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Stevepg64
7th December 2011, 06:25 PM
Have Cooper ATR on my D3 with 30k and 18 month old. They have gone off that badly that traction control is the only way we get around a roundabout in the wet. Anyone had same problem with Coopers?
I'm thinking of putting on Continental AT's next.

wardy1
7th December 2011, 06:34 PM
Personally wouldn't ever buy Coopers again. But that said, from what I hear 30k is about what you can expect from tyres on a D3. I stand to be corrected by those who own them but they do seem to chew tyres.

isuzurover
7th December 2011, 07:07 PM
I also would never buy coopers, based on the experiences of close friends who had them.

Check your inflation pressures. Higher pressures help in the wet. If pressure is within spec, then it is time for new tyres.

Owl
7th December 2011, 07:24 PM
Have Cooper ATR on my D3 with 30k and 18 month old. They have gone off that badly that traction control is the only way we get around a roundabout in the wet. Anyone had same problem with Coopers?
I'm thinking of putting on Continental AT's next.

I had a bad experience with Cooper STT's some time ago and managed to get sucked into another set of Coopers (S/T's) more recently for another not so good experience. While someone else makes tyres, there won't be a 3rd time!

I currently have Continental Cross Contact AT's on my D3 in the standard size (255/60R18). Only ~15,000K's so far, but absolutely no complaints.

Jojo
7th December 2011, 07:35 PM
I personally have not had any bad experience with Cooper tyres over several years on several vehicles. There are, of course, always other tyres around, being better in some spects or more suited to different conditions. In general, you get what you pay for.

flagg
7th December 2011, 07:40 PM
I replaced my coopers with BFG's the moment I could afford to. Coopers are a liability.

Lethal in the wet, crack for no reason, randomly disintegrate, and de-laminate at 100Km/h!

But these are just my experiences... others seem to love them and haven't had problems.

isuzurover
7th December 2011, 07:48 PM
I personally have not had any bad experience with Cooper tyres over several years on several vehicles. There are, of course, always other tyres around, being better in some spects or more suited to different conditions. In general, you get what you pay for.

I suspect the conditions your coopers are subjected to are quite different to over here. Both terrain and climate. e.g. - it hit 38oC the other day here and it isn't even (properly) summer yet!

ramblingboy42
7th December 2011, 08:44 PM
every few weeks a similar thread comes up about cooper tyres. I dont know if others have similar stories to tell about other brands, but as a result of the reports on cooper tyres here I would not buy them. so today I had to get another set of tyres on the mines spec hilux....the wranglers have not worn very well at all.....I was offered cooper and refused and the alternative was Mickey Thompson Baja m/s or a toyo I had no idea of....dont see Toyo's on the mine vehicles......so the MT's were fitted......our other mine vehicle has Coopers fitted so should be good grounds for direct comparison......identical vehicles.....identical conditions......will try to remember to update later.

PhilipA
7th December 2011, 09:40 PM
I think Mickey Thomsons are made by Cooper.
Regards Philip A

Stevepg64
7th December 2011, 09:47 PM
Thanks everyone for your replys. I think I'll go for the Continentals, lets face it they can't be any worse than the Coopers.

101RRS
7th December 2011, 10:04 PM
Thanks everyone for your replys. I think I'll go for the Continentals, lets face it they can't be any worse than the Coopers.

Why not General Grabbers ATs or AT2s?

UncleHo
8th December 2011, 10:03 AM
I would be looking at Michelin for long wearing tyres,good quality,not cheap though.

Zute
8th December 2011, 01:47 PM
On my third set of coopers. Two sets of STT's with no problems. now trying a set of the new ST Maxx. I got over 80,000 km's from them and only once had a puncher. A mate runs ST,s on his Prado, no problems. Another has STT's on his Cruiser, all good. Ive only ever had about three punches in 30 years of driving and never destroyed a tyre.
Coopers are a long mileage tyre, so grip can not be expected to be as good as a tyre that has a life of 40,000K's. That's just the way it is.
Over loading will kill a tyre very fast. I see people driving on Free ways with half flat tyres or so heavily packed and next thing they're at a servo wondering why its shredded.
I can only conclude that most tyre problems people have is they lie about how they use them. Its a fact people lie to cover their ass.

BMKal
8th December 2011, 02:09 PM
I think Mickey Thomsons are made by Cooper.
Regards Philip A

They are indeed.

But we run Mickeys on our workshop utes on site - they are about the only tyres we have come across that handle the weight that the fitters throw on them in the conditions we're in.

