D4 NO Nav to Nav !

[sniegy]

Hi all,
Having a lazy Sunday at home on the interweb & looking into the possibilities
of upping to a nice Nav screen or something like this !!!!

Google Translate (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dchr%2B7060%2Blr%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D100 1%26bih%3D512%26prmd%3Dimvns&rurl=translate.google.com.au&sl=ru&u=http://www.unicar-m.ru/news-319/Intro-CHR-7060(LRF-LRD-LRS)-Land-Rover-Pack/&usg=ALkJrhh048NoOXIfpcme6vDPAKWxCfwcTw)

The unit model is a CHR 7060 , but trying to find one closer than Russia is a little harder than first thought.

The thinking continues....:p

After converting the currency 50900 Russian Rubles to Aus Dollars....$1,595.00 not delivered

[Ferret]

Interesting how it integrates with the existing audio components but where do you get the 50,900 RUB price tag?

Says on one of the links from your link.

"Price Intro CHR-7060XC, a complete set of navigation module with monitor, DVD player, the mounting frame and all the accessories of 29,900.00 rubles.
The cost of a full installation of Navi-DVD-Aux 8,000.00 RUB"

So seems to be more like 30,000 RUB + installation which I guess is zero if you do it your self.

[sniegy]

Hey Ferret,
Third link down, at the bottom it says
Package 30900 Rubels
Installation....
Adaptor info display 20000
Installation....

Not exactly sure of what you get & what kit has what, so only a guesstimation at the moment ;)

[Disco4SE]

Hey Ferret,
Third link down, at the bottom it says
Package 30900 Rubels
Installation....
Adaptor info display 20000
Installation....

Not exactly sure of what you get & what kit has what, so only a guesstimation at the moment ;)
Hey Pete, can you let me know if your investigations find it worthwhile?
If enough people jump on board, we could do a group buy and save some money on frieght costs.

Cheers, Craig

[sniegy]

Craig,
Already thinking that. ;)

[Tombie]

They're on eBay too!


"Where the Desert meets the Sea"
'Did I mention some great 4WDriving is just 5 minutes from home?'

[Disco4SE]

They're on eBay too!'

Hey Tombie, are you able to paste the ebay link???

Pete: Let me know how you go.
I'm sure we could organize some sort of group buy.

Cheers, Craig

[Tombie]

Shall look it up when I get home guys.... :cool:

[CaverD3]

Runs on windows CE.
Does it integrtae with High line systems with the touch screen?
Graphics are nice though. Thinking if doing similar with centrafuse using a PC.

[Disco4SE]

Hey guys, any progress with investigations on the after market Sat Nav???

Cheers, Craig

[Tombie]

Yes...

I have a few leads on Hi End aftermarket as well...

Just need to get home early enough to put it all online

[Robocop]

Are you looking at a replacement audio/nav? I've got the low line audio & have found Clarion & Alpine replacements but I'm not 100% satisfied as yet. I have a thread here & on Disco4 sites.

[Disco4SE]

Are you looking at a replacement audio/nav? I've got the low line audio & have found Clarion & Alpine replacements but I'm not 100% satisfied as yet. I have a thread here & on Disco4 sites.

Robocop, the one that I was thinking of is an add on, not a replacement.

Cheers, Craig

[Robocop]

The add on is reasonably simpleton components however that monochrome screen needs to be relocated or it's signal added to the Nav screen or monitor as an added input.

[Robocop]

Simple...

[outasight]

I'm watching with great interest too! Can't input anything, but willing to help if possible.

Regards,

Les.

[jonesy63]

Regarding the Chinese ones on eBay, I asked the vendor a while ago about them and while they do run Windows CE - there is no way to modify them yourself. So you can't stick OziExplorer on, etc. :mad:

[~Rich~]

I've got a mate who has done this many times, I'll get some info for you on how to do it.

[Graeme]

I changed mine to run Ozi too by using a front-end "GPS" menu that has buttons for both programs.

I haven't used an in-dash screen so don't know how well they can be seen but my 7" mounted in front of the base model screen swivels so that it can face directly at me for best viewing, which is especially good when using Ozi and with the reversing camera.

[~Rich~]

Here is the link:
Hi Richard,
You need to load a shell to access WinCE ..
It's a bit tricky and may brick the unit if something goes wrong ...
I used "Visual" and it can be found here www.lanik.org (http://www.lanik.org/) ...
Click on Projects > Scroll down to the GPS Project > Read the instructions VERY carefully ..
The project is for a Mio Moov (mine is a Mio A470 Moov) but will also work on all GPS's running WinCE .. Hopefully ...
Good luck and if the GPS bricks I take no responsibility .. LOL ..
Cheers
Jim

www.lanik.org (http://projects.lanik.org/GPSProject.htm)

[Disco4pilot]

Has anyone made any progress on fitting nav?

