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Hay Ewe
9th December 2011, 09:47 PM
Brought my first house :) (and in Australia :D )

but the local cats are seeming to enjoy crapping on the flower bed outside the door :mad:

As much as I would like to deter them with forceful means, those days are over and so wanting to know what plants we can plant or other natural things we can do to keep them off.

Any suggestions?

thanks

Hay Ewe

sheerluck
9th December 2011, 09:52 PM
Try planting a few landmines. Excellent deterrent.

Failing that, buy a big pot of cheap chilli powder and sprinkle that around the favourite flowerbed. Works a treat.:D

inside
9th December 2011, 09:56 PM
Simple. You just build one of these.

How to stop cats ****ing on your car, The best cat video ever! - Craig Turner - YouTube

wardy1
9th December 2011, 10:05 PM
X2 the chilli powder, just remember it's there next time you dig up the garden bed, if you rub your eyes you'll remember fast!

wrinklearthur
9th December 2011, 10:08 PM
Orange peel

RobHay
9th December 2011, 10:22 PM
aahhhummmmmm....something in black and tan.... like a rottweiler:D

isuzutoo-eh
9th December 2011, 10:24 PM
Grevillea or other prickly native shrubs.

roverfan
10th December 2011, 01:11 AM
Vinegar sprayed over everything will do the trick, thats how i stopped my wifes cats going near my cars.

3toes
10th December 2011, 06:19 AM
Had the same problem tried sonic deterrents, plants they are supposed to not like, lion poo, and such like none worked,

Know a dog is no solution as i used to own a cat which chased dogs for fun.

Best fun was a super soaker water pistol from the window. Became a crack shot able to load and fire very accurately and quickly. Even that only worked part of the time.

Most effective was Rose bush cuttings spread over the soil and garden edge. They seem to have a weak spot in their soft paws. Would watch them attempting to move the cutting and jumping back when they caught a thorn. After a while they gave up and moved on to someone elses garden.

Bearman
10th December 2011, 07:24 AM
There are commercially available deterrents available, one I have been using is called Repellent for dogs and cats that I bought from a pet store. It's in a spray bottle and seems to be working. I used to have a tomcat spraying on my County mudflaps and windscreen and around the house - we have 2 neutered females. Seems to have worked, I know the tomcat still comes around but it seems to irritate him and stops him spraying. The biggest problem is the owners - people who have tomcats, won't get them neutered and let them out at night. I even tried trapping him, but he were too cunning to go in the trap. If I could have caught him it would have went to the pound where the council puts them down if they aren't registered. Very frustrating, the smell is obnoxious in the hot weather and it's hard to get rid of it.

Sprint
10th December 2011, 08:07 AM
lead poisoning is natural!

trog
10th December 2011, 08:19 AM
common sense says that the owners should not allow them to roam freely. delivery any solid gifts back to the owner , if known . or get a trap from the council and post a few notices before use. there is a trade in cat fur winter apparil too !

101RRS
10th December 2011, 09:28 AM
I had that problem a few years back - so I dug the bed up a bit to loosen the dirt and if anything make it more attractive to puss. I then dug out the dirt and laid six loaded mouse traps in the depression then gently covered them over with the loose dirt.

Sorted the cats right out - mouse traps are enough to scare but not hurt - I would have preferred to use rat traps but might have caused trouble with the neighbours when kitty went back home with rat traps for shoes.:twisted:

Did something similar when doggy was raiding the garbage bin - filled it with balloons covering them with garbage - busting balloons scared the crap out of doggy and she would not go near the bins for 6 six months by which time here courage returned and tried again - the balloons fixed that :twisted:

abaddonxi
10th December 2011, 09:33 AM
Dig a sandpit, they'll leave everything else in the garden alone.

ramblingboy42
10th December 2011, 09:58 AM
craig turner you should have your own tv show

roverfan
10th December 2011, 06:06 PM
Poor cats, I think advising the neighbors you will be setting traps and going that route is the best. Some councils will even supply them for you and the owners can then go to the pound, pay the fees and hopefully learn a lesson.

goingbush
10th December 2011, 06:25 PM
Best trick is when you catch the cat take them across the other side of town & give them to a council over there, the owners will never come looking.

