Factory roof rails

[jb747]

Does anyone have a recommended source for the OEM short roof rails for the Disco 4?

[CSBrisie]

Duckworth Landrover UK - on the net; Much cheaper and delivered to the door.

[NavyDiver]

Does anyone have a recommended source for the OEM short roof rails for the Disco 4?

Gave my not needed D3 rails to a roof rack project on a D4. See link (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/projects-tutorials/125155-roof-rack-build.html) Brad72 pictures showing his very cool roof rack build project show them. If your not to fussy you might consider a 2nd hand set off a D3? Just a thought as it could be a cheaper option as they seem to fit.:D

[LRChris]

I was looking at a set of roof rails for my D4 yesterday. Rhino racks make a set which look pretty neat. I was quoted $650 fitted. Dealer quoted $1600 for LR originals.

[ADMIRAL]

Does anyone have a recommended source for the OEM short roof rails for the Disco 4?

Unless you particularly want the oe rails, the Rhino option is flatter & lower. I would have a good look around before committing.

[CaverD3]

Reccommens Rhino rails. Rails and croos bars are less then LR rails alone. Low profile too. But make sure they put in the rivet at the back.

[scarry]

So with the Rhino roof bars,you need to fit a rhino track?
What about the pop rivet,does it go into the roof?

I need to get some bars for the Foxwing.

[CaverD3]

It goes through the roof and into the roof frame. Because the Rhino rails are lower profile than the OEM they bend easier, the pop rivet stops the back end of the rail lifting.

[discotwinturbo]

It goes through the roof and into the roof frame. Because the Rhino rails are lower profile than the OEM they bend easier, the pop rivet stops the back end of the rail lifting.

The rear rivet is only actually needed if the leg was to go rear of the last bolt on the rails.
The rear leg on mine sits in front of the last bolt so not needed. I think having to drill another hole turned me off.
I have my rack sitting forward with roof topper hanging slightly off the back, so that the rack sits also over the front small rail. Helps spread some of the forward weight.

[CaverD3]

True, as long as you will never wish to change the position of the rear cross bar. It should not be needed for the Foxwing but I would suggest you have it put in in case you decide to use it differently.

[BobD]

When I bought my D4 late last year the dealer said that he gave me a bargain by giving me the rails off another car in the yard for half price ($650). I have Thule cross bars for my roof top tent and when I bought the fitting kit from ARB to fit the LR rails they didn't fit.

After much mucking around the Thule rep finally said that the rails are probably Rhino. We then got the fitting kit for the Rhino rails and sure enough, no problem. Rang the dealer in Parramatta and he was certain that they were LR roof rails! Anyway, at least the price matches the Rhino cost in one of the posts above.

Bob

[sniegy]

I need to get some bars for the Foxwing.
Paul, let me know how you get on with this wrt ease of use, quality, function etc.
Am thinking of getting one also.

Cheers

[mowog]

When I bought my D4 late last year the dealer said that he gave me a bargain by giving me the rails off another car in the yard for half price ($650). I have Thule cross bars for my roof top tent and when I bought the fitting kit from ARB to fit the LR rails they didn't fit.

After much mucking around the Thule rep finally said that the rails are probably Rhino. We then got the fitting kit for the Rhino rails and sure enough, no problem. Rang the dealer in Parramatta and he was certain that they were LR roof rails! Anyway, at least the price matches the Rhino cost in one of the posts above.

Bob

Bob

Have you had any issues with the weight of the tent and people on the roof?

I have an ARB Roof Top Tent and a fox wing but the whole max roof load thing is an issue for me.

[~Rich~]

I also think that it's a pity the rails have a curve in them front to rear.
It would be good if more support points could be used for what ever rack / basket is fixed to them. Being curved stuffs that option. :(

[BobD]

Mowog, I have had no problem with weight. I think the maximum weight is a dynamic one as is stated in many 4WD publications for generic cars and you just need to limit the weight while travelling to the specified maximum. In my case I have a Kimberley Mycube and this weighs just over 40kg with my options.

I am more concerned about exceeding the GVM of the car with bars front and rear, long range fuel tanks etc plus the roof top camper and camping gear.

Bob

[mowog]

Mowog, I have had no problem with weight. I think the maximum weight is a dynamic one as is stated in many 4WD publications for generic cars and you just need to limit the weight while travelling to the specified maximum. In my case I have a Kimberley Mycube and this weighs just over 40kg with my options.

I am more concerned about exceeding the GVM of the car with bars front and rear, long range fuel tanks etc plus the roof top camper and camping gear.

Bob

Try adding 3500kg of van to back with LR Tank rear bar and some gear... GVM is a BIG issue for us.

I am looking for a lighter alternative for some trips. We have the Roof top tent and a fox wing but no roof rails on the D4... All this gear we got for my Sons Ford Ranger. But I am thinking it would be good for some trips to more remote places where you cant pull 3500kg of van.

