not good work...

So boof, are you saying you can now get the AT's? I still haven't organised tyres yet, and probably won't for another few months, but if thats the case I will be seeing you when the CC is empty. ;)

boofdtl

9th November 2011, 12:48 PM

So boof, are you saying you can now get the AT's? I still haven't organised tyres yet, and probably won't for another few months, but if thats the case I will be seeing you when the CC is empty. ;)

no probs mate catch up soon

boofdtl

9th November 2011, 12:58 PM

They are on the way just spoke to continental and i will have them at the end of the month will post up when in stock for you guys...

~Rich~

10th November 2011, 03:39 PM

The tyre has been rotated 180 degrees.
Now down to 130g of weights.
The guy did say he thinks the rim is out a bit.
They did not balance using fingers, just the centre hole unfortunately.

boofdtl

10th November 2011, 05:33 PM

The tyre has been rotated 180 degrees.
Now down to 130g of weights.
The guy did say he thinks the rim is out a bit.
They did not balance using fingers, just the centre hole unfortunately.

That a bit better so you know for next what to look for glad it work out for you.

~Rich~

12th November 2011, 04:14 PM

Now that I have these tyres fitted I have 1 x Goodyear Wrangler 255 / 55 R19 for sale.
It is in perfect condition, it has been only on the spare.
It even has the "Pimples & Hairs" on the edges of the tread.
I was quoted $520 each to fit these, asking $200.
I'm located Sydney / Northern Beaches and work in Nth Ryde.

boofdtl

28th November 2011, 09:32 AM

Just fitted a new set of GG AT in a 255/55/19 to a new D4 to day here are some pics..
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/boofdtl/100_1755.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

boofdtl

28th November 2011, 09:34 AM

This how much should be on a new tyre if done right..
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

adzee

28th November 2011, 09:51 AM

I LIKE!:cool:

Mike_S

28th November 2011, 11:02 AM

Boof, where in Vic are you ? I've got a tyre on SWMBO's Focus XR5 with a nail in it I need fixing :(

boofdtl

28th November 2011, 11:20 AM

PM SENT MIKE

PCH

28th November 2011, 01:06 PM

Hi All,

This is not a paid advert for the guys at Tyrepower Camberwell.

I had 5 GG AT's fitted this morning at the above Tyrepower outlet and all I can say is that they have my business from now on. Service is top notch and the guys very friendly and the price is very reasonable. I was also given an Ironman 8000kg snap strap for a set of 4WD tyres.

Boofdtl explained to me how rims and tyres should be balanced and showed me how he does it in their very neat and clean workshop. The proof is in the pudding - the D4 has absolutely no steering wheel wobble at freeway speed unlike the LR factory fitted tyres.

Also noted that the GG AT's are just as quite as the GY Wranglers that just came off which was another important point for me.

Thanks again :D

Chris

sniegy

28th November 2011, 01:10 PM

MMMM still all shiny....:):):)
Permagrin

Tombie

28th November 2011, 02:01 PM

MMMM still all shiny....:):):)
Permagrin

But has it been offroad yet? :cool:

PCH

28th November 2011, 02:51 PM

But has it been offroad yet? :cool:

Been too busy waxing it :).

sniegy

28th November 2011, 02:54 PM

Cheeks sore yet :)

Tombie

28th November 2011, 02:59 PM

Been too busy waxing it :).

But what about the D4 :angel::wasntme:

boofdtl

29th November 2011, 09:32 AM

Hi guys just let all you guys know there is stock now of GG AT2 in the size of 255/60/18 ...
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/boofdtl/100_1758.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/boofdtl/100_1760.jpg

boofdtl

29th November 2011, 12:50 PM

Just fitted them up and look good..
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/boofdtl/100_1762.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/boofdtl/100_1761.jpg

33chinacars

29th November 2011, 02:42 PM

:thumbsup:

D3mike

29th November 2011, 06:32 PM

Yes that's my D3 with the AT2s in the most recent post. Thanks Tyrepower Camberwell. As Chris said with his D4 and ATs: service was great, and informed of every step of the install, including me checking the alloy wheel before the tyre went on to check out how the bead sat in the rim (campared to the new alloy Deefer rims with raised rim at valve stems). Also given tips on tyre removal in bush, valves and pressures. And the snatch strap that came with the tyre deal was also appreciated!

Looking forward to Tallarook this week end on my new AT2s and will try out the airport runway track (I think thats the name).

Thanks again Tyrepower Camberwell

D3mike

Mike_S

29th November 2011, 08:43 PM

Seems to have been the day for it at Tyrepower !

I must've just missed the D3 having the tyres done, but I took SWMBO's Focus XR5 down there today for a nail to be removed out of the rear tyre (car's only 2 months old). Great job on the repair and full marks for noticing the tyres were scrubbing off the edges. One full alignment later and the car drives like a dream, way better than it has done since we bought it and doesn't tramling anywhere near as badlyy as it did before.

Top chaps, top service, highly recommended :BigThumb:

DiscoWeb

30th November 2011, 10:12 AM

Hi guys just let all you guys know there is stock now of GG AT2 in the size of 255/60/18 ...
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/boofdtl/100_1759.jpg

boofdtl,

Are these the older style GG AT's as they look different to the ones fitted to the white D4 a few posts earlier ?