Graeme how did you mount your screen? Is there a post with pics or could you post some.

Cheers

[Disco4pilot]

I managed to email the Russian website unicar and asked about how they put the monochrome non touch screen on the 7 inch touch screen and they were very helpful in perfect English. They have a windows CE car computer that comes with a bracket to replace the non touch screen (looks identical to the Land Rover one) and a DVD player that goes into the glove compartment. The audio just plugs into the aux input on the factory stereo. This comes with navigation software and a bunch of display options. They said they could install Igo 8.3 with maps for Australia but also that it is not locked so you can install any windows CE application (oziexplorer for the off road). I've got Igo in my patrol and it is great. He said he could put it up on eBay with PayPal so you have some buyers protection in case it doesn't work / turn up!

Now for the scary part... The price...

For the computer / screen / and DVD player it's $1000USD and if you want to put the non touch screen display onto the touch screen the video converter is $550USD if you don't use this you have to relocate the screen so you can use the radio and Bluetooth factory functions. They can also supply a reversing camera for $200USD but I think you could easily get one locally cheaper. So all up you are looking at close to $1600 plus installation (if you are not happy to do it yourself) certainly an expensive option compared to a Chinese eBay option but not too bad if you compare with the factory option plus you get way more functionality.

I'm still undecided but if I do end up purchasing I'll post how it all goes. If anyone wants Michael at unicars email address just PM me.

Cheers

[Disco4SE]

I managed to email the Russian website unicar and asked about how they put the monochrome non touch screen on the 7 inch touch screen and they were very helpful in perfect English. They have a windows CE car computer that comes with a bracket to replace the non touch screen (looks identical to the Land Rover one) and a DVD player that goes into the glove compartment. The audio just plugs into the aux input on the factory stereo. This comes with navigation software and a bunch of display options. They said they could install Igo 8.3 with maps for Australia but also that it is not locked so you can install any windows CE application (oziexplorer for the off road). I've got Igo in my patrol and it is great. He said he could put it up on eBay with PayPal so you have some buyers protection in case it doesn't work / turn up!

Now for the scary part... The price...

For the computer / screen / and DVD player it's $1000USD and if you want to put the non touch screen display onto the touch screen the video converter is $550USD if you don't use this you have to relocate the screen so you can use the radio and Bluetooth factory functions. They can also supply a reversing camera for $200USD but I think you could easily get one locally cheaper. So all up you are looking at close to $1600 plus installation (if you are not happy to do it yourself) certainly an expensive option compared to a Chinese eBay option but not too bad if you compare with the factory option plus you get way more functionality.

I'm still undecided but if I do end up purchasing I'll post how it all goes. If anyone wants Michael at unicars email address just PM me.

Cheers

Thanks Disco4pilot for doing all the homework.
I myself are keen to go ahead. If we get enough interest, there could be some savings on freight......Sniegy????

Cheers, Craig

[CaverD3]

If it is that easy then you should be able to use the small screen input signal to any PC ot CE device.
They seem to charge like wounded bulls.

[Robocop]

For that price I'd rather go down my path & use a 7" alpine monitor with the hidden nav module plugged into the aux for sound. There's also the option of adding cameras, iPod & more.

I got an interesting reply from
Black box solutions on the canbus system but I'm in the car at the moment, I'll update later.

[CaverD3]

If I can get the small screen input up separately I would put an in car PC under the drivers seat and runn everythin through that.

[Graeme]

Here's an early pic of my $300 unit with the power lead still hanging down the console, whereas now its hidden. The cardboard visor could be a little more up-market. I'll add a pic of the mount shortly.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/01/479.jpg

[Disco4pilot]

If I can get the small screen input up separately I would put an in car PC under the drivers seat and runn everythin through that.

That is an option I am also considering however you would still have to purchase the video signal converter ($550) and I think it could be difficult to integrate the screen as neatly into the dash.

I guess you could try and purchase a factory bracket for a touch screen from LR and then find a screen that fits. My guess is that this is easier said than done.

[Disco4pilot]

For that price I'd rather go down my path & use a 7" alpine monitor with the hidden nav module plugged into the aux for sound. There's also the option of adding cameras, iPod & more.

I got an interesting reply from
Black box solutions on the canbus system but I'm in the car at the moment, I'll update later.

Robocop how are you going to mount the alpine monitor? Are you going to just move the screen when you want to access the factory display?

[Disco4pilot]

Hey Disco4se and others

I have asked Michael a few more questions and he is going to get back to me later today. I guess it is rather early in Russia!

I'll defiantly ask if it would be cheaper for two or more at least postage may be cheaper.

As I said I haven't made up my mind but this is how I will try and justify it to myself and more difficultly my wife...

1) Looks factory and bolted down so more difficult for a would be thief to smash a window and just grab the screen (Honey just think how expensive a new window will be :D )

2) Hard wired so will always have the reverse camera working. Would be massively ****ty to hit something or someone when your non hard wired unit was in the glovebox...

