View Full Version : FJ Cruiser Goes Boom.........
jerryd
8th December 2011, 11:19 PM
How lucky was this guy :eek:
Local FJ Cruiser goes Boom! - CK5 Blazer Forums (http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php't=291529)
inside
8th December 2011, 11:58 PM
I moved away from gas stoves because I hate the idea of a pressurised cylinder in an enclosed space. This guy smells acetylene and starts the vehicle anyway and he's surprised it went boom?
JDNSW
9th December 2011, 06:39 AM
Acetylene is explosive over a wide range of gas/air mixture.
As commented - he is lucky to be alive! And worth remembering if you keep your welding equipment in a reasonably airtight shed! Also points out why you should not carry gas cylinders in a closed vehicle.
Thanks for drawing attention to this incident!
John
TerryO
9th December 2011, 07:45 AM
If it was caused by an acetylene leak rather than a dodgy vindaloo the night before then this only proves again that a Fender is a better and safer option than a Tojo.
If he had stored his gas bottles in a Fender there would have been no explosion for sure ...all the gas would have leaked out through the holes in the floor and poor fitting doors. ...;)
cheers,
Terry
Bushie
9th December 2011, 08:30 AM
Those pics popped up on 4wdAction last week with a link to the US forum. From my perspective there's something not right, firstly from what is supposed to be an acetylene explosion, there is no visible burning or even heat damage that I could see, the guy was supposedly in the car when it went off and only suffered a hearing problem ???
Given (as John stated ) the explosive range of acetylene (~8-90% IIRC) I have no doubt it could be ignited by a window winder motor, the supposed ignition source, but having seen the pics from the fire investigation as a result of the plumbers van in Melbourne the two are chalk and cheese with the heat/flame effect.
Martyn
JDNSW
9th December 2011, 08:46 AM
The fact that he survived shows it was a pretty mild explosion, consistent with not much heat as shown by the damage. But if the vehicle was totally closed, it would not take much of a sudden pressure increase to do that sort of damage, particularly with a vehicle like the FJ having a lot of plastic panels. There was probably not very much acetylene involved, but it all went off at pretty much the same time. If a door had been open it would have been a lot less spectacular.
John
loanrangie
9th December 2011, 01:15 PM
Surely with that much explosive force the guys brain would be mince meat ? I dont see anyone surviving while being in the vehicle, i smell something and it isnt acetylene .
goingbush
9th December 2011, 04:25 PM
I've been in an accetylene / hydrogen explosion and I'd say it rings true both the damage and lack of heat are consistent.
It was my fault & a really stupid thing to do, I had a battery on charge in a VW Beetle , (the battery is under the back seat) so we have a hydrogen / oxeygen environment .
I had a really bad habit of starting up the gas axe by arcing the leads from my battery charger together.
So I stupidly took the Accetylene torch to the charger & turned on the Gas & struck a arc over the top of the battery - KaaBOOM.
There was a bright flash & my world went black , The door was already open on the beetle so not so much explosive force but it blew a bulge in the roof , The battery had blown out sideways & I had acid burns on my clothing but not my face. Nothing was burned, not even my eyebrows but I was deaf for a week & now suffer tinnitus.
2stroke
9th December 2011, 07:53 PM
Well he bought an FJ cruiser didn't he? Why the surprise when he starts it with gas everywhere?
Sleepy
9th December 2011, 08:31 PM
Another good reason to own a Defender. That many gaps, there is no chance of a gas build up. Pre-2002 and you have wind down window, so no ignition source!:p
Seriously though, is it possible that the explosion was instantaneous with no follow up fire. (You know like when you light a hydrogen filled ballon). Sounds like he had one window down (drivers) already and therefore shock not as bad in drivers seat area.
I know nothing about this, just supposing.
I also recognise at least one poster above knows a helluva lot more about this than me. So dont "flame" me :lol2:
easo
9th December 2011, 09:49 PM
The new FJ cruiser is a real ugly car anyway, Pacasio would be proud!
p38arover
9th December 2011, 10:48 PM
The new FJ cruiser is a real ugly car anyway, Pacasio would be proud!
So would Picasso! :angel:
Grumpy
9th December 2011, 11:02 PM
Guess you could call it being all bombed out!! Ouch :eek: :banban:
Tony :wheelchair:
3toes
10th December 2011, 06:35 AM
The way the panels have all blown out reminds me of a gun powder mill.
The sides and roof were all placed into a frame and not fixed in place.
This was so that if you got it wrong there was little to contain the blast.
Even the machinery would normally still be operative. Although the operative was not always operational.
Blknight.aus
10th December 2011, 07:47 AM
the human body's kinda soft and malleable, the steel panels trying to contain the expanding force not so much...
I can buy the outcome of a relatively low volume of properly mixed oxy/acetylene doing that much damage to a vehicle without massively harming the driver or burning the plastic panels in side.
juddy
10th December 2011, 08:06 AM
How lucky was this guy :eek:
Local FJ Cruiser goes Boom! - CK5 Blazer Forums (http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php't=291529)
You are speeding far too much time inside these days Jerry.
jerryd
10th December 2011, 08:18 AM
You are speeding far too much time inside these days Jerry.
Not by choice Justin [wink11]
Sleepy
10th December 2011, 08:42 AM
The new FJ cruiser is a real ugly car anyway, Pacasio would be proud!
So would Picasso! :angel:
Different artist Ron,
Pa-Casio - The Japanese Grandfather of the pocket Calculator. I am told he also works for Toyota ....:p
easo
10th December 2011, 09:31 AM
So would Picasso! :angel:
Different artist Ron,
Pa-Casio - The Japanese Grandfather of the pocket Calculator. I am told he also works for Toyota ....:p
Dam you spell check! ;) Its all your fault stupid FJ cruiser!!!
p38arover
10th December 2011, 11:43 AM
Dam you spell check! ;) Its all your fault stupid FJ cruiser!!!
"damn", "it's". :angel:
DeanoH
10th December 2011, 11:54 AM
You are speeding far too much time inside these days Jerry.
Perhaps slowing down will help ?
Deano:)
Blknight.aus
10th December 2011, 12:14 PM
Perhaps slowing down will help_?
Deano:)
sigh.
JDNSW
12th December 2011, 10:04 AM
To get back on topic -
Man suffers critical injuries after van explodes in Mulgrave | Herald Sun (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/man-suffers-critical-injuries-after-van-explodes-in-mulgrave/story-fn7x8me2-1226219559868)
john
Sleepy
12th December 2011, 01:31 PM
To get back on topic -
Man suffers critical injuries after van explodes in Mulgrave | Herald Sun (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/man-suffers-critical-injuries-after-van-explodes-in-mulgrave/story-fn7x8me2-1226219559868)
john
Yes very nasty. I believe the driver has not made it either. :(
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/12/732.jpg
Car explosion rocks Mulgrave (http://www.3aw.com.au/blogs/breaking-news-blog/car-explosion-rocks-mulgrave/20111212-1oq3r.html)
Discussion at work today about carrying BBQ gas bottles in vehicle and Petrol jerry cans.
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