George

101RRS

30th November 2011, 10:20 AM

boofdtl,

Are these the older style GG AT's as they look different to the ones fitted to the white D4 a few posts earlier ?

George

The tyres above are GG AT2, the ones on the white disco are GG AT.

Garry

boofdtl

30th November 2011, 10:21 AM

The ones on the white D4 are GGAT.
The ones on the brown D3 are GGAT2.

boofdtl

1st December 2011, 01:19 PM

Just to let you guys know that i now have more stock of 255/60/18 GG AT
AND 255/55/19 GG AT got GG AT2 coming in 16 18

Meccles

2nd December 2011, 08:32 PM

Thanks bootfid for the advice the other day. I have 4 x 275/40 R20 General Grabber ATs on order from UK. Will post when they arrive total cost etc. To date cheaper than Cooper Zeon 275/45 R20, which unfortunately are an illegal fit in QLD. To go onto a TDV8 RRS. I have totaled one Hankook Ventus ST already.

boofdtl

2nd December 2011, 10:02 PM

Meccles

14th December 2011, 12:10 PM

Ok ordered tyres last Tuesday, delivered this Tuesday. Cost delievered was $1500.
I am not at home (at work until after Xmas) but my wife says all arrived in good condition, no issues. Outfit I used was Alloywheels.com in UK (Rochford tyres) no issues with them. Looking forward to seeing how they are. Re cost, while not exactly cheap certainly better than Conti's and very competive with Cooper Zeons 275/45 R20, which I was concerned about wrt to warranty/legal issues. Local ARB offered my a "great" deal on Coopers at 475 per tire fitted. Tyrepower quoted around 350-375.
So hopefully should have a good tire, at reasonable price, of correct size/rating, in A/T for my RRS.

101RRS

15th December 2011, 11:23 PM

In the General Tire AT brochure listed in the original post this page Untitled 4 (http://www.ajstyres.co.uk/the_new_general_AT/Pages/31.html) lists a 265/60 R18 and a 265/65 R18 LT. Does anyone know if these sizes are available in Aust?

Each time I have asked a General Tire dealer they have indicated that only the 255/60 R18 version is available.

Oh what does OWL mean after the tyre size??

Thanks

Garry

boofdtl

16th December 2011, 09:13 AM

Tombie

16th December 2011, 09:41 AM

OWL is Outlined White Lettering

lrdef110

21st December 2011, 07:16 PM

Just completed 18 days through the Vic High Country on a set of 19" GG AT tyres, knocking up a total of 1479.2 kms on high country tracks including Lake Cobbler, Monument, Mt Stirling, Bluff, King Billly , Butcher Country, Zeka Spur, Wonnangatta, Wombat Range, Billy Goat Bluff, Junction Spur, Crooked River, Basalt Knob, Blue Rag Range, Davies Plain, Mt Pinnibar, Mt Gibbo, Mt Anderson & Wombat Creek Tracks. Some of these are very rocky or have sharp shale outcrops. I ran the tyres at 25psi and we were fully loaded with all our gear for the whole duration. On day 16 coming off Mt Gibbo I ended up with a small tear in a sidewall which is fixable. Overall the tyres were pretty impressive considering what they were asked to do because on 19" rims there is not a lot of sidewall left at 25psi. The sides looked like they have been sandpapered but there are no chips out of the treads. I was travelling with a D3 with 17" Goodyear MTR's and the rocks wore through the side walls into the white casing on 3 of these. The rim protector ribs on the GG AT's did a pretty good job too, as I only have slight abrasions on one rim. I was very skeptical about how these tyres would go given the nature of these tracks (I carried 2 spares) but have to say they performed extremely well.
Cheers.

Meccles

31st December 2011, 08:20 AM

Just got home and walked into garage - wrong tires delivered from UK. I ordered 275/40 R 20 A/T General Grabbers from Alloywheels.com (Rochford Tyres). They delivered 275/40 R20 UHP General Grabbers. Totally the wrong tyre. They had the correct ones in stock, but did not read the order correctly. This is Paypal dispute, I have requested return/full refund as am not interested in on selling or keeping these. So the first adventure into online tyre purchasing has been less than successful. Lucky I don't need the tyres in a hurry!
:(

Tombie

31st December 2011, 03:15 PM

And therein lies the benefits of shopping local...

Hope yours is all sorted soon.

"Where the Desert meets the Sea"
'Did I mention some great 4WDriving is just 5 minutes from home?'

Meccles

1st January 2012, 06:44 AM

Agree.....if you can buy them locally. They do not bring this size General Grabber in All Terrain in Australia, if you want them you are forced into buying them O/S and importing them yourself. Very poor of the distributors. This tyre is ideal for Australia yet they only sell it in Europe/UK.:(

Robocop

1st January 2012, 09:20 AM

My local tyre power dealer told me he could do a one off or special order of the GG all terrain however it wouldn't be ordered until January (now) and wouldn't arrive until May/June. I did ask for a price for 5 but haven't heard back yet, I expect it to be frightening..

Graeme

1st January 2012, 09:23 AM

wrong tires delivered from UK.When I was buying tyres from Tirerack I thought they were going overboard in verifying that the tyres they were about to send were indeed what I wanted, with their ordering people confirming my order then the picking/despatch confirming after picking, but accidents can still happen. I hope it gets sorted without fuss.