3) The awesomeness of having the land rover screen still visible for the Bluetooth phone function and the show off factor.

4) The shear joy of pulling apart the interior on my new (to me) Disco 4 interior to fit it :p

[Disco4SE]

At this stage, I'm still prepared to part with the money to have something fit neatly into the dash that looks like it is meant be there.

Cheers, Craig

[Robocop]

Well I was going to move the factory display into top glove box, the monitor, you can make anything fit if you want it too..

I'll be heading to the install shop next week for a trial fit on a few models.

Although we've found a can-bus adaptor that will work with the steering wheel controls/ handbrake/ speed pulse/ ignition I still can't solve the system time issue which the whole car needs.

I'm left with integrating the factory system, which is fine for what I want. I'm still interested to see if someone has managed to get the signal from the factory display to work on a monitor.

Who would have thought of all things, time would be the issue!

[CaverD3]

There were a few 7" touch screens which fitted in the D3 screen space so should not be a problem to make it look factory fit. The problem is what to do with the other screen if you can't input it to the new touch screen.

[Robocop]

We measured the space to be exactly double din.. so there are possibilities. I only say Alpine as that's what my local is pushing, I've seen a nice Clarion split system & Kenwood.

[Disco4pilot]

Keep us posted Robocop. How much do you think your setup will cost?

[Robocop]

Well I've said it before, it wasn't my choice to have the lowline system, I bought my D4 off the floor. Yes I saved 5k, I'm hoping to do it for under 2k.

[Graeme]

Pics of the brackets for my screen. Steel would be sturdier than the thin aluminium although the screen bracket sits on the dash so doesn't move much.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/01/469.jpg

The plastic cover has been trimmed underneath to provide a gap for the bracket to emerge.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/01/470.jpg

[rmp]

For in-car nav I reckon you can't go by an Android tablet running Oziexplorer, which has just been updated to version 1.1. Android tablets come in sizes from 4" (well, that's a phone) to 7" and 10.1" diagonal screens. And they do so much more than navigation.

[Disco4pilot]

For in-car nav I reckon you can't go by an Android tablet running Oziexplorer, which has just been updated to version 1.1. Android tablets come in sizes from 4" (well, that's a phone) to 7" and 10.1" diagonal screens. And they do so much more than navigation.

Can you set an android tab to automatically turn on and show reverse cam?

[rmp]

Can you set an android tab to automatically turn on and show reverse cam?

Good question. I don't know, but I expect it would be possible somehow. I wasn't thinking of a reverse camera though.

[jonesy63]

I was searching around last night and found this:
Special Car DVD Player Navi for Land Rover Discovery 4 (http://www.autocardvdgps.com/discovery-4-navi-dvd/457-for-land-rover-discovery-4-special-car-dvd-player-navigation-system-with-hd-lcd-monitor.html)

Promotional video here:
7 Car DVD Player GPS Radio For Land Rover Discovery 4 www.autocardvdgps.com - YouTube

Looks an interesting prospect - much cheaper than other options.

I have sent them a request - kicking tyres for arranging a group buy.

Let's see what they come back with! :cool:

Cheers,
Rob

[jonesy63]

BTW, the video features a D3, but the item site definitely shows a D4 base dash. :angel:

[Robocop]

Looks promising... but what's it got to do with Moonlight Sonata ;-p

[Robocop]

Is this a straight plug in with the factory loom or is it working over the top? We still need to figure out of it talks to the canbus first. If you pull your stereo out then the battery goes flat (like mine did yesterday) how is the vehicle date & time adjusted? Mine went back to 01/01/2009 midday. I've been advised incorrect time & date will affect the fault logging.

[Robocop]

Actually it says can-bus down the bottom. For 600 it's a cheap price considering the alternatives. I'll take one for the team & order.

[Disco4SE]

Hey, well done Rob.
Looks like everyones homework is paying off.
This looks better than the Russian system...............and cheaper.

Please let me know if you wish to do a group buy.

Cheers, Craig

[Robocop]

Hey, well done Rob.
Looks like everyones homework is paying off.
This looks better than the Russian system...............and cheaper.

Please let me know if you wish to do a group buy.

Cheers, Craig

I'm fine for a group buy, I do think before 20 of these are ordered we need a Guinea Pig. Im still skeptical.

Rob

[Disco4SE]

Happy to be the Guinea Pig Rob, but I'm not too tech savy, so wouldnt be able to pass on the pro's & con's.

Would be able to assist (financially) to someone that is willing to check it out.

Cheers, Craig

[Robocop]

Its all good, i'm financial & have a little bit of knowledge on car audio. I purchased a Faultmate MSV-2 Extreme due to arrive next week so if I go too bad at least that may tell me whats wrong. My main concerns are how well it integrates with the vehicles Can-Bus system. I know the D3 is different to the D4 but no one seems to have the answers yet.

