IKEA - Cardboard Furniture!

[isuzurover]

Bought some (reasonably high end) drawers from that swedish company for the kitchen. Found out they were slightly too large and needed to be modified. Cut into them, only to find they were made of cardboard!!!

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[87County]

:D

commisserations - sorry it happened - but unfortunately "top end" and "ikea " hardly go together....(they're just saving money to make more profit)


I'm thinking you can either clean out part of the cardboard in the hollow and fit a piece of finishing timber -

- like a style or rail in a hollow-cored flush door (similar construction)

- alternatively clean off the finishing timber piece that was used (and no doubtedly still is in the part you sawed off) .... and refit it back into the hollow as a new finishing rail

...if you try this second alternative watch out for and remove pins/staples in the original timber - they'll rip your hands and chip your chisels.

[clubagreenie]

I'd quite enjoy modifying some Ikea really well so it won't assemble then calling their assembly team to come and help. Sit back with a few and watch.

[funkyfedaykin]

That's why its all so cheap! It still does the job though, and I hear it's pretty strong.

I still prefer Ikea stuff over plain laminated chipboard, but having said that I haven't tried introducing my Ikea furniture to generous amounts of water...

[loanrangie]

Ikea must be swedish for crap, some of their storage nic nacs are ok but i'd never buy any of their furniture.

[alexturner]

Ikea must be swedish for crap, some of their storage nic nacs are ok but i'd never buy any of their furniture.

Beds and some drawers are fine (nothing wrong with Ikea in a kid's room) but I don't think Ikea has a place in any kitchen.

[isuzurover]

I find Ikea a bit hit and miss. E.g. their hinges and rollers on most of their kitchens are top quality (Edit: Blum hinges - the best of the best apparently). A lot of their kitchen stuff is good too, however not designed to be fitted to a brick veneer or timber house...

I was quite surprised by the cardboard though... Guess it saves a lot of weight.

One thought was to remove the cardboard and fill the space with expanding foam ;)

[sheerluck]

I've found that with Ikea stuff you have to be very choosy. There is some stuff that is quite high end, and there is some that is terrible, and lucky to last a year.

We have some lounge furniture, a low level entertainment unit and a sideboard that came with us from Ikea UK, which has stood the test of time, and is 6 years old but looks like new.

However, we have had a few bookcases and bedside tables from Ikea here that have barely lasted 18 months before falling apart.

[It'sNotWorthComplaining!]

No different to Corinthian and Hume 4 or 6 panel doors, cardboard sandwiched between masonite panels

[stuee]

A lot of their kitchen stuff is good too, however not designed to be fitted to a brick veneer or timber house...


Edit*Scrap my previous comments.

Whats the issue with fitting to timber frames? Difficult to ensure cabinets fixed to studs?

[isuzurover]

Edit*Scrap my previous comments.

Whats the issue with fitting to timber frames? Difficult to ensure cabinets fixed to studs?

No, the backs of the cupboards are thin (non structural) masonite sheeting. They have only 2 metal tabs where you are supposed to mount them to the walls - which never lined up with the studs (at least on my house). Would be fine if you were mounting them to concrete or double brick though.

[woody]

I find Ikea a bit hit and miss. E.g. their hinges and rollers on most of their kitchens are top quality (Edit: Blum hinges - the best of the best apparently). A lot of their kitchen stuff is good too, however not designed to be fitted to a brick veneer or timber house...

I was quite surprised by the cardboard though... Guess it saves a lot of weight.

One thought was to remove the cardboard and fill the space with expanding foam ;)

we checked around before getting the Ikea Kitchen and their quality was better than most kits around even some that are more expensive. we got the heads up prior that you must be exact in the design phase as you can't alter the sizes from their standard range (no mean feat with a queenslander). The cabinets are made from waterproofed chipboard and come with a 20 yr structural warranty. We had a major leak when we blew the dishwasher hose that filled the adjacent cupboard with water, so far so good with no swelling of the chipboard. overall we're happy with our kitchen and saved about 70% over getting one built for us. but I suppose each to their own.

woody

[inside]

I can't fault their kitchens. Ours has copped a hiding over the last 4 years and still looks new. I can't complain about the savings either.

[jerryd]

I used Ikea drawers and units and then grafted handmade fronts to them, the drawer units are excellent quality with metal frames and roller bearings etc. At the time they were the best I could find and about $1500 cheaper than local suppliers. They get a :BigThumb: from me

[stuee]

No, the backs of the cupboards are thin (non structural) masonite sheeting. They have only 2 metal tabs where you are supposed to mount them to the walls - which never lined up with the studs (at least on my house). Would be fine if you were mounting them to concrete or double brick though.

Yeh fair call. I had some problems when I put mine up with hitting motar occasionally, but could simply move the metal tab up or down the cabinet a bit. Cant move them left or right though like you suggest.

[F4Phantom]

interior doors in houses all have cardboard, its very strong and light, I dont think you will have a problem with it. Ikea kitchen base cupboards are the best, so easy to put together, modify and work perfectly, Just go and get your own top made up.

[isuzurover]

interior doors in houses all have cardboard, its very strong and light...

Not my interior doors - they are Jarrah!

I agree that their kitchen stuff is good quality - especially the rollers and hinges. And certainly cheap - All our kitchen cupboards were less than $2k!

This was a drawer we bought to fill a space in the kitchen/pantry. Nothing in the kitchen range was the right size/shape, so it was from the rest of the range. Fortunately it is a long way from any of the wet areas!

[Lotz-A-Landies]

The thing I hate about IKEA is that no one can pronounce the product names! :D

ZD goes to IKEA for breakfast every Sunday, don't think they buy many cupboards just breakfast.

