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djambalawa

8th October 2011, 03:53 PM

Hiya folks i've just broken an air fitting in a bog and i've limped in to adelaide rvr... The car has gone down low low and its ride is very rough - the tyres aren't quite rubbing...

On the dash i get a message sometimes saying "car will kift when systems cools" or something... So i'm worried the compressor is workng too hard blowing air...

Should i drive it home? Its about 100km of highway...

Any advice greatly appreciated :(

The fitting/hose was a the front left under the bullbar

WhiteD3

8th October 2011, 04:25 PM

I'd pull the fuse to the compressor and drive it home (slowly). But I'm a mechanical dunce so please don't listen to me.

Tank

8th October 2011, 04:49 PM

lewy

8th October 2011, 05:05 PM

when you get home come see me i have an emergency kit i can lend you till you fix yours. pm sent

p38arover

8th October 2011, 05:34 PM

Dunno if it is of any use but I think Mark066 lives in AR.

djambalawa

8th October 2011, 06:21 PM

Hi all thanks for the responses - pulling the fuse did the trick thanks and got me home. I had my nephew with me whos a mechanic and he reckoned it wasn't something he could fix up - although I did have duct tape with me... :)

It didn't seem too bad sitting on 80kmh - although a bit bumpy in sections I just took it easy... previous to that when I was limping home on the 4wd track trying not to bottom out it was pretty bad as the back end went really low for a bit for some reason... but from AR to Darwin it was just at its normal access height which was quite low enough but much better than it was...

roamer

8th October 2011, 06:35 PM

This makes me think about why I should have a GOE emergency air kit.
Don't know how duct tap would go with 250psi.

Cheers Ken

djambalawa

8th October 2011, 08:18 PM

This makes me think about why I should have a GOE emergency air kit.
Don't know how duct tap would go with 250psi.

Cheers Ken

Thanks Roamer just looked that up and looks worth it!

CaverD3

9th October 2011, 07:22 AM

What air fitting got busted?

Ashes

9th October 2011, 09:42 AM

Having had a pipe near the front rub through which meant pressure to the rear was lost whilst on a track near the snow line, a kit that can give some pressure directly to the air bags sounds like a great idea. I think with the D3/D4 and the air susp its a case of when, not if, before either a fitting or the compressor fails. Mine failed in a less than ideal spot but with some considerable help from rmp the car made its way back down.

Graeme

9th October 2011, 12:30 PM

This has reminded me to stash some spare truck 6 mm airline to go with the joiners I've been carrying.

NavyDiver

9th October 2011, 12:38 PM

Could you remove the fuse to stop the air comp..? it would be a very slow bouncey drive home:(

Edit- Sorry - I went to first post and for some reason could not see all the responses- glad you got home.

CaverD3

9th October 2011, 01:04 PM

6mm line and 'quick fit' joiners are an easy fix for airline that has gone.
Take a compressor with some in line valves and you could get the bags to inflate if the whole system goes tits-up. :D

bbyer

9th October 2011, 02:24 PM

This is a picture of the air brake John Guest 1/4" DOT all plastic tubing union. If you look closely, you can see the DOT imprinted in raised letters on the end of the fitting. This is of a 1/4" connector rather than the 6mm that required in the 3. I could not find a picture of the 6mm union but it looks pretty much the same.

The 6mm air suspension pneumatic repair union that Land Rover sells is Land Rover replacement part # STC8580 made by John Guest and looks similar to the jpg. The part number is from the RR Classic series.

The fitting is for 6mm OD tubing size. The STC8580 comes with what are called "Collets" at each end that cover up the press to release feature underneath. See the John Guest web site John Guest - The World Leader in Push-fit Fittings, Pipe and Plastic Plumbing Systems - Home (http://www.johnguest.com) under the Pneumatics section and also in Downloads for their catalog for install and remove instructions.

The actual air brake fitting that Land Rover provides has an interior 4mm OD ferrule that slips inside the 4mm ID of the nominal 6mm OD tubing. I have not yet been able to obtain the John Guest part number for the LR fitting, just the LR part number. These fittings or similar are good to have in your parts stock along with a few feet of the 6mm air line.

The 6mm tubing is a Nylon product specified as PA12. There is also a very similar Transport grade PA11 material, however it seems that PA12 is the more common Transport grade now in use. Also the applicable DIN standard seems to be both DIN 73378 and DIN 74324 for the nylon tubing. The working pressure of the 6mm tubing is about 27 Bar and bursting 82 Bar @ 20C. This is for the 1mm nominal wall thickness material, (4mm ID, 6mm OD). The tubing can generally be purchased at heavy truck repair shops that service EU manufactured prime movers such as Volvo, Mann and the like; also Hino.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/10/1073.jpg

Graeme

9th October 2011, 04:57 PM

..with some in line valves..
I haven't been successful in tracking down a supplier of these.

CaverD3

9th October 2011, 06:49 PM

Try Air and Hydlaulics in Brookvale.

bbyer

10th October 2011, 02:36 AM

General Pneumatics in Mordialloc Victoria has a selection of suitable brass metric push in fittings such as Tees etc; I have mail ordered from them as John Guest does not seem to make DOT /TUV metric tees, only the "straight" unions for Land Rover.

General Pneumatics Pty Ltd (http://www.generalpneumatics.com.au/html/s01_home/home.asp)

Graeme

10th October 2011, 06:13 AM

Schrader valves with 1/8" BSPT thread can be obtained from here.Ag Wholesalers | Farming Supplies | Schrader Valves | Southern Downs | Queensland Agricultural Supplies (http://www.agwholesalers.com.au/schrader-valves.html)

Dirty3

10th October 2011, 10:30 AM

Try these out for size - Legris
www.legris.com (http://www.legris.com)

They make a range of connectors for air lines and are avilable at good hose suppliers. Also you could try someone like the Hose Doctor or Enzed?
They surley will have these type of fittings in metric.

Dirty3

10th October 2011, 10:35 AM

Here's a link to part catalogue for connectors.
Cheers, Neil.

http://www.legris.com/jahia/webdav/site/legris/shared/BP/Documentation/LF3000_EN.pdf

bbyer

10th October 2011, 10:49 AM

The Legris and other food and industrial grade fittings are available as a Y which is particularly useful in some situations where one wants the third leg to run parallel to one of the other legs.

None of the DOT/TUV accepted air brake spec fittings seem to be available in the Y design. at least none that I had found. This is to me, unfortunate, as the internal 4mm ferrule and the heavier body design of the DOT/TUV spec is deemed to have some advantages.