[BobD]

Try adding 3500kg of van to back with LR Tank rear bar and some gear... GVM is a BIG issue for us.

I am looking for a lighter alternative for some trips. We have the Roof top tent and a fox wing but no roof rails on the D4... All this gear we got for my Sons Ford Ranger. But I am thinking it would be good for some trips to more remote places where you cant pull 3500kg of van.

Mowog,

I tow a 1800kg Geist, which is a perfect fit for the Disco and any other Euro tow car. The ball weight is 100kg maximum allowed so it doesn't even reduce the GVM of the car (I think 150kg is allowed at full load) and load leveller bars are not allowed on either the Geist or the car. It has the Euro over ride brakes, which are simply brilliant and much better than any electric brake system I have used previously. Towing with my old 6.5 Chev GQ (Maveric) was a bit of a struggle on hills but it is so effortless with the D4.

Bob

[Mike_S]

I think this has been asked before but, has anyone ever dropped onto a weighbridge with a fully kitted D3 or D4 ? One with front bar, winch, roofrack & tent, longrange tank, rear bumper & wheel carriers, internal fridge and all the stuff people carry. Just curious that's all, am thinking this must be heading towards or over 3 tonnes. I know the suspension self levels, but the additional load on the dampers etc must be enormous.

[scarry]

Like someone else said,the pop rivet is off puting.As the foxwing is long,the bars would probably have to be as far apart as possible on the raised section of the roof?So the pop will be needed.I will have to get it out & check it against the D4.Unless i get long rails & have one bar with longer legs,but don't think rhino make one.

I don't want a rack,just bars.

The rhino bars will fit the factory rails i think?

[scarry]

Paul, let me know how you get on with this wrt ease of use, quality, function etc.
Am thinking of getting one also.

Cheers

Sneigy,the foxwing is a good bit of kit,had it on the D2.

But there are a couple of issues,be VERY careful in windy weather,we broke ours once as the wind got hold of it while putting it up.Luckily the parts are easily sourced from Autobarn,which is great.I won't leave it up on a windy night in case the pegs & guy ropes work their way loose during the night.The largest sand pegs available are needed,and ALWAYS use the guy ropes,even if it is not very windy.

They are well built (and expensive)& mine had no worries on a Cape trip(lots of corrugations)They are also reasonably quick & easy to put up.

The other pain,as with any awning is it has to be packed up if you need to move the car.

My son has a 3mx3m gazebo which is another option.It has walls that velcro onto which ever side you want to put them on which is handy.
Being freestanding is also good.They are also a lot cheaper than a foxwing.

[PKD4]

Paul,

According to the Rhino Rack website their cross bars do have mounts that will fit the factory/dealer fitted OEM rails. I have not checked this with my local Rhino Rack guy, but I have the factory rails and cross bars (were on the vehicle when I bought it) and I think that the Rhino Rack Cross bars seem better suited for accessory use. I will probably change them over at some stage.


Pat

[BobD]

As I mentioned, Thule has mountings for the Landrover roof rails and also for the Rhino roof rails, so I don't see why Rhino wouldn't have the same. Gives you plenty of options for bars of any cost and shape.

Bob

[brad72]

Not sure on the cost but you can also get Windcheetah roof rails form opposite lock.. No idea of the cost mind you.

WC Tracks Disco 3 (Pr)-Home - Roofracks - -Opposite Lock Holdings (http://www.oppositelock.com.au/index.php?action=prodcatalogue&form_name=view_product&category_id=50&product_id=477&pageID=10062&sectionID=0)

[scarry]

Duckworth Landrover UK - on the net; Much cheaper and delivered to the door.

So if i got a set of gen short rails,could i fit them myself?

What about the long rails,would they be able to be fitted easily?

Do the long rails go along the roof at the same height(from the ground),so rhino racks with same lenght legs will fit on front & rear section of roof,and be level,if you know what i mean?

[sniegy]

So if i got a set of gen short rails,could i fit them myself?Yes!

What about the long rails,would they be able to be fitted easily?Yes!

Do the long rails go along the roof at the same height(from the ground),so rhino racks with same lenght legs will fit on front & rear section of roof,and be level,if you know what i mean?Yes!
Taada!;)

[scarry]

Please note,spares for Foxwing are from Autobarn,not Supercheap.I have edited my previous post.
Foxwing is also available from Autobarn.

[scarry]

Looks like the LR tracks are over double the price of the rhino tracks,LR around $450 &rhino around $165,both not fitted.These are for tracks for the higher section of roof.Rhino also make a short track for the front section,( around $86)then a higher leg to suit the front bar.Maybe i will have to put the pop in.

LR also make one long track that goes the full lenght of the roof,can't remember the price,possibly around the $870 mark?