Our client's vehicles were all fitted with Coopers about a year ago - not any more. They've had nothing but trouble with them and were getting ridiculously low kilometers out of them.

Coopers is one of a few brands I'll never touch - yet my boss in Perth has them on his D3 which he takes off road quite regularly, and so far, he swears by them. :o

RichardK
8th December 2011, 11:46 PM
Personally wouldn't ever buy Coopers again. But that said, from what I hear 30k is about what you can expect from tyres on a D3. I stand to be corrected by those who own them but they do seem to chew tyres.

I've had two sets BFG AT's on both my D3's, both sets have got over 100000K's, for an all terrain they will do me:thumbsup:

Jojo
9th December 2011, 02:52 AM
I would be looking at Michelin for long wearing tyres,good quality,not cheap though.

Can only agree with you, mate, but... Michelin does hardly any offroad tyre any longer, except for the "Latitude"-range which is more suited to on-road use (maybe good on a Disco 3?). We have those on the FL and they are well recommended. All serious offroad tyres are now maufactured by and sold under the (Michelin-owned) BFGoodrich-brand.

UncleHo
9th December 2011, 09:00 AM
G'day Jojo :)

We have Michelin LTX on the RRC and they have shown little wear in the 3 years and 40,000klms we have done, you can still get LTX her in Aust.

cheers

Allan
9th December 2011, 10:17 AM
We've have a set of Toyo muds that have been on both my Puma and the wife's ninety, they seem to be standing up very well after two years use.

Allan

BMKal
11th December 2011, 02:00 PM
every few weeks a similar thread comes up about cooper tyres. I dont know if others have similar stories to tell about other brands, but as a result of the reports on cooper tyres here I would not buy them. so today I had to get another set of tyres on the mines spec hilux....the wranglers have not worn very well at all.....I was offered cooper and refused and the alternative was Mickey Thompson Baja m/s or a toyo I had no idea of....dont see Toyo's on the mine vehicles......so the MT's were fitted......our other mine vehicle has Coopers fitted so should be good grounds for direct comparison......identical vehicles.....identical conditions......will try to remember to update later.

I've got Toyo's on a mine spec Prado 150 up at Nullagine. So far, they've surprised me and don't seem to be a bad tyre.

I remember my father had Toyo's on a Landrover many years ago in the NT when I was a kid - in those days, Toyo's were cheap crap.

Davehoos
11th December 2011, 02:52 PM
I have cooper STT on the disco.
after 10000KM i found them to be good on soft ground and handle funny when cold on tar.

We are having problems at work getting drive tryres for trucks and a mid range tread tyre for hilux.

nsgnomad
11th December 2011, 04:52 PM
Nobody has mentioned Bridgstone. I've had a good run with my D694's and would buy them again, but I don't go off road much so can't vouch for them in offroad conditions.
Roger

PhilipA
11th December 2011, 04:56 PM
I can, just did Cape York with mine and an excellent tyre and cheaper than boutique brands.
Regards Philip A.

DiscoMick
11th December 2011, 05:02 PM
By coincidence, I've got two BFG ATs and two Cooper STs on my Disco which have done the same kilometres (wrecked two older BFGs up the Cape and could only get the Coopers as replacements to match the also-new BFGs).
After 40,000 kms and regular rotation the Coopers are much more worn and chipped than the BFGs, which look fine. Obviously, tyre pressure are important and the Coopers, which seem harder, also seem to need higher pressures than the BFGs on bitumen.
They've spent most of their life on the bitumen, but they do get dirty regularly.
Can't comment on whether the new Cooper ST Maxs are better.
So, based on my experience, I'll go for more BFG ATs next time.
I've also had good reports from friends about the Continentals and Bridgestone D694s mentioned above, if you need mostly on-road tyres which can also do quite well off-road, but have no personal experience.

ScottW
12th December 2011, 11:14 AM
My mother had Cooper ATR's on her RRC for over a year. The same tyres were then swapped to her P38 and have been on there for 2 years and are still going strong. She brakes late and hard and the tyres have lasted unbelievable well.

My father has Cooper ATR's on his D1 and does lots of highway km's. No issues.

My boss has Cooper STT's on his Prado that gets loaded up and tows the boat/caravan all the time. He was also stationed in Dawrin for 2-3 years and did many KM off the sealed roads to secluded fishing spots without incident.

My father had a perfectly good (>50% tread) set of goodyear wranglers delaminate. One let go at highway speeds, doing a bit of damage. On inspection, the remaining tyres were bad too and were replaced very quickly.