[uninformed]

I find Ikea a bit hit and miss. E.g. their hinges and rollers on most of their kitchens are top quality (Edit: Blum hinges - the best of the best apparently). A lot of their kitchen stuff is good too, however not designed to be fitted to a brick veneer or timber house...

I was quite surprised by the cardboard though... Guess it saves a lot of weight.

One thought was to remove the cardboard and fill the space with expanding foam ;)


Ben, while their hinges etc are Blum, they are a range made for Ikea.....so not the best of the best, but still ok.

Alot of custom cabinet made kitchens dont have alot of fixing into the wall studs, unless overhead units. And youd be suprised how many are 4mm back instead of 16mm......most rely on the kicks being levelled correctly and then the indivdual modualr sections screwed together side to side....the top of choice (ceasar stone etc) then fitted and chaulked to the walls...so its not like a shelf full of plates will make it fall forward away from the walls...

dont use expanding foam...will be painfull messy and probably get inconsistant expanding of the 4mm board. Get some 19mm finger jointed pine in the cloesest height, clean out enough carboard and its glue dags for the 19mm thick stuff to slip in. plane to height, cut to length and use a good external PVA glue, you can fix it in top and bottom with some little pannel pins (nails) if you have some scrap wood and clamps, clamp it up over night.

[Homestar]

I wouldn't know what Ikea stuff was like - they won't build a store North or West of the City!:mad: They built the first one in Richmond, then recently built an even bigger one 20 minutes down the road....

[Scouse]

They built the first one in Richmond, then recently built an even bigger one 20 minutes down the road....Which means the first one will probably close down if they do what they did in Sydney.

[Landy Smurf]

i love IKEA it is one of my favourite stores, they are not as good here though as in Sweden. there is some cheap not so good quality but look at the place it is so big it is meant for everybody and they certainly tick that box better then any other shop around.there displays are amazing and it is your one stop shop.and for those that are interested the price here on average is just 10% dearer then sweden aka gst

[jerryd]

I hear that Ikea is to build a new store on the North Lakes development alongside a new Costco store.

Should be able to buy twelve months supply of loo roll in a pack from Costco and then buy a cupboard from Ikea to keep it in :D

[jimb]

Fyi
I remember some kids doing a presentation on Ikea at school. Did you realize it is a non profit organization?
Bit confused by that and where their profits go but the original mission ststement was quite impressive.




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[blackbuttdisco]

Last week there was a doco on Ikea on the Megafactories program on TV, think it was on 7mate. Very impressive.

[Marshall]

The groups of companies that form IKEA are all controlled by INGKA Holding., a Dutch corporation, which in turn is controlled by a tax-exempt, not-for-profit Dutch foundation

[Landy Smurf]

there is 2 IKEAs in sydney one next to the airport(tempe) and one next to costco(i think it is near parramatta rd)

[Landy Smurf]

the biggest one in the southern hemishpere is tempe and it is 39,000 square metres and teh biggest in the world is in swedens capitol stockholm which is 55,000 square metres

[Landy Smurf]

IKEA products are identified by single word names. Most of the names are Scandinavian in origin. Although there are some notable exceptions, most product names are based on a special naming system developed by IKEA.[30]
Upholstered furniture, coffee tables, rattan furniture, bookshelves, media storage, doorknobs: Swedish placenames (for example: Klippan)
Beds, wardrobes, hall furniture: Norwegian place names
Dining tables and chairs: Finnish place names
Bookcase ranges: Occupations
Bathroom articles: Scandinavian lakes, rivers and bays
Kitchens: grammatical terms, sometimes also other names
Chairs, desks: men's names
Fabrics, curtains: women's names
Garden furniture: Swedish islands
Carpets: Danish place names
Lighting: terms from music, chemistry, meteorology, measures, weights, seasons, months, days, boats, nautical terms
Bedlinen, bed covers, pillows/cushions: flowers, plants, precious stones
Children's items: mammals, birds, adjectives
Curtain accessories: mathematical and geometrical terms
Kitchen utensils: foreign words, spices, herbs, fish, mushrooms, fruits or berries, functional descriptions
Boxes, wall decoration, pictures and frames, clocks: colloquial expressions, also Swedish place names

For example, DUKTIG (meaning: good, well-behaved) is a line of children's toys, OSLO is a name of a bed, BILLY (a Swedish masculine name) is a popular bookcase, DINERA (meaning: (to) dine) for tableware, KASSETT (meaning: cassette) for media storage. One range of office furniture is named EFFEKTIV (meaning: efficient, effective), SKÄRPT (meaning: sharp or clever) is a line of kitchen knives.

[Scouse]

there is 2 IKEAs in sydney one next to the airport(tempe) and one next to costco(i think it is near parramatta rd)Tempe & Rhodes.
Costco's in Lidcombe.

[Landy Smurf]

did there use to be an ikea next to a costco not long ago because i swear i went there

[Scouse]

I think you've been hanging around too many blue smurfs :).

They're sort of next to each other as it's just the entire Homebush Olympic site between them ;).

[clubagreenie]

IKEA products are identified by single word names.
Bookcase ranges: Occupations

Chairs, desks: men's names

BILLY (a Swedish masculine name) is a popular bookcase

This is in conflict

[Scouse]

Ha ha, you're too quick Cluba !!

[Landy Smurf]

i do remember now scouse yes they were ta 2 different locations i just thought they were next to each other because they were the only shops we went to that day (over a year ago)

[Landy Smurf]

my gf has ikea bookcases both big and small and she has them full of heavy books and they are still good one has a tv on top of it

[Landy Smurf]

and for those who are wondering no IKEA is nott paying me to make these statements