LR tracks from Duckworths are nearly as much,once you ad freight.

Rhino have legs for the LR tracks.

Has anyone actually fitted the rhino tracks?
How easy are they to fit?

[discotwinturbo]

Looks like the LR tracks are over double the price of the rhino tracks,LR around $450 &rhino around $165,both not fitted.These are for tracks for the higher section of roof.Rhino also make a short track for the front section,( around $86)then a higher leg to suit the front bar.Maybe i will have to put the pop in.

LR also make one long track that goes the full lenght of the roof,can't remember the price,possibly around the $870 mark?

LR tracks from Duckworths are nearly as much,once you ad freight.

Rhino have legs for the LR tracks.

Has anyone actually fitted the rhino tracks?
How easy are they to fit?

Hi scary,

I have fitted rhino tracks. Quite easy. You need to cut the factory insert a couple of times (once only if you fit rear rails only). Pop rivet an absolute must for the front rails....2 in each. Rear pop rivet not necessary on mine, as I have the legs forward of the rear most bolt.

Brett

[Tote]

I have thge windcheetah rails on my D3 and have had them fitted for 3 years to attach a windcheetah rack. They use the factory mount points and there is no need to pop rivet them to the roof.
RRP $135 plus freight

WC Tracks Disco 3 (Pr) - Dolium Pty Ltd (http://www.dolium.com.au/Retail_Catalogue_page/RMTD3_item.html'ref_cat_id=Components)

Regards,
Tote

[discotwinturbo]

The thing that steered me away from wind cheetah was the weight. I lifted one at opposite lock that would fit my D4 and it was significantly heavier, and with the 75 kilo limit, decided to go with the lighter rhino racks....and they are still not incredibly light.

The advantage of cheetah was no rivets at the front, due to the structural difference in the rack, and more attachments for accessories.

You don't need the front legs mounted if you choose the shorter rack.

Brett

[scarry]

Do the Rhino legs fit the Windcheeter tracks?

And with the pop rivet,do you seal with a bit of sicaflex over it?

[CSBrisie]

I have factory roof rails on my D4 (bought over the net from UK dealer) and have rhino rack cross bars fitted.

[discotwinturbo]

Do the Rhino legs fit the Windcheeter tracks?

And with the pop rivet,do you seal with a bit of sicaflex over it?

Don't know about the legs fitting the cheeta. I thought the cheeta had its own mount on the tracks.
yep..put some sealant on to be sure, even though I picked up special sealing rivets

[discotwinturbo]

I actually take the tray off when not required and should I only need roof racks, I just put the usual rhino legs on and add cross bars (the platform has the cross bars built in)

[scarry]

Picked up the Rhino roof rails.Rears only.Reasonably easily fitted.Pop was easy,sealed with butal mastic.Had to cut out bit of sealent on roof where pop rivet goes & treat with cold gal day before & let it dry.
Left side was easy,right was a PITA:(Good old LR quality control,one of the threaded lugs in the roof,the centre one was about 2.5mm out of line.The rail was drilled spot on,was straight,so had to make holes in it slightly bigger,etc.

Next weekend will have a go at fitting bars & foxwing.

[DRD]

I want to put a boat loader on a D4 with factory rails, I need so ideas to what type to by
Thanks
Des

[101RRS]

I want to put a boat loader on a D4 with factory rails, I need so ideas to what type to by
Thanks
Des

See Here

Rhino Rack - Accessories Categories (http://www.rhinorack.com.au/AccessoriesCategory.aspx)

[NiftyNev]

Has anyone carried a canoe or kayak on their D3? I am wanting to carry 2 canoes, but my D3 has no factory tracks.

Opposite Lock recommended that I need the full length tracks, so quoted me on 2 sets of Rhino tracks (front and rear sections), and 3 heavy duty cross bars. They quoted me $795 plus $150 to fit (100kg rated), or $755 + 150 for Aero 75kg rated. $149 for 1 Kayak holders kit.


Would this be the best way to go, and does the price seem ok. Any suggestions?

Thanks
Nev

[101RRS]

Has anyone carried a canoe or kayak on their D3? I am wanting to carry 2 canoes, but my D3 has no factory tracks.

Opposite Lock recommended that I need the full length tracks, so quoted me on 2 sets of Rhino tracks (front and rear sections), and 3 heavy duty cross bars. They quoted me $795 plus $150 to fit (100kg rated), or $755 + 150 for Aero 75kg rated. $149 for 1 Kayak holders kit.


Would this be the best way to go, and does the price seem ok. Any suggestions?

Thanks
Nev

All components listed here with prices - make your own mind.

Rhino Rack - Roof Racks for LAND ROVER Discovery 3 and 4 4WD 04/05 On (http://www.rhinorack.com.au/Vehicle_LAND%20ROVER_Discovery%203%20and%204_4091. aspx)