Graeme

1st January 2012, 09:29 AM

if you want them you are forced into buying them O/S and importing them yourself. Very poor of the distributors.
A few years ago I enquired about having an MTR size brought in by GY because they decided not to sell that size in Oz anymore (225/75-16). Their estimate of the cost was horrific and delivery time could easily be as much as 6 months because they would only put them in the container if there was room after all the standard Oz sizes were loaded. I bought something else.

Meccles

1st January 2012, 08:45 PM

I went to Tirerack first, however they don't stock the GG in A/T in that size in the US. It is Europe only. The actual cost is ok, delivery time was fast, just they didn't read the order correctly. And, unfortunately, in their correspondence back to me, all they did was confirm my order, not actually list what they were sending. They have indicated that they will accept return/full refund which is what I am going for. Lets see what happens. As FYI the GG UHP have much thicker sidewall than the Hankooks currently on the car. Seem a much tougher tire. So would be really interesting if I had got the right ones!;)

chuck

2nd January 2012, 12:20 AM

I did the same - contacted Goodyear Australia regarding a tyre (Duramax AT) not listed for sale here but freely available in the USA.

Was told it would be six months with horrendous freight costs for standard sea freight.

With service like that it is no wonder people are buying over the internet.

Cheers

Chuck

CSBrisie

3rd January 2012, 12:21 PM

All, I'm having trouble getting 4 of the above - anyone know a dealer with some in stock (now) - have been told orders wont be filled until 26 Jan and I want them before then.
cheers

boofdtl

3rd January 2012, 08:07 PM

All, I'm having trouble getting 4 of the above - anyone know a dealer with some in stock (now) - have been told orders wont be filled until 26 Jan and I want them before then.
cheers

If you feel like a drtive i have a set in stock and can fit up on monday the 9th when i am back at work..

Also sent a PM..

Sadie

4th January 2012, 12:27 PM

Hi Stornoway.

I've just dropped in to a couple of retailers in Slacks Creek, Sth Brisbane.

Jax can do them for about $310 per tyre, but the closest they have them in stock is Mackay, where there's apparently 4.

Bob Jane quoted $366 per tyre and reckon they could fit them tomorrow, although the guy did say that without checking on availability..

I'm going to wait until I get back home to Canberra and see if I can find a decent supplier there at a reasonable price..

Steve

101RRS

4th January 2012, 12:39 PM

I'm going to wait until I get back home to Canberra and see if I can find a decent supplier there at a reasonable price..

Steve

Jax at Belconnen quoted me $265 fitted just before Xmas. However Jax did not know they actually sold them and they may have got confused between Ats and At2s - but in either case the price is good.

Garry

Sadie

4th January 2012, 01:27 PM

Thanks Garry, I'll check them out when I get back. I'm not sure that I really care too much whether I get the AT's or AT2's. I'm actually a bit confused as to which is which. :( Are the AT's the more 'road-like' ones, and the AT's more 'off-roady'??

Garry do you know if Jax are able to balance/fit properly, as Booftdl mentioned earlier in this thread?

Steve

101RRS

4th January 2012, 01:42 PM

As I understand it the AT is a replacement for the AT2 but the AT2 is still available. According to General Tires the AT is slightly more capable offroad than the AT2 but to my untrained eyes has a more road looking tread.

Untitled 1 (http://www.ajstyres.co.uk/the_new_general_AT/Pages/1.html)

Re balancing - no idea but I have never had a problem with fitting and balancing for my tyres at any tyre dealer.

Garry

33chinacars

4th January 2012, 04:18 PM

First there G.G. AT. Then came G.G. AT2. More aggresive style tread. Original G.G. AT STOPPED. NEWG.G. AT ( Same name as original tyre but completly different) introduced. Reading from G.G. charts new AT better that AT2 all round in all areas. Quieter on road to meet european standards. Diamond style tread. Altho AT2 looks to have a better tread for offroad not so according to G.G. tests ??. Either would do me. Both AT & AT2 are still available

Gary

Sadie

4th January 2012, 07:45 PM

Thanks Gary. That kind of clears it up for me. Like you, I don't really care what I get. They're probably both better than the originals that I have at the moment...

boofdtl

4th January 2012, 08:00 PM

Yes the AT2 is out there its going to be at least a year i have been told before they stop making them....

~Rich~

12th January 2012, 08:22 PM

Heh Boof and all,
Are the GG AT tyres pretty tough?
Are they particularly weak anywhere in construction.

Graeme

12th January 2012, 08:40 PM

Baz has some very recent unwelcome experiences with 18" AT2 on his new D4.

~Rich~

13th January 2012, 09:13 AM

Thanks Graeme yes I read that, as with all tyres a lot depends on tyre pressures, speed and terrain.

I was after an educated opinion on the construction of the AT thinking that Boof would know a bit more of the technical properties of the tyre comparing it to other brands.

In particular side wall strength and ply direction as this makes a difference.

Mike_S

13th January 2012, 09:18 AM

Try messaging Andy at AJS tyres on the Disco3.co.uk forum, he's mentioned the construction of them before.

