Another fine example of our corrupt justice system

[CraigE]

Another fine example of how slanted and corrupt our justice system is with SA Senator Fisher being found guilty of assault and not guilty of shop lifting with no conviction being recorded. The reasoning was she had a panic attack. What garbage she only had a panic attack after being caught out.
Just goes to show, one rule for some and another for others. If she had not been who she is she would have been convicted and a sentence recorded.
The people of SA must be ecstatic to have some one like this cleared to come back and represent them.

[roverfan]

The justice system in our country favors the rich first, the poor second and the middle class who make a mistake get screwed.

[SPROVER]

Whats that saying? Its not what you know but who you know! :twisted:
I heard it on the radio.What a joke! If that was some one like myself im sure i would be getting more then a slap on the wrist.:mad:

[incisor]

they only get away with what they are allowed to get away with....


pity most peole dont give a hoot...

[woody]

She's not the only one, the criminal justice system in this country favours the victim, that is if you can convince the court that your a victim you'll get away with it.
Look at the courts and find out how many crims say that they had a hard life, came from a broken home, parents bashed or neglected them, they have ADHD, ASD, PMT, <insert other mental condition here> or are just a common junkie. It's not their fault they have a problem, BULL**** it isn't! lock the buggers up and let justice be served. :mad:

[It'sNotWorthComplaining!]

just like the black Saturday Bush fires 2 under age kids lit one, a life was lost, but it was advised that due to their low IQ they would not face trial.
The little ***** get off.:mad:

[RoverP6B]

Teens headbutt woman in Sydney robbery: police (http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/teens-headbutt-woman-in-sydney-robbery-police-20111101-1mspi.html)

I heard this recently on the radio and apparantly they were both out on parole when they committed this crime.

Ron.

[VladTepes]

Nothing new to see hear.... moving on....

[slug_burner]

Bring back transportation, send them to Van Diemen's land.... oops that's Tasmania, can't send them there anymore.

Yes the legal system or is that just humanity, does like a good victim.

[Chucaro]

Just wonder what would happen to an Aborigine in the same situation :angel:

[bobslandies]

This has been going on for decades.

My understanding is if you are convicted of an indictable offence you cannot sit in the Parliament. That's the reason nothing happened here - there would have to be another appointment.

Here's a fairy tale. Once upon a time there was an ambitious person found guilty of an indictable offence. The judge never handed down a verdict - the person later became a State Premier. The case could not be referred to by the Press as the person was never "convicted". He sure looked after his mates, and others mates as well! And they all lived happily everafter.

Bob

[rockyroad]

This isnt the sort of thing I would normally put forward but maybe what is needed is for every judge in the country to have their house burgled, their volvo keyed and their wife mugged by a junkie - preferably all in the one week.

Judges seem to have lost all connection with the real world having lived the high life as solicitors and barristers all their working life making big dollars. If that idea doesnt take then they should be made to go for a ride along with the police and see how they behave before they get to the court room.

[It'sNotWorthComplaining!]

Then we have Mokbel caught with his fingers in the cookie jar and pleads guilty ( because he is) , now because of a stuff up, he all of a sudden changes his plee to not guilty, just to use a loop hole, either way he is still scum

[d2dave]

The justice system in our country favors the rich first, the poor second and the middle class who make a mistake get screwed.

You forgot to add in famous. Doc Neeson from the Angels recently fronted court for his fourth drink driving, nearly three times the legal limit. He did not get off scot free but was spared a gaol sentence because of who he is.

The magistrate actually said something along the the lines of "This would normally be a gaol sentence, but because of your contribution to society you will be spared"

One of us and we would have done time for sure.

Dave.

[Chucaro]

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The magistrate actually said something along the the lines of "This would normally be a gaol sentence, but because of your contribution to society you will be spared"

One of us and we would have done time for sure.

Dave.

What about those that contribute to society in an anonymous way :(

[blitz]

Bring back transportation, send them to Van Diemen's land.... oops that's Tasmania, can't send them there anymore.

Yes the legal system or is that just humanity, does like a good victim.

send em back to england

[RobHay]

No! No! No! ......Don't send them to jail.......They live in air-conditioned spendor in summer:o, warm as toast in winter:o, three dietian designed meals a day:o, free medical and dental:o, cannot forced them to do any work:mad:, sit around and play x-box (or similar) all day:o, drugs freely available :oand to top it off ......all the sex they can handle.:D

....damn shame we did away with the cat-o-nine tails, that tends to get their attention

[KarlB]

Our judicial system may be inequitable at times; and not as open as it could be, but that does not make it corrupt. And maybe those that don't like it could bugger off back to England, or where ever they have come from, and leave God’s own country for those that appreciate it for what it is, faults and all. Or they might like to try making the place better, but I guess that is not as easy as whinging.

