Mud stuff seat rails

[PAT303]

Has anyone fitted Mudstuff seat rails?,I'm looking at buying some as they look the goods and the puma's a bit tight for leg room,they are pretty exxy but they are a good looking bit of gear. Pat

[Xtreme]

Not sure how they compare but have you looked at the seat rails from Daniel at Mulgo Expedition Equipment - great supporter of AULRO and a nice guy also.

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[p38arover]

You didn't do a search on the forum, did you?

[P38ace]

Has anyone fitted Mudstuff seat rails?,I'm looking at buying some as they look the goods and the puma's a bit tight for leg room,they are pretty exxy but they are a good looking bit of gear. Pat

Seat rails are not really necessary. All you need is a handful of washers under the rear end of the seat. This allows it to slide back over the flange. A few more under the front adjusts the seat tilt to your taste. You will also need 4 longer bolts.

All done for about $5.

[Allan]

Not sure how they compare but have you looked at the seat rails from Daniel at Mulgo Expedition Equipment - great supporter of AULRO and a nice guy also.

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Got the Mulgo's on the passenger side and the muds on the drivers side, didn't know about Mulgo when I ordered the Mud Rails. Forgot to search.
I'd go the Mulgo Rails, much cheaper and do just the same job, and as mentioned a very nice guy.

Allan

[pannawonica]

I have mud rails fitted. Was not really concerned by the cost. They look factory when fitted, they are well finished, power coated and have plastic end caps. Supplied with good instructions and are fitted in but a few minutes. I found them a good company to deal with. :D

[PAT303]

You didn't do a search on the forum, did you?

Sometimes it's good to get new up to date info.;). Pat

[spudboy]

Can you weld at all? I made up a set in Stainless for about $15 or $20, but mild steel (painted) would work just as well. Easy design. Took a couple of hours. Do a search and you'll find the post of how I made them.

BIG difference to drivability if you are tall (I am 6'3").

Cheers
David

[spudboy]

Hey - no searching required. Here's the link: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/134862-made-some-stainless-longer-seat-rails-puma-20-2-hours.html

[Allan]

Pat, just a point I forgot re the Mud Rails. I had to modify one of the rails to fit the Puma as mine, I dont know if they all do, has a fixed stud on one of the rear mounts of the seat. I had to drill a hole large enough to get both the nut and socket in to tighten it to the seat box.

Allan

[Beckford]

I won a set of Mulgo seat rails at the AULRO 10th anniversary. A good bit of gear. Come with instructions, bolts, nuts, washers etc.

They are a good price based on Spud Boys estimate of $20 materials + 2 hours work for the DIY version. I also don't own a welder or know how to use one yet!

I am not that tall, but there is a tall person in my family who will now fit in our Defender.

[VladTepes]

Length of square section steel, a drill, a can of black spray paint and a few minutes of your time.

[pannawonica]

The ones I fitted were Puma specific and as such bolted straight on. They came with everything to do the job. For me being in a company house and not having the time or fabrication facilities they where just the ticket. :D

[PAT303]

Same here,I like the look of the mud rails as they look factory standard and having a company house limits what I can do,for under $200 delivered I know they will hold up in a crash so they are cheap really.Thanks for the info

[camel_landy]

25mm box section, some longer bolts and 30mins is all you need.

Don't go the washer route as that puts too much strain on the mounting.

HTH

M

[P38ace]

25mm box section, some longer bolts and 30mins is all you need.

Don't go the washer route as that puts too much strain on the mounting.

HTH

M

I disagree with you on both counts.

Firstly, having made a set of rails out of of 25mm RHS myself, I'd like to see someone try and make a set in 30 minutes including measuring, cutting, drilling, finishing and painting. Then it's a fiddly job actually installing the seat to them. That alone will take 30 minutes.

Secondly, the Puma comes from the factory as standard with the seat runners mounted on a pile of washers at each bolt, installed to lift the seat clear of the rubber matting. Adding a few more washers does not make a scrap of difference to the mounting provided a longer bolt is installed.

I removed my rails because even 25 mm was too high and vision out of the top of the windscreen and side window was severely reduced, I'm only 6ft.

In my opinion washers are a far superior and adjustable solution. It only takes a few minutes each bolt and you can do one at a time without removing the seat.

[Beckford]

I won a set of Mulgo seat rails at the AULRO 10th anniversary. A good bit of gear. Come with instructions, bolts, nuts, washers etc.

Some photos of the Mulgo seat rails and rear door gas strut. Very easy to install.

(As you can see by the dirt & dog hair, I find the Puma perfect for my needs.)

[PAT303]

Do Mulgo's type cause you to sit to high?. Pat

[Allan]

No Pat, infact I think the Mud Rails sit the seat higher.

Allan

[Beckford]

Do Mulgo's type cause you to sit to high?. Pat

I have not noticed any difference, but I am average height.

I only go one notch further back than standard, but I have a relative with really long legs who is yet to try it.....

[Loubrey]

At 6"1' the mudrails make me sit too high. I bought them back in the UK and I had to give them away to a friend as I ended up sitting too high to see out the windscreen.

I'm having a keen look at the feedback from the Mulgo rails as I can do with sitting a little further back as well.

[Yorkshire_Jon]

I have the MUD rails fitted. Yes you sit an inch higher and upto 2 inches further back - makes a significant difference.

To carry on the earlier discussions though, how do you move the seat back without increasing height? There is a bit of the seat box that requires the seat to be lifted in order to get over it. To that end, surely, whichever means you use to get the seat back, you have to lift it over the back of the seat box???

The MUD rails just clear the seat box raised bit at the back.

[Xtreme]

At 6"1' the mudrails make me sit too high. I bought them back in the UK and I had to give them away to a friend as I ended up sitting too high to see out the windscreen.

I'm having a keen look at the feedback from the Mulgo rails as I can do with sitting a little further back as well.

Here's a photo of an unfitted Mulgo seat extension rail. As can be seen, the front would not be much higher than the original when fitted but the rear would be about 30mm higher, giving the seat a very slightly more level position
However, I don't think this would be a problem, especially as you'd have the seat further back at the same time and could adjust the backrest to compensate.

Hope this helps.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/11/379.jpg

[Alex]

I have the mulgo ones on both sides, love them.

I'm 6'3" and have no problems with them being too high (although I do drive with the backrest fairly reclined). They only seemed to change the angle of the seat slightly (raised a little at the back). I ended up putting a few extra washers under the front to compensate.

I am about to go outside and pull them out of my td5 90 so they can go in my puma that I pick up on the weekend :D

They are a great product and easy to install. Plus I am going to get to use them all over again so well worth the money.

[dlatn]

I was considering the Mud Rails but I am taller than most and already have trouble looking out the windscreen. The solution I found was to remove the front driver's seat altogether and sit on back passengers seat. I have had to cut a large hole in the roof for my head and shoulders to stick out and my knees rub against the ceiling when I go over bumps, and other than a few strange looks, its great.
When I take the mrs out, she rides in the trailer where headroom is not a problem.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I was considering the Mud Rails but I am taller than most and already have trouble looking out the windscreen. The solution I found was to remove the front driver's seat altogether and sit on back passengers seat. I have had to cut a large hole in the roof for my head and shoulders to stick out and my knees rub against the ceiling when I go over bumps, and other than a few strange looks, its great.
When I take the mrs out, she rides in the trailer where headroom is not a problem.:rulez: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/03/451.jpg