If a cat comes into my place the neighbours know by now they will never see it again. Now they either dont have cats or are responsible cat owners !!

you could also buy a Ford KA

ford ka - YouTube

incisor
10th December 2011, 08:58 PM
anyone that uses slow acting poison to kill an animal deserves the same treatment.

grow some balls and hold the owners accountable not condemn the animals to slow painful deaths.

Hall
10th December 2011, 08:58 PM
Yet another home remedy. This one I have used with success. Cloudy ammonia. Buy it in the laundry section of a super market. Nasty stuff. Sprinkle it about where the cats are not meant to be. Either the smell will deter them or if they are both really stupid and stubborn the ammonia will burn there feet when they walk on it. Won`t burn much only enough to get rid of them. Would also I`m guessing be rather unpleasant to lick of.
Cheers Hall

rijidij
10th December 2011, 09:08 PM
.........or other natural things we can do to keep them off...............

I'm pretty sure these devises are made from 'naturally' occurring substances.
They remove unwanted cats very quickly and are painless if used correctly. Even if not used to full accuracy, they are usually successful in changing the cat's attitude to occupying your property.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/12/793.jpg



VVVVV Tempting isn't it ???? VVVVV

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/12/794.jpg

:wasntme:

scarry
10th December 2011, 10:27 PM
Never had a problem at our place,always had a dog or two:)a doberman & aSpringer spaniel will never give up.

One of my brothers had a lot of problems with cats,he sorted them with a high powered water pistol filled with bleach,moves them on real quick.

Another thing that helps is a battery operated electric fence thingy,takes 4 D cells,available from farm supply places.You just run a bit of fencing wire about 200mm off the ground using cut off pieces of electrical conduit as posts.Then push a short piece of copper pipe into the ground as an earth.One touch of a cat's nose on the wire & it will never be back:)

Sleepy
10th December 2011, 10:46 PM
hold the owners accountable

If you can identify the owner. Most cats in my area dont carry id.

I like the "super soaker" with a mixture of watered down vingear with a "dash" of tobasco sauce or chilli powder. A direct hit up the pukker and you dont see them for a while.:twisted:

Love that video.

goingbush
10th December 2011, 10:50 PM
anyone that uses slow acting poison to kill an animal deserves the same treatment.

grow some balls and hold the owners accountable not condemn the animals to slow painful deaths.

So you never used ratsak ??

What about the controlled offically sanctioned release of 1080 & other poisons.

Nothing to do with testicular fortitude

As far as Im concerned any cat / fox that comes onto my property is fair game. be it feral or domestic. Council have declared cats are vermin & need to be confined within the owners yard & not let outdoors at night.
Cats are predators & higly destructive to native wildlife. Belive me I dont like to see any animal suffer either but I'd rather a cat crawl away & die than come out to another dead chicken in the morning.

www.chookcam.com

clubagreenie
10th December 2011, 10:53 PM
We have two roaming down to our place from two doors up, no id etc. Know they are killing birds etc as they are always bloody around the mouth. Getting into the kids cubby etc.

Suggestions as while I'm up for slingshots, supersoakers etc not into sitting up late at night when it's around. I know dencorub is a cack with the dogs. We had a rottie and in the end show him the box and he'd run a mile.

85 county
10th December 2011, 10:56 PM
its so simple. .410 and as your in the burbs add a 2 ltr coke bottle

Sprint
11th December 2011, 08:12 AM
Chook Cam (http://www.chookcam.com)

love it!

mikehzz
11th December 2011, 08:42 AM
All cat problems are caused by their incredibly stupid owners. My wife has had cats for over 30 frickin years so I know a few things about them. You HAVE to desex them, the earlier the better. Otherwise they **** all over everything, the girls do too. It reduces the noise they make and also reduces any tendency to fight. Your yard needs to be cat proof. Six foot colour bond fences with nothing near the edge will pull them up. They have to be locked up at night.
A free roaming undesexed cat is usually a smelly, noisy pain in the arse with only one thing on its mind and is the reason people seem to hate them. Most desexed cats are actually quite a nice pet. I've seen the most ardent cat haters won over by a good natured desexed cat.
I'm not a cat lover. I've met cats I like and I've met cats I don't like. They are just like people in that regard. Owning a pet cat is MUCH more difficult to do responsibly than owning a dog.