Cheers Rob :twisted:

[Disco4SE]

Its all good, i'm financial & have a little bit of knowledge on car audio. I purchased a Faultmate MSV-2 Extreme due to arrive next week so if I go too bad at least that may tell me whats wrong. My main concerns are how well it integrates with the vehicles Can-Bus system. I know the D3 is different to the D4 but no one seems to have the answers yet.

Cheers Rob :twisted:

Keep us posted Rob.
Its looking good so far.

Cheers, Craig

[outasight]

This new link from jonesy63 Rob is the same unit as the Russian source, but will have no included interface/converter for the oem base b/w lcd signal. Even the Russian site added that as a optional extra.

As far as the Nav software, if it runs on Win CE 6.0, it will run on this unit. I like iGo8 which is the easiest to get & run for the city, can't help or advise on anything else like Ozi Explorer until I try it ...

Robocop Rob - I'm also willing to tip in for your trial efforts which will pay off for, or save, all of us.

Regards,

Les.

[Disco4pilot]

I was searching around last night and found this:
Special Car DVD Player Navi for Land Rover Discovery 4 (http://www.autocardvdgps.com/discovery-4-navi-dvd/457-for-land-rover-discovery-4-special-car-dvd-player-navigation-system-with-hd-lcd-monitor.html)

Promotional video here:
7 Car DVD Player GPS Radio For Land Rover Discovery 4 www.autocardvdgps.com - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4WWo_GzFbw)

Looks an interesting prospect - much cheaper than other options.

I have sent them a request - kicking tyres for arranging a group buy.

Let's see what they come back with! :

Cheers,
Rob

Very keen on this so count me in for group buy. I think Disco4se would be keen as well. Let us know how you go. Thanks for posting.:D

[jonesy63]

Its all good, i'm financial & have a little bit of knowledge on car audio. I purchased a Faultmate MSV-2 Extreme due to arrive next week so if I go too bad at least that may tell me whats wrong. My main concerns are how well it integrates with the vehicles Can-Bus system. I know the D3 is different to the D4 but no one seems to have the answers yet.

Cheers Rob :twisted:

Cool Rob! We need to make sure your trial of this unit is tied to the group buy.

Les - I agree, I use iGo for onroad and I reckon it's fantastic. :cool:

I've installed OziExplorer on a YF 6" standalone (Chinese) GPS running WinCE 6 and it works fine - but the extra 1" screen size will help.

Note that it is Chinese New Year at the moment, so I wouldn't expect a reply until next week.

Happy Australia Day everyone! :BigThumb::banana:

[Robocop]

It's giving me a headache.

[jonesy63]

A headache now? Ouch! Doesn't bode well for tomorrow! :D

[Robocop]

I know & I'm still at the pub lol!!

[jonesy63]

I'll drink to that! :cool::D

[Disco4pilot]

This new link from jonesy63 Rob is the same unit as the Russian source, but will have no included interface/converter for the oem base b/w lcd signal. Even the Russian site added that as a optional extra.

As far as the Nav software, if it runs on Win CE 6.0, it will run on this unit. I like iGo8 which is the easiest to get & run for the city, can't help or advise on anything else like Ozi Explorer until I try it ...

Robocop Rob - I'm also willing to tip in for your trial efforts which will pay off for, or save, all of us.

Regards,

Les.

If its the same as the Rusian one then it works on top of the factory stereo so shouldn't affect the vehicle time (even if it is a replacement for the factory one I'm sure you could add it as an extra instead and just use the amp out into the aux in to solve canbus issues then just move the old screen or buy a converter off eBay)

Hope everyone had a good Aussieday. My head is hurting this morning!!

[jonesy63]

Hi Folks,
I just received the following reply from the vendor:
___________
Dear Robert,

Thank you for the Email!

We are sorry to inform you that this model is out of stock and we are
not sure when the manufacter will send us the new units.

Best Regards,
___________


So - I suggest we all need to hammer their web site with interest in the product. :angel: This way, they might get the message that there is a real interest in the unit and might get off their behinds and order them. Worth a try any way.

Any other suggestions?

Cheers,
Rob

[Robocop]

That's no good.. Well in the mean time I've been looking at the signal converter for the factory screen converter. Still at around $300 it's a gamble for this but if it works it solves a lot of issues. But before I look at that I have to fine a set of 5 of those Goodyear MTR's in the 19". Can't find them anywhere (hint).

[Disco4SE]

I agree Rob. Lets jump on board and bombard their website.

Cheers, Craig

[Robocop]

Before we jump too high I did find something else on the bay but I've never seen it before. It's a double din DVD in dash car-PC stereo. Seems to run on that windows CE thingy (Apple man here). I also found plug in looms to suit the lowline that will connect using the slimline 'parrot' lead.. It seems the longer we wait the more stuff comes out. I'll try & put some links up.

