Cooper AT/3

[knotty7]

Hello to all

Has anyone on here put a set of Coopers new 265/60 18's AT/3 on the D3/4????
Im looking at them or the GG AT2's
Coopers $360
GG $300

[mbecker7]

I put a set on my D3 and they are fantastic!
Very quiet and comfortable.

[Redback]

Hey Dave, we are putting the GG AT2s on ours, mainly because of price and I'm not a big fan of Coopers after the bad experience we had with them on the D2.

Baz.

[TerryO]

We have done about 5,000 k's on our set of AT3's and they keep on impressing in how quite they are and how well they handle for a fairly chunky A/T. I have not done much or to difficult off roading with them but so far they seem very good at that as well.

Add in a set of Koni FSD shocks as we did at roughly the same time and a D3 goes from a nice drive to an excellent drive.

We paid $300 a tyre so there are deals out there as well.

cheers,
Terry

[Disco4SE]

Any chance of some pics Terry?
Cheers, Craig

[101RRS]

Hey Dave, we are putting the GG AT2s on ours,

Baz.

I thought the new GG ATs are better than the older GG AT2s and are a similar price.

Have you considered the AT?

Garry

[boofdtl]

AT'S are a very good tyre as are the AT2 it comes down to the ride and what you want i am fitting a set of 255/55/19 on a new D4 tommo if the cust has no probs with me getting some pics will do so and post then up..

[NavyDiver]

The coopers At3 are mostly a road tire. For a road tire there is lots of options,

For off road I might consider coopers in SST, St or ST max rather than AT3 (http://www.coopertires.com.au/index.php?page=tyres). Look at the GG AT2 (http://www.generaltire.com.au/tires/TC3/Light-Truck-and-SUV) or coopers AT3 then it realy comes back to where your going to be driving. Around town or even Oodnadatta track - road tires. Simpson desert or my favorite mountain ranges need a bit more than a A.T.

I have GG AT2 18 inch and Mickey Thompsom ATZ 17 inch on on my D3 now.

Both seem fine on road and off road on tracks. Both slip a bit to auful lot on steep slopes in rain and on mud.:D
Monkey bar like 3 hour winch effort to get home last night with the MT Atz at 15psi unable to stay on a steep, wet tack traversing across (not up or down). Had a similar fun with the GGat2 on last year. Saddly connected to a tree that time, not last yesterday thankfully.

Looked closely at coopers. They look fine some people love them some hate them. Hard to judge the truth from forums. The GG wear a bit better the the MTs which seem a little softer and a little more noise than the GGat2. A mate in Perth who is 90% on road 10% on sand likes his coopers.

[101RRS]

The coopers At3 are mostly a road tire. For a road tire there is lots of options,

For off road I might consider coopers in SST, St or ST max rather than AT3 (http://www.coopertires.com.au/index.php?page=tyres).

The AT3 are not a "road tyre" but a good AT.

Also the SSt, ST and ST Max are a bit big for use in 18" sizes for a D3.

Garry

[jonesfam]

I have had a set of 5 Cooper A/T3's on order now since Moses was a lad. Next week, then next week & so on. Might see 'em one day.
These are in 17" & LT.
If I ever actually get them I will let you know what they are like.
Jonesfam

[knotty7]

Hey Dave, we are putting the GG AT2s on ours, mainly because of price and I'm not a big fan of Coopers after the bad experience we had with them on the D2.

Baz.

Hey Baz

I know how much trouble you had with your coopers, me too. But i thought i might give the new at3's a go since i live in a capital city and can screw them for warranty. In person the coopers look like they would be pretty good in the ruff stuff. There is just stuff all selection in our sizes. Im to scared to go anything thats illegal, seeing that this disco cost me more than the old weapon :)

[Neil P]

.... since I live in a capital city and can screw them for warranty. Have you ever had a successful claim against this Company ?

[big guy]

I have nothing but praise for coopers, they are on 3 vehicles now including a Porsche Cayene and not a single issue.
I think main issue is with people who drive them at 100mp/h at 40 psi over rough terrain and than get delamination or chunks taken out.

Drive to suit the terrain and air down appropriately and most tyres will be great.
I have however had 100% satisfaction with that brand and Pirelli Scorpions also.

[boofdtl]

Fitted a set a GG AT today on a new D4 some pics..
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/boofdtl/100_1756.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/boofdtl/100_1757.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/boofdtl/100_1754.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/boofdtl/100_1753.jpg

[NavyDiver]

The AT3 are not a "road tyre" but a good AT.