tonic
11th December 2011, 09:14 AM
All cat problems are caused by their incredibly stupid owners. My wife has had cats for over 30 frickin years so I know a few things about them. You HAVE to desex them, the earlier the better. Otherwise they **** all over everything, the girls do too. It reduces the noise they make and also reduces any tendency to fight. Your yard needs to be cat proof. Six foot colour bond fences with nothing near the edge will pull them up. They have to be locked up at night.
A free roaming undesexed cat is usually a smelly, noisy pain in the arse with only one thing on its mind and is the reason people seem to hate them. Most desexed cats are actually quite a nice pet. I've seen the most ardent cat haters won over by a good natured desexed cat.
I'm not a cat lover. I've met cats I like and I've met cats I don't like. They are just like people in that regard. Owning a pet cat is MUCH more difficult to do responsibly than owning a dog.

Well said

tonic
11th December 2011, 09:21 AM
anyone that uses slow acting poison to kill an animal deserves the same treatment.

grow some balls and hold the owners accountable not condemn the animals to slow painful deaths.

The type of owners who let these animals roam free are not capable of seeing what they are doing wrong. The only true solution is to get rid of their cat. I would not like using a slow solution, but the best and fastest solution is noisy and brings out the do gooders.

dullbird
11th December 2011, 09:34 AM
So you never used ratsak ??

What about the controlled offically sanctioned release of 1080 & other poisons.

Nothing to do with testicular fortitude

As far as Im concerned any cat / fox that comes onto my property is fair game. be it feral or domestic. Council have declared cats are vermin & need to be confined within the owners yard & not let outdoors at night.
Cats are predators & higly destructive to native wildlife.
Belive me I dont like to see any animal suffer either but I'd rather a cat crawl away & die than come out to another dead chicken in the morning.www.chookcam.com (http://www.chookcam.com)

Then Lock up your chickens better!!!..

I dont know a great deal of people that like 1080 and are trying to get banned...its effective but non selective...

I often read the I hate cat threads and I generally dont get offended by things in it as I take most of it tongue and cheek.

but telling people to slow poison them or hit them with bleach is just bloody outrageous!! feral or not. No animal feral or not deserves to be treated in a way that they walk off and take days to die and suffer just because they come and **** on your flowers.

you would probably be outraged if someone poisoned your dog in the same manner just because it ****ed the neighbours off while barking all night.

dullbird
11th December 2011, 09:42 AM
We have two roaming down to our place from two doors up, no id etc. Know they are killing birds etc as they are always bloody around the mouth. Getting into the kids cubby etc.

Suggestions as while I'm up for slingshots, supersoakers etc not into sitting up late at night when it's around. I know dencorub is a cack with the dogs. We had a rottie and in the end show him the box and he'd run a mile.

You don't know they don't have ID unless you have scanned them.

Hire a trap place it on your property trap them and take them to the pound. Owners have to pay to get them out and if you keep doing it eventually the owners will realise that its becoming a very costly exercise and should do something about it.

If you do trap them and they are feral they will be humanely euthanased anyway, and likely if they dont have ID and the owners do not come to pick them up they will still be euthanased after their holding period.

If you talk nicely to a council ranger they may even lend you a trap

mick88
11th December 2011, 02:16 PM
About twenty years ago we built a new house in a rural area and had a tom cat squirting on the back door.
I emptied the pepper shaker on the door step.
Never had a problem with the cat again. Apparently they have a nice big sniff before they squirt...and pepper is not to their liking.

Cheers, Mick.

goingbush
11th December 2011, 02:52 PM
Then Lock up your chickens better!!!..