[jonesy63]

The depth of the unit would be the main question... the D3/D4 screen area is not standard stereo depth.

[CaverD3]

This mob have some of these kits:

Xenon HID Headlight Upgrade Kits from HIDS 4U - H7, H4, H1 (http://www.hids4u.co.uk)

Reversing Camera, DVD or TV on your Sat Nav Screen with GVIF... (http://www.hids4u.co.uk/land-rover-discovery-3-range-rover-lexus-gvif-interface-unit-dvd-tv-or-reversing-camera-on-sat-nav-screen.html)

Discovery 4, GVIF Interface Unit DVD, TV or Reversing Camera on Sat Nav Screen (http://www.hids4u.co.uk/land-rover-discovery-4-range-rover-sport-2010on-sat-nav-multimedia-video-interface-GVIF-DVD-on-Sat-Nav-LCD-Monitor.html)

I think they come down in price for disco3/4 uk site members.

199 uk pounds I think.

[outasight]

looks interesting ...

eBay Australia: Buy new & used fashion, electronics & home d (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Landrover-Freelander-2-7-Car-DVD-Player-GPS-BT-PIP-Radio-PhonebookTV-800-480-/230726945485?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item35b865cacd)

Regards,

Les.

[outasight]

This mob have some of these kits:

Xenon HID Headlight Upgrade Kits from HIDS 4U - H7, H4, H1 (http://www.hids4u.co.uk)

Reversing Camera, DVD or TV on your Sat Nav Screen with GVIF... (http://www.hids4u.co.uk/land-rover-discovery-3-range-rover-lexus-gvif-interface-unit-dvd-tv-or-reversing-camera-on-sat-nav-screen.html)

Discovery 4, GVIF Interface Unit DVD, TV or Reversing Camera on Sat Nav Screen (http://www.hids4u.co.uk/land-rover-discovery-4-range-rover-sport-2010on-sat-nav-multimedia-video-interface-GVIF-DVD-on-Sat-Nav-LCD-Monitor.html)

I think they come down in price for disco3/4 uk site members.

199 uk pounds I think.


All these GVIF converters are for displaying video information/signals onto your EXISTING lcd displays in colour screen oem/factory setups, NOT as we want where the factory b/w screen info can be displayed on a replacement sat nav etc. screen.

Regards,

Les.

[CaverD3]

I think it is the same converter the Russian one uses. It depends on how it is configured.

[Robocop]

Hi Les, there is one converter, it's $330 & I think from the same Russian mob. It was linked earlier in this thread I think.. I know the the size of the hole in the dash where the factory screen is exactly double din. As for the depth, I can't remember.

[CaverD3]

Made in Korea I believe.

[Disco4SE]

Hi Folks,
I just received the following reply from the vendor:
___________
Dear Robert,

Thank you for the Email!

We are sorry to inform you that this model is out of stock and we are
not sure when the manufacter will send us the new units.

Best Regards,
___________


So - I suggest we all need to hammer their web site with interest in the product. :angel: This way, they might get the message that there is a real interest in the unit and might get off their behinds and order them. Worth a try any way.

Any other suggestions?

Cheers,
Rob
Sent an email to the manufacturer this morning informing them that there is quite a bit of interest amongst us LR people.
Let you know when I hear back.

Cheers, Craig

[geoz]

I'm very interested in the outcome, too.

[Robocop]

I wonder if there's some kind of pole that can be linked to the disco4 sore & a us site so we can get a number figure of all those interested.

[Robocop]

Just some gear that I found. Not sure what it even connects to... I think the most useful lead could be the 'Parrot' lead.

eBay Australia: Buy new & used fashion, electronics & home d (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/400271166002'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_4002wt_922)

eBay Australia: Buy new & used fashion, electronics & home d (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/320833199910'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

eBay Australia: Buy new & used fashion, electronics & home d (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/220939437344'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

I always thought the Freelander 2 shared a similar system to the Discovery 3 but this is also lurking in the bay..
eBay Australia: Buy new & used fashion, electronics & home d (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/350503247080'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

eBay Australia: Buy new & used fashion, electronics & home d (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/320698920395'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

Parrot lead
eBay Australia: Buy new & used fashion, electronics & home d (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/350503247080'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

[Disco4pilot]

There have been quite a few CE based GPS units come up on Alibaba (a wholesale site that is used by lots of Chinese manufactures) that are very similar to the Freelander one.

Guaranteed100% for Landrover Discovery 4 car dvd player with GPS original design products, buy Guaranteed100% for Landrover Discovery 4 car dvd player with GPS original design products from alibaba.com (http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/518606414/Guaranteed100_for_Landrover_Discovery_4_car.html)

When these first came on (I noticed them around Christmas) the price was about $1550US but there are now ones listed for around $1250. I think over the next few months they should keep coming down in price. I have emailed a few of the poeple and you can get single units paying with PayPal (for buyers protection) from most of them. I've asked a few questions but the people who answer the emails don't really know much about the product. Some of the features seem contradictory...