Also the SSt, ST and ST Max are a bit big for use in 18" sizes for a D3.

Garry

"A/T3 (All-Terrain) 70% Road & Sand, 30% Dirt & Mud" (http://www.coopertires.com.au/index.php?page=tyres&tyre_id=14)

70% is "mostly" in my opinion, sorry if I offended you Garry. Most of us spend 80-99% or more on road. The bit we spend off road is the most fun.
I have All Terrain on mine. I would like Mud Terrain or possibly coopers SST (if I can fit them) when I run my current 17 inch Mickey Ts down. The Mickey Ts came second hand with some unsuitable rims. I had to buy suitable rims to put them on. DOH. I admired a Melbourne Landrover gents very nice D4 which had 17 inch rims with a very nice looking Mud Tire one it. I agree it is harder with 18 inch or bigger rims. Knotty7 like many of us like checking with you gents to avoid making expensive mistakes with our tire choices.:)

[101RRS]

Not offended at all - it is just that the start of your post sort of implied that the AT3s were of a Highway Terrain spec (I appreciate not actually said). I obviously misinterpreted what you were saying.

We all have the age old problem of tyre compromises. Most ATs are good enough to drive on the road - and indeed most H/Ts are good enough to drive in most offroad situations - the decision point is mud when neither are much chop but then in clay type mud - neither are muddies.

Decisions, decisions

[Tombie]

I have nothing but praise for coopers, they are on 3 vehicles now including a Porsche Cayene and not a single issue.
I think main issue is with people who drive them at 100mp/h at 40 psi over rough terrain and than get delamination or chunks taken out.

Drive to suit the terrain and air down appropriately and most tyres will be great.
I have however had 100% satisfaction with that brand and Pirelli Scorpions also.

Thats all well and good... Except.........:angel:

ALL of the major failures I have seen of "That Brand Tires" have been:

1) On tyres less than 10,000km old
2) in one instance 1 tyre was 800km old the other brand new (was spare and then blew in 5km)
3) De laminated an entire strip off the tyre
4) Had never been off-road
5) Were traveling at under 110km/h at time of delamination


Of the other failures most were "bruising" under the sidewalls of hardly used, correctly inflated tyres...

I have never heard such reports in the quantity or failures of other brand tyres that I hear about "That Brand Tires"...

(And I bet this all gets back to them - Anything I say about them seems to!)

[TerryO]

How long ago was all this happening with the Coopers Tombie?

I remember not that long ago when Hyundai's were considered as heaps of puss, but over the years they have improved and now are considered by the majority of people as being very good cars for their money.

Supposedly the AT3's are a totally new design so time will tell if they have the same issues as the older models. If mine do I will be the first to say so, but why not give these new models the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise?

cheers,
Terry

[Tombie]

How long ago was all this happening with the Coopers Tombie?

I remember not that long ago when Hyundai's were considered as heaps of puss, but over the years they have improved and now are considered by the majority of people as being very good cars for their money.

Supposedly the AT3's are a totally new design so time will tell if they have the same issues as the older models. If mine do I will be the first to say so, but why not give these new models the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise?

cheers,
Terry

Last failure - 3 months ago - speared our head Geologist off the highway at 110km/h.. Was a RHF failure - Tyres were new only 2 weeks before.

Do some lovely exploration on Google for issues with them, in America that brand has some shocking tales of poor QA.

I dont give anything like a tyre the benefit of the doubt - its my only connection to the road.

Would you go back to "Brand X" Brake Pads if you had used them and they nearly killed you & your family??? I doubt it...

[gghaggis]

Do some lovely exploration on Google for issues with them, in America that brand has some shocking tales of poor QA.


I think that would hold for most brands of any product, anywhere in the world!

I've have nothing but praise for the Coopers I've run on my vehicles, same with Mickey Thompsons. But my perception would obviously be different if I'd had issues. I've certainly _heard_ of issues with the older Cooper designs, but the new crop of ATR, AT3, LTZ and ST/Maxx all seem to perform well, at least as far as I've heard.

I _did_ have a bad run with BFG, and lo and behold - a Google search brought up 100's of complaints and issues.

Made me feel vindicated, but I'd be cautious about bagging the entire company without more un-biased evidence.

Cheers,

Gordon

[Tombie]

Thanks Gordon

I agree... And the net is a great source of 'negative feedback'.

I'm wary of this...

It's my own experiences or those of close friends which drive home my opinions towards said manufacturer.