Graeme

13th January 2012, 09:50 AM

Thanks Graeme yes I read that, as with all tyres a lot depends on tyre pressures, speed and terrain.Sorry, I hadn't realised it was old news, thinking the problems had only occurred in the last several days but AT2 anyway.

boofdtl

13th January 2012, 10:03 AM

The side wall on the GGAT and AT2 in no were as strong as say a BFG but in say that tyre pres does play a big part in it..
Also you can tear a side wall on any tyre if its in the right spot..
You must also look at speed and load rates also play a big part in the tyres construction..
Will get all the specs for the GG and post the up..

adzee

16th January 2012, 05:38 PM

From what I have read and understand, they are two ply sidewalls, but as thick/strong as coopers 3 ply.
Just what I have understood.

chuck

16th January 2012, 09:05 PM

Dirty3

18th January 2012, 08:23 AM

[QUOTE According to General Tires the AT is slightly more capable offroad than the AT2 but to my untrained eyes has a more road looking tread.
Garry[/QUOTE]

Interesting how over the years our eyes have been trained to recognise an off road tyre style.
Yet many of the tyre manufacturers are now changing the tread patterns and our eyes believe them to be road biased. But with computer aided technology for design and simulation, there is no reason to suggest that these NEW style tyres will perform worse than traditional off road tyres is there? New rubber compounds/blends and construction have a big part to play these days.
BFG went away from the old mud terrain for a more block style arrangement yet they seem to be better performers than the old one. GG also have a racing style off road tyre that look awesome, but not available in the sizes we need.

boofdtl

18th January 2012, 08:59 AM

Boof

Have the 265 x 60 x 18 GG AT's arrived yet.

Would you have any concerns regarding that they are not XL rated.

The 15mm extra diameter & 10mm width would be useful as well as legal.

Regards

Chuck

As far as i know they are only doing the HTS in that size in the AT OR AT2 they are doing 255/60/18..

boofdtl

18th January 2012, 09:04 AM

[QUOTE According to General Tires the AT is slightly more capable offroad than the AT2 but to my untrained eyes has a more road looking tread.
Garry

Interesting how over the years our eyes have been trained to recognise an off road tyre style.
Yet many of the tyre manufacturers are now changing the tread patterns and our eyes believe them to be road biased. But with computer aided technology for design and simulation, there is no reason to suggest that these NEW style tyres will perform worse than traditional off road tyres is there? New rubber compounds/blends and construction have a big part to play these days.
BFG went away from the old mud terrain for a more block style arrangement yet they seem to be better performers than the old one. GG also have a racing style off road tyre that look awesome, but not available in the sizes we need.[/QUOTE]

Yeh the tyre you are talking about is the General Grabber with the red wall writing on the side wall there is a long wait to get them about 2mths back order they are very hot in the states at this time...

101RRS

12th February 2012, 08:46 PM

Has anyone fitted the 265/70 R 18 version of the General Grabber AT2 (and I guess the AT) to their D3? If so, how have you found them?

The Opposite Lock D3 at the Queanbeyan 4wd show had them fitted and they certainly looked the goods - the OL guy said he could get to access height with out major rubbing but he said they had taken the hot air gun to the plastic rear inner wheel well shielding so they would not rub but otherwise no issues. The front inner guards had also taken a little damage but they were not screwed down and when driving the air flow would have pushed them back onto the tyre.

The GGs fitted to the car had suffered some chipping but the OL guy said that was to expected given where the car had been taken - not sure where but the chipping was relatively minor.

Garry

101RRS

20th February 2012, 03:26 PM

Hmm - no response so I guess not.

This is how they look on the D3 at onroad height. Not a lot of clearance but is enough.

Garry

gghaggis

20th February 2012, 04:02 PM

101RRS

20th February 2012, 04:48 PM

Re 265/70R18's

I doubt the car would be drivable without mods. My 275/65R18 are a smaller diameter and yes, the car will drop to access and is drivable at slow speeds.

However, at road speeds the tyres rub badly around corners, bumps etc, so I have to use the shortened rods.

Cheers,

Gordon

This car above has no suspension mods and is certainly drivable - driving from Sydney for the 4wd show and is used offroad (as evidenced by the chipping on the tyre). The owner said that there was no rubbing but he did say he took a hair dryer to the inner guard plastic and pushed it in where it tended to stick out.

Maybe the GG in this size is a small tyre for its size.

Garry

gghaggis

20th February 2012, 05:10 PM

as evidenced by the chipping on the tyre

Sure that's not chipping from the tyre hitting the wheel well?

Maybe the GG in this size is a small tyre for its size.
Garry

Could be - I'd also note that my 275/65R18's are MT's, hence quite aggressive tread pattern that might require more clearance than an AT.

Cheers,

Gordon

101RRS

20th February 2012, 06:00 PM

Thanks for the comments - all noted. Chipping is from rocks and is across the tread.

Curious though why no one else has used this size GGs - there is obviously a reason.

Cheers

Garry

Oh - got the air compressor bracket - thanks - haven't put it in yet.

Lotz-A-Landies

22nd February 2012, 12:04 PM

boofdtl

22nd February 2012, 12:11 PM

Was hoping to get a decent tread pattern on my new D4 purchase, would be happy with the General Grabber AT2 but it seems that they dont exist.

Without changing to 18" rims what 255/55 19" tyres can I request in a D4 TDV6 3.0?

They do a GG AT in a 255/55/19 and in a 255/60/18 they are not going to be bring in the AT2 by next this is what i have been told because they are going to be making a new mud tyre......