The sort of response typical of an irresponsible cat owner.
They cant control the cat so direct their frustration to the victim instead.



https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

dullbird
11th December 2011, 05:45 PM
The sort of response typical of an irresponsible cat owner.
They cant control the cat so direct their frustration to the victim instead.


Hi Victim:p

That's interesting it must be typical of dog owners too because I dont have cat:D

The only way cats would be getting your chooks is if the pen in which you have (or had) built is not secure...

Cats will not dig or destroy a pen to get in to kill chooks (they would probably have a go if they were free ranging though), but foxes will they are far more cunning so if this is happening I would suggest foxes are your problem more so than cats.

I agree with you though a lot of cat owners are very irresponsible. how ever it is not easy to train a cat to stay in a yard, the responsible thing for an owner to do would be to build a cat park within their premise (not always practical), or keep the cat inside.

When this doesn't happen just trap the cat and take it to the pound, I don't believe there is a need to make an animal suffer just because the owner is not responsible its not the animals fault the animal is only following its natural instinct which is stronger in some then others:)

scarry
11th December 2011, 06:14 PM
saw a documentary on domestic cats a while ago,they put GPS tracking devices on them.Much to the amazement of the owners,some were doing a 20K jaunt every night.

goingbush
11th December 2011, 06:44 PM
Hi Victim:p

That's interesting it must be typical of dog owners too because I dont have cat:D



I didnt say YOU were an irresponsible cat owner, I said it was the sort of response typical of an irresponsible cat owner.

Thanks for your comments, Yes I know Foxes (and some dogs) are also problem , we lost 4 chooks in one weekend away, thats why our new chook enclosure is 100% fox / cat (but not rat) proof, and yes we do like to let the chooks free range, and yes the cats do stalk them, our video survelance pick up about dozens of cats and only one fox , no dogs, on the way to the chook pen.

I agree with your sentiments and like I said before I do hate to see any animal suffer, but cats beware.

woody
11th December 2011, 07:22 PM
I dont know a great deal of people that like 1080 and are trying to get banned...its effective but non selective...


with out entering into the cat debate, I am one of those people that stand up and say that 1080 poison is a valuable tool in controlling feral animals. To say that it isn't selective is a bit of a furphy. It is a naturally occurring poison derived from native trees and is highly effective on canines and less effective on cats. It is very difficult to kill a rat with it.

I had one of my working dogs die from a bait that I had laid to control feral dogs, it was very fast acting and from what I could see relatively pain free for the dog. Poison should always be the last resort.

woody

clubagreenie
11th December 2011, 07:34 PM
You don't know they don't have ID unless you have scanned them.

Hire a trap place it on your property trap them and take them to the pound. Owners have to pay to get them out and if you keep doing it eventually the owners will realise that its becoming a very costly exercise and should do something about it.

If you do trap them and they are feral they will be humanely euthanased anyway, and likely if they dont have ID and the owners do not come to pick them up they will still be euthanased after their holding period.

If you talk nicely to a council ranger they may even lend you a trap


If I catch 'em they ain't going to no pound. Got one with the broom going all javelin on it this morning. I'd gone outside to use the other (read my) lavvy and it must have been under the table scared initially and then when I came out we were eye to eye. I inconspicuously grabbed the broom as it made a run stupidly past me for it's own yard. The brrom head and it's head met head on.

dullbird
11th December 2011, 07:43 PM
If I catch 'em they ain't going to no pound. Got one with the broom going all javelin on it this morning. I'd gone outside to use the other (read my) lavvy and it must have been under the table scared initially and then when I came out we were eye to eye. I inconspicuously grabbed the broom as it made a run stupidly past me for it's own yard. The brrom head and it's head met head on.

Did you injury/Kill it?

You know admitting online that you have deliberately taken a broom to a cats head is not very clever.

incisor
11th December 2011, 08:03 PM
So you never used ratsak ??

What about the controlled offically sanctioned release of 1080 & other poisons.

Nothing to do with testicular fortitude

not that i recall

no never, but have shot a few things.

and i beg to differ, in the context of the original post and intent of the thread, it has been my experience that it has heaps to do with it.

clubagreenie
11th December 2011, 08:05 PM
I just threw the broom. The cat got in the way.

drivesafe
11th December 2011, 08:31 PM
I know of two choices.