Cheers
KarlB
:twisted:

[Chucaro]

Our judicial system may be inequitable at times; and not as open as it could be, but that does not make it corrupt. And maybe those that don't like it could bugger off back to England, or where ever they have come from, and leave God’s own country for those that appreciate it for what it is, faults and all. Or they might like to try making the place better, but I guess that is not as easy as whinging.

Cheers
KarlB
:twisted:

Karl, what brew you just have, a mug of coffee with triple caffeine and Tia Maria ? :D

One thing that people have to realize is that is is not the "Court of Justice" it is the "Court of Law"
Perhaps in this case the victim (the security guard) have the right to appeal, but then again that cost money :(

[KarlB]

Karl, what brew you just have, a mug of coffee with triple caffeine and Tia Maria ? :D

I wondered who would be the first to bite! :p

[Bigbjorn]

Bring back transportation, send them to Van Diemen's land.... oops that's Tasmania, can't send them there anymore.

Yes the legal system or is that just humanity, does like a good victim.

Well, there is New Zealand.

[Chucaro]

I wondered who would be the first to bite! :p

........and I was believing that I was good with the big spoon :D

[Basil135]

There are many many cases of the "privileged few" escaping punishment within the SA courts.

The public has for a long time doubted the court results, when cases appear on the weight of the evidence, to warrant prison time, only to find the alleged offenders either escape conviction due to them playing the law, or the penalty not fitting the crime.

To keep both Inc & myself out of court, I won’t name the cases, but anyone who follows court proceedings in SA will know that the DPP is not a popular person in these parts.

The coppers work hard to find the offenders, and build a case, only to have the DPP plea bargain it down, or suggest alternative, lesser charges, so that his conviction rate can remain high. He will NOT fight the tough battles, and prefers to secure a conviction to a lesser charge, rather than let the courts decide on the weight of the evidence before them.

And, when there is a conviction, the courts are placing too much weight on "mitigating circumstances", therefor reducing the sentences.

The coppers & prosecutors work hard to bring criminals to justice, only to be let down by weak judges, and an ineffective DPP.

To top it off, the fact that prisons are for "rehabilitation" and not punishment, is just plain stupid. I would love to see the comparison of repeat offenders now, compared to 100 years ago.

Case in point:
Julian Knight demands jail jelly | Courier Mail (http://www.couriermail.com.au/ipad/julian-knight-demands-jail-jelly/story-fn6ck4a4-1226198356000)

A convicted mass murderer wants designer sunglasses, and a better choice of chips.... I mean, WTF????

[vnx205]

One thing that people have to realize is that is is not the "Court of Justice" it is the "Court of Law"


And that is not the end of the story. There is a memorable exchange between the barrister, Sir Robert Morton, and Catherine Winslow in Terence Rattigan's play "The Winslow Boy" that suggests that justice is not the ultimate achievement.

Sir Robert Morton: I wept today because right had been done.
Catherine Winslow: Not justice?
Sir Robert Morton: No, not justice. Right. Easy to do justice. Very hard to do right.

[dirtdawg]

Just wonder what would happen to an Aborigine in the same situation :angel:

not much anymore they get too many gov handouts aswell :angel::wasntme:

[ugu80]

Karl
One thing that people have to realize is that is is not the "Court of Justice" it is the "Court of Law"


"This is not a court of justice, this is a court of law" Oliver Wendell Holmes, US Supreme Court Justice.

[Bigbjorn]

The coppers work hard to find the offenders, and build a case, only to have the DPP plea bargain it down, or suggest alternative, lesser charges, so that his conviction rate can remain high. He will NOT fight the tough battles, and prefers to secure a conviction to a lesser charge, rather than let the courts decide on the weight of the evidence before them.

And, when there is a conviction, the courts are placing too much weight on "mitigating circumstances", therefor reducing the sentences.

The coppers & prosecutors work hard to bring criminals to justice, only to be let down by weak judges, and an ineffective DPP.



In my DSS days we would refer files for prosecution and eventually have the files returned without action. The DPP would only prosecute where they considered the case was a lay down misere with a 100% chance of conviction. They seemed to not notice that ALL files referred to them were thoroughly well investigated and prepared and the clients had made statements admitting guilt, much proving documentation, statements from employers etc.

The DPP was most reluctant to prosecute cases involving domestic circumstances ( pensioner/beneficiary receiving single payment whilst in an undeclared relationship) or spouse earnings being undeclared or under-declared.

[Barney2803]

I wonder Brian... How many on here actually know what a lay-down-misere is let alone done one! Thanks for the reference, brings back many memories of late night card games.

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