~Rich~

22nd February 2012, 12:20 PM

what i have been told because they are going to be making a new mud tyre......

Cool :)

Lotz-A-Landies

22nd February 2012, 12:27 PM

If I want to catch the Main Event sale I have to have it delivered by the 29th.

The GG AT looks like a soft roader tyre pattern to me.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Graeme

22nd February 2012, 06:52 PM

Was hoping to get a decent tread pattern on my new D4 purchase ..... what 255/55 19" tyres can I request in a D4 TDV6 3.0?
My dealer wouldn't change tyres on my D4 pre-sale, which I understood to be a LR ruling to dealers. I had to drive it up the road immediately after pickup to trade-in the tyres.

Lotz-A-Landies

22nd February 2012, 07:27 PM

My dealer wouldn't change tyres on my D4 pre-sale, which I understood to be a LR ruling to dealers. I had to drive it up the road immediately after pickup to trade-in the tyres.It seems to be much the same except that they do the driving up the road, although it will depend upon the leasing company which dealer I use.

The one saving grace is that there are fery few vehicles in the country without black trim and an eDiff, so to supply a car before the 29th they are limited in dealer choices and I am limited in the specs I can get. So rear air/tech pack/keyless entry may be out. :(

Now its up to the salary packaging office and the leasing companies to come through before the 29th.

Platypus

22nd February 2012, 10:06 PM

Hooray at last, I heard yesterday that mine had arrived at dealer which was almost exactly (slightly better) than their ETA when I ordered. At ordering we negotiated AT tyres and towing kit as part of the deal and they'll be fitted by the dealer ready for when we take delivery. I believe they'll be Contis that have been specially imported to fit 19" rims. I won't know exactly what until then. Meanwhile 10 more sleeps.

Disco4SE

23rd February 2012, 03:39 AM

If I want to catch the Main Event sale I have to have it delivered by the 29th.

The GG AT looks like a soft roader tyre pattern to me.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
Don't be fooled by the look of the tread pattern.
I have Pirelli ATR's and are often surprised at where they get me.... and they are less aggresive than the GG.

Cheers, Craig

33chinacars

23rd February 2012, 12:26 PM

If I want to catch the Main Event sale I have to have it delivered by the 29th.

The GG AT looks like a soft roader tyre pattern to me.

http://www.roughtrax4x4.com/media.php?file=4054

Reading from the GG website the new AT is better allround that the AT2. Just doesn't look like it

Gary

~Rich~

23rd February 2012, 12:32 PM

Looks better in real life:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/02/456.jpg

101RRS

23rd February 2012, 01:35 PM

Reading from the GG website the new AT is better allround that the AT2. Just doesn't look like it

Gary

That is the problem - so far it is only the makers saying they are better - I have not as yet seen any independent reports on whether they are in fact better or it is just marketing hype - they certainly look less aggressive than the AT2.

Garry

boofdtl

23rd February 2012, 01:39 PM

That is the problem - so far it is only the makers saying they are better - I have not as yet seen any independent reports on whether they are in fact better or it is just marketing hype - they certainly look less aggressive than the AT2.

Garry

You wont thats why they are not making the AT2 any more..

gghaggis

23rd February 2012, 04:34 PM

A little while back, the Pirelli ATR won one of the magazine's AT tyre shoot-out, against some visually far more aggressive-looking tyres. So there's some truth to the claim that it's not just looks that determine the ability.

Cheers,

Gordon

CSBrisie

23rd February 2012, 05:03 PM

my wife tells me that Gordon. :p

Platypus

27th February 2012, 11:43 PM

When I ordered my D4 from ULR they offered AT tyres as I had said the vehicle would be used for its designated purpose. Vehicle is now ready for delivery and they (ULR) asked last week what tyres I'd like (cool!). So I mentioned both the Pirelli ATR and GG AT as both being well regarded on this forum. They said they'd look into it and today they said they'd fit the GG's as the Pirellis were a tad exxy for them to 'throw in'. So I'm Really looking forwards to Saturday.
Know where I can get some spray-on mud for the drive back down Malvern Road?:D
Just 5 more sleeps......
Paul

three1four2

8th March 2012, 07:55 PM

Replaced my Wranglers with the Grabber ATs today (and great service from the team at Tyrepower Camberwell :)). Agree with ~Rich~ ... they certainly look better on the D4 in real-life than in the promo pix. Off to the Vic high-country this weekend, and keen to see how they perform.
pi

oldsalt

9th March 2012, 07:42 AM

Have a good trip - looking forward to a full report and photos !!!!
cheers

Platypus

9th March 2012, 05:18 PM

Finally picked up new D4 (3.0) last Saturday. GG AT's fitted from new.
Managed to get the car dirty going up to Olinda (lots of rain and mud). Tyres are really good. Little noise, though I have nothing to compare pre/post noise wise.
Car handles and corners very well. Much better than GQ with BFG AT's on-road. I'm on-call this weekend :( so lots of Princes Highway mileage coming up (first call as I type this!) but very happy so far. 7.3l/100km on the way home (mind you, I had a little help from a Westerly;)).
Paul

LGM

9th March 2012, 05:35 PM

Gent's,

Tyres sound good thus far.