I still don't understand how much these units integrate with the existing system or how much it just sits ontop of it. There are some utube videos that show them fitted and the menu button on the panel under the screen working. Would be great to see one in action.

[CaverD3]

Be careful of Alibaba, many have been scammed.

[Disco4pilot]

They are also on eBay
eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Landrover-Discovery-4-DVD-Player-Gps-Bluetooth-TV-Radio-/230596263316?pt=Car_Audio_Video&vxp=mtr&hash=item35b09bbd94#ht_3522wt_922)

[Disco4pilot]

Hey guys. I have just installed one of the eBay/Alibaba Discovery 4 GPS upgrades. I'll try and do a full write up when I get time but thought I do a quick post as I know a lot of people are wanting to do the same thing.

I purchased one of these
Landrover Discovery 4 DVD Player/Gps/Bluetooth/TV/Radio/MP5/Phonebook | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Landrover-Discovery-4-DVD-Player-Gps-Bluetooth-TV-Radio-MP5-Phonebook-/170689233947?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item27bddf041b#ht_8876wt_1005) from the same seller. I made an offer and after some negotiation the price was around $1300AUD delivered with an external digital TV box. Selina the person I spoke to was absolutely fantastic. Postage was very quick and communication was excellent. I think the price will probably come down over the next few months as it is still very new but I've got baby number two coming next month and couldn't wait.

The installation will take some time but isn't very hard. The hardest part with the install is to take apart the dash and remembering to put it back together in the same order! The instructions are not very clear (they are in Chinese so is the instruction manual) so you are better off following the GVIF installation instructions that you can get off disco3.co.uk (let me know if you can't find them).

To wire this up almost all you have to do is unplug the old screen and plug in the new one. It then (almost) totally integrates with the current stereo. It is awesome! All the original buttons and functions work and you can control the original CD player and Radio with both the new touch screen and all the old controls. It even integrates with the canbus so that if you change the time on the new system it changes and displays the time on the instrument cluster. I say it almost totally integrates because it doesn't use the factory Bluetooth. This is both good and bad. It is good because it supports Bluetooth music and the factory doesn't but it is bad because I don't think the sound quality is as good as the factory. (I haven't used it much yet I'll keep you posted).

I only installed this today so haven't fully tested it but so far am very very happy.

There are some tricks with the install and setting up igo and the gps that it would help to know so if you get one of these before I post a full write up let me know and I'll give you some more info.

[outasight]

Disco4pilot, Can you remind us what exact screen & audio you are coming from to put this in?

Is the graphics quality as poor as it looks in their pictures?

Are there any gaps or misalignment of the screen to the surrounding trim?

Regards,

Les.

[Disco4pilot]

Disco4pilot, Can you remind us what exact screen & audio you are coming from to put this in?

Is the graphics quality as poor as it looks in their pictures?

Are there any gaps or misalignment of the screen to the surrounding trim?

Regards,

Les.

Just the standard one that came in the SE.
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There are no gaps or misalignment with the screen.

Are the graphics as bad as an out of focus flash photo of the screen with the protective plastic still on... do I have to answer that.

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[eddomak]

I had a look at the eBay auction that Disco4Pilot linked to, and at first it wasn't immediately obvious (at least not to me) that one of the "images" in the body of the auction was actually a video link. Look for the one with the stylus on the corner of the screen, and you can click the "Play" icon. It's 7 minutes and seems to cover a lot of the functions.

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Can't wait for the write up!

I'd be interested in seeing the reverse camera performance, and the bluetooth. Ideally it would have supported the factory bluetooth...

[Robocop]

Interesting. This has been round for a little while but not many have invested. So is it correct the factory monochrome screen plays through the colour screen?

Cheers Rob

[Disco4SE]

Hi Disco4pilot,
Well done for making the move and being the test pilot (no pun intended).
Looking forward to your full report.

Cheers, Craig

[Disco4pilot]

Interesting. This has been round for a little while but not many have invested. So is it correct the factory monochrome screen plays through the colour screen? Cheers RobHey Rob, no the factory monochrome screen does not play through it (like it does on the Russian one that I also looked at and is on YouTube) it actually replaces the monochrome screen and performs the same functions (sends and displays the information to the main factory stereo unit) You adjust the radio tuning, audio settings (balance, fader, treble, base etc) and the system time all through the new display using its GUI (graphical user interface). So all the old functions (minus the old phone) work through the new screen along with all the new functions (including a new Bluetooth phone function that uses a new mic).To be honest I was actually really (pleasantly) surprised at how they were able to so seamlessly integrate the factory system with the new features. I could try and take a video on the iPhone and put it up here if you (or anyone) is interested. (anyone know who to use to host a video?)