A bowl of milk and 3 aspros, quick and permanent.

OR

Spray metho around the areas they frequent, the ipecac gets on the paws and they lick it it. This won’t kill them but sure as hell p!sses them off.

Hi Dullbird and while I can understand your feelings but being as these cats are in other people’s yards and the cat’s owners don’t care, so why should the people being bothered by these cats care?

dullbird
11th December 2011, 08:42 PM
I know of two choices.

A bowl of milk and 3 aspros, quick and permanent.

OR

Spray metho around the areas they frequent, the ipecac gets on the paws and they lick it it. This won’t kill them but sure as hell p!sses them off.


Hi Dullbird and while I can understand your feelings but being as these cats are in other people’s yards and the cat’s owners don’t care, so why should the people being bothered by these cats care?

Hey Drivesafe
do other people know that their cats are in other peoples yards?? probably not...even if they dont care should an animal be made to suffer because of this?
even if you dont care about cats should that mean you should not use humane methods?
You asked why they should care if the owners don't care..I have answered this further back..because the cat does not know it is doing anything wrong, it is doing what comes naturally too it.

The original poster asked for natural ways to deter cats, like all cat threads it seems to become a free for all to see who can do the most horrible things to them.

Don't get me wrong I get it, I'm not a huge cat lover myself and I get that A LOT of people dislike cats for very many and varied reasons...

does this mean we should make them suffer? I dont think so
is it relevant to this thread considering what the original poster asked? I dont think so.

Do I think that anyone in here will really listen to me? probably not but if I have made one person at least think about it then I'm happy.

Doing it the humane way does take some effort like setting a trap and actually taking ti to the pound..I think thats the problem in a lot of situations people just couldn't be bothered:)

Bearman
11th December 2011, 08:49 PM
I'm with you Lou!!!

dullbird
11th December 2011, 08:54 PM
for want of trying to get this thread a little bit more back on track

too the Original poster another thing you can try

half filled jars of water or hang a cd near....cats dont like sudden flickers of light the water pics up light and shines it on the ground they dont like this the CD does the same but I think beter as it moves more....however it is uglier. especially if you have to crack out Neil Diamond:D..maybe trying playing it that could poss work to, I reckon it would keep humans away let alone cats

There have been some good suggestions in here regarding peppers etc

Failing that plant some catnip in your neighbours yard hahahahaha problem solved well for you anyway :D

drivesafe
11th December 2011, 09:05 PM
Hi again Dullbird, and my wife owns a dog and my daughter owns a cat.

The dog was trained from a pup not to chase the wildlife.

The cat is never allowed out and we live in an area with a large diversity of bird life and I am so fed up with chasing other people’s cats out of my yard and as for telling people their cats are killing the wildlife, the retard next door is highly amused when her kitty comes home with a bird hanging out of it’s mouth.

The same bitch thinks it’s funny to show her visitors how she has trained her dog to chase all the birds.

It’s all good and well to go down the PC path, but it’s got to work but rarely does.

So where do you draw the line, the neighbours uncontrolled cats or the wildlife?

Know where my vote goes.

isuzutoo-eh
11th December 2011, 09:05 PM
Do I think that anyone in here will really listen to me? probably not but if I have made one person at least think about it then I'm happy.


Hey Lou, because of previous chats on this topic with you I actually made a non-violent suggestion and left the cruelty out for a change! Your efforts don't always fall on deaf ears...:)

clubagreenie
11th December 2011, 09:09 PM
I actually made a flyer and deposited them into a few surrounding the offending house pointing out the obvious. That was six months ago and included pics of said cats roaming in the street to no avail.

Tim, train the dog to come home with the neighbor in its mouth.

dullbird
11th December 2011, 09:16 PM
Hi again Dullbird, and my wife owns a dog and my daughter owns a cat.

The dog was trained from a pup not to chase the wildlife.