I will be on the hunt for replacement tyres in the next month or two and would like to know how much have you paid for these GG AT's?

Platypus

10th March 2012, 09:50 PM

Mine were negotiated at ordering time so nothing extra to pay. Also looked at the Pirelli Scorpions but considered too exxy.
Don't ask, don't get so no harm in asking.
Paul

three1four2

18th March 2012, 06:52 PM

ATs went well, although not extensively tested. Camped at Granny's Flat (near Jamieson - great vanilla slices at the cafe :)), and only got out one arvo on a couple of short tracks - Gallows and Ferguson, and D4/ATs didn't miss a beat (although a Pajero we encountered didn't fare as well!).
My impressions so far - a little noisier on the freeway (but not alarmingly so), D4 sits very well on the road, including in the wet, I expect marginally worse fuel economy, and they look great on.
I paid <$300/tyre, with the guys at TC well below other quotes.
pi

Sadie

22nd March 2012, 10:58 AM

101RRS

22nd March 2012, 11:06 AM

I had a look at the ATs the other day and thought they looked pretty tame - they look barely AT.

As far as weights - yes too much weight - the tyres should come off and be moved on the rim to minimise the amount of weight required.

Garry

boofdtl

22nd March 2012, 11:48 AM

Had my GG AT's fitted yesterday at my local JAX. They are WAY more aggressive looking than the Wranglers! I'm now looking forward to going offroad to check them out. :)

Should I worry that each wheel has a stack of weights to balance them? If so, why?

Mate that is bad what they need to do is spin the tyre on the rim to bring the weight down and balance them with flange plate fingers if there not doing this way its wrong .... If you are in melb bring to me and i will fix it for you it gets my goat up when they do a job and not give a **** at the end of the day.........

Sadie

22nd March 2012, 07:02 PM

boofdtl

22nd March 2012, 07:23 PM

Thanks booftdl, but I'm in Canberra, otherwise I would have come directly to you in the first place! ;)

I'll take it back to JAX next week and see what I can organise. Is there a reason why having that many weights is no good?? I'd like to sound at least a little bit as if I know what I'm talking about.... :(

Lots of time it can be a coulpe of things
1 The tyre is bad and they should send it back for warranty
2 They have no idea ie THE CARE FACTOR
What you need to say to them is that there is to much weight on the rims and you would like the tyre spun 180 on the rim not upside down but 180 around,
then ask them did they finger balance them ie FLANGE PLATE if not they are not 4x4 the right way because the hole in the rim is not true in round they are there for clearance on ALL 4x4s

brad72

26th March 2012, 07:47 PM

How would you guys compare the noise levels to the factory wranglers now you have a few km's on them

I can pick some up for $275 a corner but don't want a noisy highway drive since I do about 70/30 on/offroad.

Cheers

brad

go-disco4

26th March 2012, 09:30 PM

I have recently replaced my Wranglers with the new 255/60/18 AT on my Disco 4 2.7 L

had them up the Vic High Country over the Labour's Day weekend

Went up some steep muddy and slippery and rocky sections which needed some momentum! Also a very long muddy slippery downhill stretch.

Performed well, but noticed a few superficial linear cuts to the side wall of one tyre

On the blacktop at 100 to 110 km/hr, definitely slightly more hum than the wranglers with the windows closed. Windows opened, wind nosie completely drowns out the hum

Hum is minimal, noticeable but not intrusive

car handles well on blacktop no different from the wranglers

hope this helps

GD -4

three1four2

26th March 2012, 11:29 PM

Yes, noisier on the freeway, but not annoyingly so. Having driven a over a 1,000 km now, I think I notice it most when slowing down unbraked (ie foot off the accelerator) from high speed. But I also suspect I'm listening out for noise! Get a mate in, and there's no comment - he just loves the ride quality and comfort :)
pi

Platypus

27th March 2012, 10:23 PM

I've noticed a slight flutter-type whine at speed but I've also noticed that with higher tyre pressure it has reduced (I run them at 42 psi after trying them at 36psi) so not that noticeable most of the time. Careful driving I'm getting 7.1 l/100km indicated but averaging 9.5 - 10 l/100km measured brim to brim.
Paul

three1four2

9th April 2012, 08:04 PM

Hi, All
Another weekend in the high-country, again based at Granny's Flat ... must be the lure of the vanilla slices at Perkins & Grey cafe in nearby Jamieson :D.
Anyway, the General ATs did all that was asked of them. Definitely happy with them. The way I look at it, I'm now confident when off-road that the tyres are capable ... a confidence I didn't have with the Wranglers. Makes for much more enjoyable tripping off the made stuff.
pi

aferrier

11th April 2012, 10:19 AM

We just did 1200km over Easter after having the GG ATs fitted. Best upgrade! I'd even say that they're quieter on the road than the OEM Wranglers but buzz at a lower frequency, which makes them more noticable at first. Even my wife commented how much quieter they are around town.

Worked exceptionally well in the sand @ 20psi near Robe on Sunday too...

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/04/1089.jpg

Epic pooh

11th April 2012, 01:57 PM

Just ordered a set of 255/55 19 GG AT to replace scorpion zeros ... Ta to you all for the comments, will provide some further comments once they've done a few kms.