Hi Disco4pilot, Well done for making the move and being the test pilot (no pun intended).Looking forward to your full report. Cheers, CraigThanks Craig I figured with baby number two coming next month my time available to play in the car is going to be rather reduced soon!


Is the graphics quality as poor as it looks in their pictures?Les.

Ok more on this than my last (cheeky) reply.

When I first looked at this I thought the GUI (I assume thats what you mean by graphics as the video playback is as good as any 7inch display from a DVD) wasn't that pretty as well but I looked into it a bit more and the button design and colour scheme is actually the same as on the high end factory system. They have copied the factory GUI to make it look the same as Land Rover intended. It actually looks good in the dash and is simple and easy to use whilst driving. My previous GPS was a Chinese Double din in a GQ patrol and it had quite a fancy GUI that looked good but was very difficult to adjust whilst underway and didn't look factory.

Cheers guys

Pete

[Disco4pilot]

What this is, disclaimer etc

This is an add on / replacement screen and DVD player for the low line Discovery 4 stereo as fitted to my 3.0 SDV6 2010 SE. I am not associated with any of the manufactures or retailers in any way. I am not an auto electrician or qualified to advise on anything about anything. I am simply an enthusiast who is willing to help others work on their own cars at their own risk!!

This is what my stereo looked like before the upgrade

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And this is the finished product.

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You can see that the new screen replaces the old screen and there is a DVD player in the top glove box. The cable between the screen and the DVD player is long enough to put the DVD player under the passenger seat if you don’t want to loose your glove box.

What it does.

This unit replaces the old non-touch screen with a 7inch touch screen. It uses the original radio tuner and cd player which can be controlled with the touch screen and the original buttons. As far as I can tell all the functions that used to be controlled and displayed on the original display can be controlled and displayed on the new display with the exception of the Telephone function. The unit includes its own Bluetooth telephone control and a separate mic needs to be installed on the A pillar. The original Bluetooth is still installed and operates although I do not know how easy (or if possible) it would be to change phones once this is installed. In my situation I use the new Bluetooth for my phone and my wife uses the old Bluetooth for hers (there is no call info display for the old Bluetooth and I don’t know if she will be able to re-pair her phone if it looses its connection, I’ll update this if I find out). The factory Bluetooth is clearer than the new Bluetooth but the new Bluetooth supports music streaming so it’s a bit of a trade off.

It has the following features – Taken from the marketing material with my comments added.
· 7-inch digital touch screen resolution:800*480 – I haven’t had the chance to try in strong full sun (we haven’t had much of that in Sydney) but it has a small amount shielding and my car has window tinting so think it should be easy to view. There is a button in the bottom left of all the screens that turn the screen off for night driving. (Great feature!)
· All functions can be controlled with the touch screen AND THE FACTORY BUTTONS BOTH ON THE STEARING WHEEL AND THE CENTER CONSOLE
· Car system time can be changed on the touch screen and is displayed on the instrument cluster
· DVD/CD/VCD/CD/CD-R/CD-RW/MP3/MP4/DivX on an external DVD player that is mounted in the glove box or under the passenger seat.
· Multimedia playback from SD card or USB drive – not sure of max hard drive size my guess is it would be small as this is usually the case. I think it might be limited to FAT32 size but might be wrong.
· Factory radio with touch screen and original control
· Factory CD with touch screen and original control
· Bluetooth music and phone, can control iPhone (only phone tested) but does not display song info. This replaces the factory Bluetooth. Not as clear but still functions well. I haven’t been able to get my address book on the touch screen but haven’t really tried as my phone is in a cradle (proclip) on the dash and I find the iPhone control easier to use and you can still use Siri. The answer and hang-up function on the steering wheel work with the new Bluetooth. See install for MIC location. The phone mutes audio as you would expect.
· GPS Built-in with a GPS dongle on the dash - Uses windows CE. You put the map software on a microSD card and then in the setting you direct the player to the correct file. It will then launch when you press the Navigation button. You can put multiple programs on the card and easily change the settings for different functions. The one I purchased came with igo8 and Australia maps installed (I have used igo8 before and love it) I will also install oziexplorerCE for off road nav. See install for GPS dongle location. If you look at the screen you can see a little plastic cover this covers a USB connector and the microSD card. Bellow it is the IR receiver. The turn by turn navigation comes out of a small included speaker (I put this in the top glove box but really it could be behind the dash as its not used much). I actually much prefer this (rather than through car speakers) as mostly I mute the voice anyway and just look at the directions. I don’t like the music stopping every time the voice tells me there is a turn ahead etc. It is still very audible from within the glove box so would be fine behind dash as well. IMHO
· Graphical User Interface – designed to look the same as the top spec factory option. It looks factory and is easy to see and operate.
· Steering wheel and center console control function. It works how you expect it too.
· PAL/NTSC system compatible (what doesn’t)
· Full function IR remote control – I don’t use it but its there..
· Image control function: Brightness/Contrast/Color/TINT
· Auto switching reverse camera – The big thing here is the speed it turn on. This is important as some of the ones I’ve seen if you jump in the car start it and put in reverse you are out of the drive before it starts up! This one is quick enough to be useful. The system only takes a few seconds to start up (whilst starting it shows a nice land rover logo and a status bar) and the camera is shown as soon as reverse is selected. The one I purchased included a number plate light mounted camera. I had already purchased a better quality one so installed this rather than the one given. My advice would be to try the free one and if you don’t like it put in a new one just make sure the connectors can be pulled through the hole in the number plate so you don’t have to pull apart the boot again!
· Auto-save all parameter and last memory function – If you were listening to radio when you turn off the car it will start back on radio, same with DVD and all other functions.
· Built-in HP/LP filter, EQ (wow)
· Digital TV – OK so it says you can get this as a built in option but when I purchased it they said they couldn’t do built in but only external. I didn’t really need the TV function but I just decided to get it as part of the price negotiations. The external one works fine but you need to use a remote, as the touch screen doesn’t work. I will probably just disconnect the TV so I can use the AUX in function for my ipod and use the external TV receiver when (if) I put screens in the back for the kids.
· AUX IN – Audio and Video. I wired up RCA connectors in the top glove box next to the DVD player so I can plug in the digital TV box or anything else.
· Video Out – There are two of these I ran the RCA cables to the passenger seat along with RCA’s from the top glove box so I don’t have to take apart the dash again should I install rear seat screens in the future.
· IPOD – I can only get an ipod to work by plugging it into the AUX input by a 3.5mm plug. Some of these units advertise IPOD control the one I purchased didn’t. I have no idea if they work or not. I have always found that I turn ipod control off and use the ipod screen anyway as I’ve never found a control GUI that is easier to use than the apple interface.

