View Full Version : My mates Disco 4 ..... uh oh
lizard
8th December 2011, 09:42 PM
Hi, a small one way valve in one of the two turbos was stuck open and allowed  some oil to get burned so they had to replace the complete turbo.
I have  attached a photo to show you how far they had to strip it to get to it.
stig0000
8th December 2011, 09:59 PM
looks prity standed , nothing crazy there
Plane Fixer
9th December 2011, 07:16 AM
How long does it take to lift the body off???
~Rich~
9th December 2011, 07:19 AM
My mechanic said about 2hrs work, quicker with practice. ;)
Tombie
9th December 2011, 07:27 AM
Usual practice and actually pretty quick
Plane Fixer
9th December 2011, 07:32 AM
In that case it would be very cost effective to do that for the difficult to access areas rather than the skinned knuckles, choice language, and a job possibly not done in the correct manner but the easiest.
I know on certain aircraft I will put off an almost impossible job until it is absolutely necessary due to an access problem.
 Certain manufacturers seem to hang the most frequently changed component in the middle of the hangar and build the aircraft around it.
Landrover has obviously learned from BAE and all their previous incarnations (Vickers, Bristol, Hawker Siddley, and Handley Page etc.) how not to do it, hence the easily removable body shell.
mowog
9th December 2011, 08:11 AM
Mine getting the same thing done.
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Graeme
11th December 2011, 01:14 PM
The mechanics are going to just love the job of lifting mine to do the turbo because of the caked-on mud everywhere.  Its bad enough removing the engine and gbox shields on a regular basis to get rid of the dirt and stones that cause the exhaust pipes to vibrate.
sniegy
11th December 2011, 03:31 PM
The mechanics are going to just love the job of lifting mine to do the turbo because of the caked-on mud everywhere.  Its bad enough removing the engine and gbox shields on a regular basis to get rid of the dirt and stones that cause the exhaust pipes to vibrate.
:eek::eek:
PhilipA
11th December 2011, 03:38 PM
Ok for the first buyer , but what happens to the poor DIYer after 10 years when a turbo has a little problem.
 
Maybe just chuck it away.
 
Regards Philip A
~Rich~
11th December 2011, 03:53 PM
The mechanics are going to just love the job of lifting mine to do the turbo because of the caked-on mud everywhere.  Its bad enough removing the engine and gbox shields on a regular basis to get rid of the dirt and stones that cause the exhaust pipes to vibrate.
Is yours on the way out Graeme?
Fluids
11th December 2011, 03:56 PM
"Ok for the first buyer , but what happens to the poor DIYer after 10 years when a turbo has a little problem.
Maybe just chuck it away.
Regards Philip A "
 
 
 
.... you just don't buy a used one ... ever :)
 
Problem solved :)
Graeme
11th December 2011, 05:05 PM
Is yours on the way out Graeme?
It has always blown heaps of blue smoke and coughed and spluttered if wide throttle is used after light throttle cruising for a couple of hours although it doesn't seem to use any oil.  The assessment is that this normally is due to the early batch of faulty turbo seals so the turbo will be replaced.  Whilst I'd rather the body not be removed, its better to get the turbo replaced whilst still under warranty than have to pay for it myself in years to come.
games1
12th December 2011, 06:11 PM
Hi Graeme.. Would agree get it done now.  Had mine changed at approx 28000k and vehicle is now much better to drive with improved fuel consumption as well.  They also lifted the body and so far no unusual issues.  Did have a bit of a drama in that the first replacement turbo was also faulty therefore job took an extra week as new turbo air-freighted from UK.  Dealer did a good job though and now quite happy as "no smoke" screens so no embarrasment.
 
Regards
 
George
Graeme
12th December 2011, 08:57 PM
now quite happy as "no smoke" screens so no embarrasment.I initially was quite embarrassed but got a bit thick-skinned about it after a while, but the coughing and spluttering and poor acceleration with the gearbox hunting between gears balked approaching traffic.
 
The possibility of improved drivability is encouraging as allowing the 2nd turbo to get used just before a gear change causes quite an upset with significant loss of performance for a second or 2.  I was looking forward to the fix to work the 2nd turbo just a little all the time at lower revs but got the response 'What fix?   Never heard of that'.
robbotd5
12th December 2011, 09:15 PM
Any mechanic worth his salt will tell you that this is a problem with all new cars. Just look at the new VW's.... DSG auto's have one part number......
Regards
Robbo.
PhilipA
13th December 2011, 08:43 AM
. Just look at the new VW's.... DSG auto's have one part number
yes , a friend had one go just outside warranty on his Jetta. VW picked up the parts and him the labour of about $3K.  The DSG is "non servicable"
 
Recently he had his "blue  Motion" pump go . another 3K or so.
 
Regards Philip A
Celtoid
14th December 2011, 12:19 PM
I've got a MY10 (2009) SE.
One turbo was replaced some time ago.....no issue at all.
Had a loaner and got a car wash and vaccum....LOL!!!
Mine never smoked or coughed (had a miniscule external leak) but it does seem to drive better now.
Anybody who's concerned about getting the job done, don't be.   Lots of early D4s have been fixed and I haven't read any reports on this forum of any post replacement issues.
Cheers,
Kev.
boostplus1
14th December 2011, 06:27 PM
I've been dreaming of getting one of these, but after seeing these pictures, I think that I'm getting cold feet.
Might just have to stick to the TD5 and live with it's design flaws:(
mowog
14th December 2011, 06:50 PM
I've been dreaming of getting one of these, but after seeing these pictures, I think that I'm getting cold feet.
Might just have to stick to the TD5 and live with it's design flaws:(
I wouldn't be concerned. Mine is the red one in this thread. Honestly it only looks bad. They are designed this way.
Terrain Vehicles
15th December 2011, 10:46 PM
So far, we've managed to get away with not taking the body off one. But I'm sure it won't be long before we do. 
 
Timing belts can be a bit fiddly though. :p
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