SBD4

11th April 2012, 06:09 PM

Me too. Ordered 5 GG AT 255x55R19 from from Jax at Artarmon $288/tyre. They are going on on Monday. Just clocked up 55K on the wranglers - they are getting a bit hairy in the wet now:eek: - lucky we've been having a bit of dry weather lately.

Nomad9

11th April 2012, 11:53 PM

Hi People,
Got my GG AT's a week last Saturday took them out for a run over Easter, got them for $275 each balanced and fitted, bought six so I got a good deal, I thnk. Very happy with them. One thing I did notice was that when towing with the CC on I was more susceptible to the traction control kicking in and knocking off the CC. I think I have to play around with tyre pressures, the rears were ten degrees warmer than the fronts at the end of the trip.
I've got the LR tank and the DW carrier, drawers and fridge so I have a lot of weight on the back, the old Cooper HT's plus tyres had a higher load rating and ran cooler but they punctured easily on gravel. I haven't run the GG's on gravel yet so I don't know, the tread looks better than the Coopers if thats worth anything.........

pohm66

12th April 2012, 02:09 PM

Nomad9, We recently completed "The Lap" towing a 2t single axle ATV caravan and the back of the D3 full of goodies. Ball weight approx 220kg

Found running the GGs 42psi rear and front 38psi on the highway gave me all round even wear on the tyres. Don't know about the temps though. Quite a few Ks on gravel and no punctures after dropping a few psi.

31,000ks on that trip and reckon have got an easy 70,000+ out of the set. Just about to get a fresh set order in the next week or 2.

Just had one rear wheel alignment issue that saw a tyre getting the flick due to excessive wear.

Drafrete

18th June 2012, 07:51 PM

Had new 19" (255/55/R19) General Grabber AT fitted today to replace the factory Goodyears on my new D4. Very happy after the drive home. Slightly different pitch road noise but still very quiet. And as others have noted they have a much more satisfactory pattern and side lugs for off road.

Have to say a really huge thank-you to the guys at Tyrepower Camberwell. They really look after you and take real pride in their work. I recommend them to others. Great prices too!:D

Tryanything

18th June 2012, 08:43 PM

Yep had mine (18s), fitted at TP Camberwell too, very happy with service there. Price good too. (no association just a happy customer).
Scott

kero

19th June 2012, 10:34 AM

Well Iam still waiting for prices for on some Nitto tyres. It's only been a couple of weeks.

boofdtl

19th June 2012, 11:01 AM

Well Iam still waiting for prices for on some Nitto tyres. It's only been a couple of weeks.

From who and what type and size?

Tote

20th June 2012, 08:31 PM

NITTO 255/60R18 112S TERRA GRAPPLER | NITTO TERRA GRAPPLER Tyre - OzzyTyres (http://www.ozzytyres.com.au/store/nitto-255-60r18-112s-terra-grappler.html)

$324 each, make sure you write a review on them.....

Regards,
Tote

Drafrete

7th July 2012, 08:22 PM

I have just got back from a trip from Melbourne to Dalhousie Springs on new GG AT tyres. I am very impressed.

The trip went from Melbourne, up the Oodnadatta track to Dalhousie Springs and then back through Coober Peedy. About 4,500k in all. I towed a Jayco camper the whole way.

I found the tyres really good across a range of surfaces. As I have the 55 profile 19" I was cautious about lowering the pressure too much and left them at 38 psi on all surfaces. They performed really well.

At one stage in deep sand near Mt Dare/ Dalhousie Springs I had to stop in a narrow track for an oncoming car. With the van on I thought that I was in trouble but the tyres lifted out of the deep sand really well.

They performed very well and heaps better than the wranglers that I had on my previous D3. I blew two of the wranglers on much lighter duty roads than this trip.

I certainly recommend them.

PeterOZ

25th July 2012, 11:26 AM

stealer is fitting a set of 255/60 R18 112V in AT tomorrow.

Was going to fit a set of the Scorpion Zeros again but tyre place can't get them for another week even though they told me they would be here tomorrow :eek:

stealer talked me into the General Grabbers AT so hope they work ok.

Edit: Now they say they do have them in stock so looks like the Zeros are going back on which is my preference.

Lotz-A-Landies

27th August 2012, 01:58 PM

Have now done 16K on the 19" GG AT and am very happy with the performance and wear so far. One question is about the noise, while not obtrusive I am having thoughts whether I have tyre noise or of concern is it diff noise?

The noise is a occillating pitch similar to that on my RRc when I had worn Michelin Synchrome nearing the end of their useful lives, the concern it is crownwheel noise.

Anyone else have a similar noise and with only one set of tyres how can I check it it's tyre or rear diff noise?

AnD3rew

27th August 2012, 02:13 PM

SBD4

27th August 2012, 02:48 PM

Diana, I have the same tyres and they have now done about 12k. I do notice a similar thing at very specific speed ranges ~40-50kph and ~95-105kph. it is almost like a whine most noticeable at the higher speeds. The noise is completely absent outside the ranges above. For me, it seems to come mostly from the front and I can feel some feed back through the steering wheel of similar vibration (not wheel balance or alignment type). Also, the noise is has that harmonic sort of sound you experience in twin engined aircraft where the engine are ever so slightly differing in RPM.

I have tried to ascertain if the noise is dependent on road surface or not (with out too much luck at this point). If it was then I would be more inclined to think the noise was more likely to be due to tyre noise than mechanical reasons.

