Flutter on Start

[Presto]

Hi All,

Is there any fix to the flutter on start of a TDV6? When it starts there's a Phhhht, Phhhht, Phhhht before it ticks over smoothly. (sorry, but thats the best attempt I could do with a keyboard! :angel:)
Mine is a 2007 D3, but I've heard the same from pretty much all TDV6's in D3's and RRS?

Thanks in advance for your comments/knowledge

[101RRS]

Mine is a 2007 D3, but I've heard the same from pretty much all TDV6's in D3's and RRS?

Not heard of this before - my My07 RRS does not do it. Are you waiting until the glow plug light goes out before starting?

Garry

[Presto]

I'll check that next start - too many beers now to sit in the drivers seat! ...but to be honest have never noticed the glow plug light - aren't cars way too advanced to need that these days!? :angel:

However, I've heard at least 5 other cars (mixture of D3 & RRS) doing the same but don't know their build dates!? Someone did comment to me that it could be an update from LR to fix it!?

[jonesy63]

How old is your battery?

Is the earth lead connection to the body ok?

[Presto]

How old is your battery?

Is the earth lead connection to the body ok?

I'm guessing it's still the original battery, but never had an issue with it starting, it's after it's started that I get the flutter.

[DiscoWeb]

I'll check that next start - too many beers now to sit in the drivers seat! ...but to be honest have never noticed the glow plug light - aren't cars way too advanced to need that these days!? :angel:

However, I've heard at least 5 other cars (mixture of D3 & RRS) doing the same but don't know their build dates!? Someone did comment to me that it could be an update from LR to fix it!?

Presto,

I have certainly not noticed this as an issue. If your are talking about the couple of ignition coughs (for want of another word or description) prior to it kicking over and idling normally I do not think that is unusual for a diesel.

Regards the glow plug, it is the light shaped like a two loop coil that only comes of for a couple of seconds (can be longer if it is really cold) when you turn the key to position II i.e. just before ignition.

I believe it is still best to let this light go out before kicking it over, something I do 99% of times but on the odd occasion I have turned it all the way on it still start ok.

Hope this helped.

George

[Neil P]

Throw in some injector cleaner . This is the best one , from Supercheap
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[roamer]

Maybe try turning the air cond off, when you start it see if noise goes.

Cheers Ken

[strudeltoowoomba]

If you are talking about just after it starts, almost a rough idle for a second or two? It could well be the low pressure fuel pump located in the fuel tank. Had to replace the pump on Dad's 2005 model.

[jonesfam]

I'd go for a fuel problem.
My wife's old Delica would run really rough after start up until we found a tiny leak in the fuel filter.
Replaced fuel filter & the problem went away.
Jonesfam
BTW the Delica is a diesel.

[Presto]

It doesn't actually run rough, just has a flutter noise after start-up. It only seems to do it when cold. Next time I can beat the wife to the keys in a morning, I'll check starting with leaving the glow plug light go out. I've pretty much ignored that since I got the car, as modern diesels don't seem to rely on it like the older diesels used to, and living in QLD, there's no worry about cold starts! :angel: ....I remember scrapping the ice off my old Peugeot diesel in the UK and then having to give the glow plugs a number of cycles to make sure it starts!! :eek:

Thanks all for your input!

[INDIE2002UK]

Have the egr valves checked we are finding these do what you described when they stick in the morning

[adzee]

What's egr? I have this same flutter for a second or so after start up, and I have looked for the glow light, can't see it?

Is it costly cause I think I have just hit 5000kms after I bought the car, meaning no warranty... Great.

[INDIE2002UK]

Exhaust gas recirculation. There is one for each bank. Sometimes they become sticky from coke. Under certain conditions they redirect exhaust gas back into the engine to burn of poisonous gases

[adzee]

Exhaust gas recirculation. There is one for each bank. Sometimes they become sticky from coke. Under certain conditions they redirect exhaust gas back into the engine to burn of poisonous gases

Is that what the blanking plates on eBay are for? Should you blank them?

[adzee]

Took mine to dealer today, they reckon it's a software issue, and updated it. Claimed the earlier versions did this, only when cold though. I'll see how it goes tomorrow morning.

[Presto]

Took mine to dealer today, they reckon it's a software issue, and updated it. Claimed the earlier versions did this, only when cold though. I'll see how it goes tomorrow morning.

Not the first time I've heard it's related to software - Let me know if it's resolved! :)

[adzee]

Still flutters, but maybe not as severely?? Not fussed if it isn't endangering my motor at all. Are the blanking plates worth it?