I do not have any issue with their sister company which I believe make exceptional tyres... Often in patterns which are soon after mimicked by their sibling, in an albeit similar tread pattern etc.


"Where the Desert meets the Sea"
'Did I mention some great 4WDriving is just 5 minutes from home?'

[TerryO]

I have now towed our 2.5 ton van twice with the AT3's on and while the pressure only goes up about 6 psi after an hour towing on the freeway it doesn't tow anywhere near as stable as with the STT's.

I took a gamble with getting a tyre with a 109 load rating knowing that I would be towing a heavyish van and for towing our van it hasn't paid off but they are still excellent for norml driving.
I would hazard a guess they would be fine for a camper etc but I don't feel for me anyway they are good for a van that has quite a bit higher centre of gravity and a greater pendulam affect.

Now I would bet this only applies for the 18" AT3's with the 109 load rating, the 17's have a heavier load rating.

Anway I will now be going away over Christmas with the STT's on rather then the AT3's.

cheers,
Terry

[Redback]

Hey Baz

I know how much trouble you had with your coopers, me too. But i thought i might give the new at3's a go since i live in a capital city and can screw them for warranty. In person the coopers look like they would be pretty good in the ruff stuff. There is just stuff all selection in our sizes. Im to scared to go anything thats illegal, seeing that this disco cost me more than the old weapon :)

Have done a bit on these new GG AT2s, so far I'm impressed, quiet and good grip on and off road.

Here's a pic of the new tread pattern
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/bazzar/DSC09998.jpg


Have you ever had a successful claim against this Company ?

Neil I have had 2 warrenty claims honored by Cooper Tires.

Baz.

[jb747]

I know of three failures with Coopers. One resulted in the rollover of the vehicle. One of the others took the vehicle off the road, but thankfully it didn't hit anything. And the third...well, the driver had just finished telling me about the first two, when the tyre delaminated.

[jx2mad]

Just dropped down from 20 inch Continentals on my 03 rangy to 18 inch Cooper A/T3. Boy thay give a good ride. Incidently whilst on the 20 inch the front brakes squeaked a lot. Since going to the new 18 inch rims and tyres, no squeak at all. Interesting?

[Disco4SE]

I've have nothing but praise for the Coopers I've run on my vehicles
I'm with you Gordon. Prior to the D3 & D4, I had travelled around 160K in total on Copper AT's (old tread pattern) and never had a problem. They tend to get clogged in thick mud, but then again, they are a AT tyre.
The only negative I had with them is that they used to flick stones.
Cheers, Craig

[hfwebb]

I have now done 10000 K on my AT3's and are very happy with them. Have always run BFG except for one set of Coopers years ago which I hated but as BFG's were not available and I was going away I fitted AT3's and they are very good on both black top and offroad and with a van on for around 3000 they still impressed.
Regards Howard

[Disco4SE]

I have now done 10000 K on my AT3's and are very happy with them. Have always run BFG
Funny enough, I changed to Coopers because the BFG's let me down too many times. The last was when I had to brake hard in the rain coming up to a round-a-bout, towing a trailer. The tyres let go and I ended up all over the place.
Cheers, Craig

[themalinators]

Are the AT3's really quiet or quiet when compared to the factory garbage they come out with? Also have you noticed any change in the fuel ocnsumption? cheers

[jonesfam]

I don't know if these attachments have worked, but the drama of my new tyres continues.
Because my wife has to drive out next week I managed to get hold of 3 X 265/65/R17 Cooper A/T3's so they have gone on the back & 1 is the spare.
On the front I have Goodrich in the same size but H/T.
Thankfully they have the same ( within 5mm) rolling diameter.
I get the other 2 Coopers when the car gets to Cairns.
I didn't overly like the look of the BB-6 wheels when I put them on Thursday night but, in full daylight they look alright.
I was also surprised how open the A/T3 tread pattern is, I think it looks far more open the the old Cooper model, the tread is also very deep.
I have only done 1 short drive since fitting them & didn't notice any extra noise though the fronts are still H/T.
I am very happy that I now have a bit of tyre meat between the rim & the rocks.
Must remember to get a wheel alignment done when over on the coast.
Jonesfam

[jonesfam]

OOps
I omitted to mention that the Coopers are LT construction, have 1400kg load rating (as do the wheels) & an E rating.
Jonesfam

[Graeme]

I have only done 1 short drive since fitting them & didn't notice any extra noise though the fronts are still H/T.

You might want to do some testing to determine if the HT tyres being on the front cause oversteer on sealed roads.