I asked the dealer to investigate last week during the scheduled service but they refused on the basis that I have "knobby tyres" not the OEM ones.

I have resolved to try and pin it down before the next service.

Lotz-A-Landies

27th August 2012, 02:56 PM

Thanks Sean

I may ask my dealer about the issue as they arranged the tyres at initial purchase, so they should at least investigate! Maybe :(

I do get the noise more intense on certain surfaces and not at all on others, although it may be that I'm not focussed upon listening.

Diana

Duke4

27th August 2012, 06:07 PM

trif

27th August 2012, 06:55 PM

Have now done 16K on the 19" GG AT and am very happy with the performance and wear so far. One question is about the noise, while not obtrusive I am having thoughts whether I have tyre noise or of concern is it diff noise?

Hi Diana,

I've done 20,000 kms on my set of 19" GG AT and noticed a similar whine at high speed. Tread depth when new was 10mm (measured tyre centre) and is currently 7.5mm on a 5 tyre rotation. I wouldn't call the noise excessive. In fact the noise from my snorkel is worse. Tyre performance has been excellent and unless something new and spectacular hits the market in 19 inch l'll be purchasing a new set when then time comes. I suspect your differential is fine.

Regards Trif.

SBD4

27th August 2012, 06:55 PM

Ditto, except I only get it at the 95 - 105 range not too annoying but is worse on one stretch of the M4

Duke, I agree it's not that annoying. It's just that it is there and and not knowing the cause makes you wonder for the worst.

Which part of the M4 and do you have the GG ATs also? If not then maybe there is something mechanical going on.

101RRS

28th August 2012, 07:27 PM

I had my GG ATs (not AT2s) fitted today - the tread is a bit more aggressive than it looks in the pics as are the side biters.

I had D3 OEM Wranglers previously and these used to hum a bit - the GG ATs only make a low hum at 80kph (not as loud as the Wranglers) on smooth bitumen but on normal stuff I cannot hear them.

Price is good so I hope that they also perform well on and offroad.

When I arrived to get the tyres there was silver D3 with Vic plates getting a wheel alignment. I asked the tyre guy if the owner had TTM set and he indicated that it hadn't as it was not needed. I asked how they select the correct height for the alignment and how did they stop movement - they indicated they set the car at access height and lock it and do the alignment - hmmm not good.

As my tyres had been wearing well and evenly I decided not to get an alignment done and will watch wear carefully.

Garry

chuck

28th August 2012, 08:10 PM

I have the GG At's on my D4 & find them extremely quite.

They are much quieter than the MT ATZ's I had on the Prado & silent in comparison to the MTZ's on the D3.

Good grip on wet & dry bitumen.

They seem to clear mud well, because it all seems to end up on the side of my car after exiting our site access tracks during inclement weather.

Cheers

Chuck

Duke4

1st September 2012, 12:58 PM

Duke, I agree it's not that annoying. It's just that it is there and and not knowing the cause makes you wonder for the worst.

Which part of the M4 and do you have the GG ATs also? If not then maybe there is something mechanical going on.

I have the GG's it's not mechanical in my opinion because it alters with road surface I think it's just the tread pattern.
The stretch of the M4 is going west between Homebush and Silverwater right hand lane, produces noise and vibration, same speed going in the opposite direction is smooth and quiet. I now go outside that speed range on that stretch of road to avoid it.

Dirty3

5th September 2012, 09:13 PM

I have the GG's it's not mechanical in my opinion because it alters with road surface I think it's just the tread pattern.
The stretch of the M4 is going west between Homebush and Silverwater right hand lane, produces noise and vibration, same speed going in the opposite direction is smooth and quiet. I now go outside that speed range on that stretch of road to avoid it.

Sounds like it's just the surface roughness of the road that changes……maybe the type of concrete they used, might have more metal in it than on the other sections you don't get noise. Any AT tyre is going to have some difference to standard road tyres, that's a given. i have GG AT2's on for a couple of years now. Getting noisier as they get older….done 65000km. Changed 2 this week, so much better.

Felon

3rd November 2012, 05:56 PM

Hi Im new to the forum and have just purchased a HSE. Can anyone advise of the best price in Perth for the GG AT tyres in 19 inch?

Plane Fixer

3rd November 2012, 07:48 PM

If you are after an AT type of tyre I suggest you have a look at the Cooper Zeon LTZ.
I have so far put 25,000km on them and I have been to the Bungles and Chambers Pillar which are very bad roads and others and have had no problems.
There are people who have had problems with the GG.
The other tyre which gets a good wrap here is the Pirelli Scorpion AT.
Yes there are people who have strong opinions on tyres regardless, but for 19" wheels there is not much choice around in Oz yet, but I expect that will start to change rapidly soon.

Platypus

4th November 2012, 10:52 PM

I also am noticing increasing noise from front end at 90-100km on GG AT which were fitted from new. Had car in for 24000km service at MLR yesterday and they could not find any issues with front driveline and I suspect it's just wear but very little wear is evident on the tyres. I find it increasingly annoying, as the car started out so quiet and they are begining to sound (from the interior at least) like my old BFG MT's after 60000km! So I'm going to rotate them and see what effect it has on the noise. 90% of my driving is at or around 100kph so it's an issue!:(