Spare Key Required

[dwaters]

G,Day all, I just purchased a D3 TDV6 HSE 2006 model, but it only came with one key.
Does anyone know how I go about getting a spare key?
Cheers
Darren

[MelbD3]

I lost my spare key. After contacting numerous locksmiths in Melbourne I was informed that they cannot provide a spare key. The local LR dealer was only too happy to provide a spare key. I provided my vehicle details and credit card details and some almost three months later my new key arrived from the UK. When my car was next serviced the key was initialised. No problems.

MelbD3

[dwaters]

Thanks MelbD3.
Looks like I will be contacting my LR dealership.

[CaverD3]

You can get a blank key programed but it must never have been programmed before. Unused ones come up on fleabay ocasionally. Check the UK site for details.

[Ivan]

Just had to get 2 new keys for my D3 (have to come from LR in the UK so not sure how long I will have to wait). Ordered from the dealer and they are about $400 each!!! Thankfully they are being paid for by the warranty people.

Ivan

[dwaters]

G'Day Ivan, I didn't think I would get much change out of $500...........

Probably for something that will never get used.

[Ivan]

You should also rotate the use of the keys as the battery gets charged when inserted in the ignition. If you don't rotate the keys the second one will go flat until it's inserted in the ignotion again.

Cheers

Ivan

[robertj]

Slightly off topic but I had a house break in last year and the swine took the key but didn't get time to take the car. Had to replace the steering column lock and the drivers door lock along with two new keys just to make sure he couldnt come back and nick the car by opening the car manually.
Got them through Nick at Yeovil LR who was very helpful and saved heaps compared to getting them through the local dealership.
Local guys were more than helpful to do the install though which was done well.

[~Rich~]

I'm sure many will find this US Landrover Parts supplier the way to go for Genuine parts.

https://bputah.com/

Want a spare key? - $160 UD$ just have to get it coded here by a dealer.

Want a spare compressor? - $595 US$

My brother has been using them for a while for a FFRR and has been more than happy with their service.

[~Rich~]

Unfortunately the supplier has confirmed that the Remotes he can supply are the wrong frequency for Au. He cannot supply the correct ones. :(

[dwaters]

Bugger, I ordered one a few weeks ago and they did not mention this to me???

[~Rich~]

Bugger, what can I say other than sorry.
:(
I would of thought they would of said something seeing where it was being shipped to. :mad:

[bbyer]

I see the keys advertised on the BPUtah site are the 315 MHz frequency. The other frequency that I know of is 433 MHz. The frequency refers to what the CLS, (Central Locking System), receiver listens for, and not the engine start transponder.

The RF frequency is written on the label that is covered up by the rotating metal key portion. The 315 MHz frequency is what shows on my key is here in Canada. I suppose it is the same for USA.

It may be that Australia is 433 but it should say for certain on the key label.

Assuming the key fob after programming, works for the CLS and engine start, the metal keyed portion from the old Key Fob is transferred from the old fob to the new one. The metal blade bit is held in by a roll pin - it just pushes out.

The chances of a local key cutter being able to duplicate a new factory key blank is unlikely as the steel in the factory blank is some sort of hardened steel relative to what normal aftermarket blanks are. About once a year, the factory Land Rover replacement key cutter goes out of tune and they find out after distributing a few hundred defective ones around the world.

That is one reason higher end vehicle are car jacked now, rather than being stolen in the old sense of the term.

[dwaters]

Don't be sorry. Appreciate your help.
I will try and make contact with them and hopefully get a refund.

[bbyer]

Don't be sorry. Appreciate your help.
I will try and make contact with them and hopefully get a refund.bp is pretty good. You might let them know what the frequency is in Australia so they can post a warning.

Also is it the 433 MHz number I presumed it to be?

[NomadicD3]

Also is it the 433 MHz number I presumed it to be?[/QUOTE]


Hi BB, correct it is 433 mhz. I was curious as to how each key works only for the one car? Is it that they alter the frequency slightly? ie:433.75 then 433.76 ??
BTW thanks for all your very informative posts, I actually make an effort to read your posts as you seem to do alot of specific research about the topics before you post, well done and keep up the good work, as it helps others, like me;),from having to wade through loads of information to obtain what is really pertinent.:arms::arms:
regards
Brian

[bbyer]

Hi BB, correct it is 433 MHz. I was curious as to how each key works only for the one car? Is it that they alter the frequency slightly? ie:433.75 then 433.76 ?? regards Brian I think the frequency is very stable, as in 433.000, (Drivesafe better understands this stuff), and what changes is what I regard as a true digital signal that is generated and transmitted and then understood by the receiver that I think also talks back.

The signal code generated changes each time it is used and due to smart math, the receiver knows what to expect, or more correctly 255 other possible choices, sort of.

The units are not restricted to a mere 256 choices however, just that each time, the sender could send one of 255 other signals. A thief would have to guess what set of 256 within the millions available is in use at that time, plus there is now some way to make the guess even more difficult even if he intercepts the signal. Early designs had that problem.

In a more practical sense, your kids would have to push the lock unlock button 255 times at some distance from your 3 before the key would become disabled. I say disabled, as per attached, there is a procedure that works with some code hopping systems to reactivate - probably not LR, as it is do it yourself, free, and does not require the dealer.

The Texas Instruments 27 page pdf below is even more detailed if one understands that sort of stuff. I doubt that LR uses TI, probably some German or Japanese electronics instead, but the concept will be the same. That is why I think the reactivate function provided will not work for our door lock setup. Additionally, I think LR uses what is called Cryptographic Electronic Code which is more complicated than mere Rolling Electronic Code - as in billions of codes or is it trillions? - only Bankers understand those kind of numbers.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/remote-entry2.htm (http://auto.howstuffworks.com/remote-entry2.htm)