The cat is never allowed out and we live in an area with a large diversity of bird life and I am so fed up with chasing other people’s cats out of my yard and as for telling people their cats are killing the wildlife, the retard next door is highly amused when her kitty comes home with a bird hanging out of it’s mouth.

The same bitch thinks it’s funny to show her visitors how she has trained her dog to chase all the birds.

It’s all good and well to go down the PC path, but it’s got to work but rarely does.

So where do you draw the line, the neighbours uncontrolled cats or the wildlife?

Know where my vote goes.

the line is drawn by yourself and the choice make
you can chose to act in a number of ways.

I just hope by people reading this thread they will make the humane choice, especially as the outcome will likely be the same.

LandyAndy
11th December 2011, 09:16 PM
I dont like cats.
They are effecient killing machines.
HOWEVER.
We(the Mrs and Boy) have a pair of cats.They are spayed,microchipped,and confined to the house MOST of the day and EVERY nite.They still present their prize catches,dont mind the mice and rats,they are doing their job.It really annoys me when I see them playing with birds lizzards and frogs,if you dont catch them intime they are history:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
We have huge problems with strays,attacking our cats even inside the house(come in thru the cat door).
We also have a neighbor in the next street that runs a cat trap constantly,I have over heard him bragging that he loves returning the cats he catches to their owner.
We got one last week,strategically placed so Deb would step in it getting into her Defender.It was our next door neighbors cat,I did point out to them who does this stuff.
Andrew

dullbird
11th December 2011, 09:17 PM
I actually made a flyer and deposited them into a few surrounding the offending house pointing out the obvious. That was six months ago and included pics of said cats roaming in the street to no avail.

Tim, train the dog to come home with the neighbor in its mouth.

What part of Sydney do you live in?

clubagreenie
11th December 2011, 10:46 PM
Seven Hills/Blacktown area.

Hay Ewe
12th December 2011, 10:50 AM
Morning all

I never expected that to go to 6 pages, anyway, thanks for all the ideas / suggestions.

The chilli powder / pepper has been laid and I am going to investigate a small electric fence fence as well.

Super soaker / Nerf gun, I no longer have the enthusiasm to be up at all hours waiting for 'the moment', as fun as it might be.

I thought teh film clip was funny and possible but an electric fence might be easier

I shall report back

thanks

Hay Ewe

JohnF
12th December 2011, 11:18 AM
friends cats who alway came inside their house one day would not go near the house and were terrified of it. Then a big carpet snake crawled out.

so a carpet snake will keep them away.

But carpet snake will also eat you chooks/budgie, etc.

goingbush
13th December 2011, 05:14 PM
Actually, Lemon Juice combined with Craig Turners technology works a treat

lemon juice cat repellant.mov - YouTube

adonuff
13th December 2011, 06:46 PM
If I was to let my German Shepherd roam the streets at night I would expect to be fined or worse loose her or have her run over or injured. Both of us go to great lenghts to socialise the dog, she visits kindergartens, state schools the elderly and goes to training every week .
We do this to as responsible pet owners we care for our pets.

Anyone that lets there cat roam free at night/day deserves to loose it! This is not responsible. There is nothing worse than working in the vegi patch and finding an unwanted deposit or the smell of cat urine in other areas of the garden.

The damage to wild life is another good reason to keep them If the family dog was allowed to roam free and bring down larger native aminals such as possums, roos wombats wandering cats etc. Ther would be a huge fuss!
In, in the end I think it comes down to lazyness on the cat owners part, a few hundred bucks to build a run for them would almost guareentee their cats would not get subjected to some of the home remedies shown on here !

crump
13th December 2011, 10:08 PM
I've never had any interest in discouraging pussy from coming to my house?:wasntme:

digger
13th December 2011, 10:20 PM
http://goingbush.com/landy/catlr.jpg

Not buying into this either way...

BUT its an English car, thats an American sticker! (no offence intended to any yanks on this forum...especially if that MEANZ you!!! :) )
(sorry but I hate the spelling like "TIRES" and "NITE" bits that are creeping into our society.) I have seen that sticker with correct spelling if that helps.

My 2c worth (without GST because really this was not a service to anyone!)