Install
Stay tuned

[eddomak]

Thanks Disco4Pilot for the write-up.

Can I ask a couple of questions?
1) Does it come with instructions for how to route the wiring for the camera all the way to the back?

2) Around how long did it take you to do the full install?

3) When you press the "phone" button on the dashboard (not the touchscreen) then does this activate the factory bluetooth phone connection, or does it do the aftermarket one?

Cheers,
Edwin

[Robocop]

Wow thanks Disco4 for the fantastic write up. This seems to be the answer to a lot of problems. I'm glad that it integrates with the time & date of the vehicle, that was a concern for me. I'll have a look at your eBay link again now that I'm home & start to negotiate a price.

Cheers Rob

[Disco4pilot]

Thanks Disco4Pilot for the write-up.

Can I ask a couple of questions?
1) Does it come with instructions for how to route the wiring for the camera all the way to the back?

2) Around how long did it take you to do the full install?

3) When you press the "phone" button on the dashboard (not the touchscreen) then does this activate the factory bluetooth phone connection, or does it do the aftermarket one?

Cheers,
Edwin

1) It does not come with instructions to install the camera (the instructions on how to install are rubbish) but it doesn't matter as there are very good write ups available for the reverse camera and also how to take apart the Disco 4 dash. I'll try and write up an installation guide soonish. Here is a link to how to install a reverse camera. Its for Disco 3 but not much is different.

http://www.disco3.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/14904/Discovery_III_Multimedia_Installation.pdf

2) It took me about 4 hours maybe a little more not including the reverse camera but there was a bit of stuffing around trying to decide how I wanted to run the mic and GPS and also running cables for when I put rear seat entertainment in. Its quite hard to gauge how long the install will take as it is highly dependent on how quickly you work. If you were used to doing this sort of thing you could get it done in under an hour it's basically plug and play. With the install (and anytime you play with Disco 4 panels) it is highly likely that you will loose the metal clips that hold the trim together I lost a few and decided to leave them off an easy to remove panel and I'll get more clips next time I am at a dealer. As for the reverse CAM I did this at the same time as installing my fridge wires some time ago so all I had to do was connect an RCA plug. The installation guide I linked to says about 2 hours.

3) If you press the phone button on the dashboard it will bring up the new Bluetooth phone screen on the touch screen. The steering wheel buttons will also answer and hang up the new Bluetooth.

[Disco4pilot]

Wow thanks Disco4 for the fantastic write up. This seems to be the answer to a lot of problems. I'm glad that it integrates with the time & date of the vehicle, that was a concern for me. I'll have a look at your eBay link again now that I'm home & start to negotiate a price.

Cheers Rob

No worries, I tried to negotiate will all the ones on ebay but only the one I posted would go well below the ridiculous asking price of $1650US! I also got a quote from someone on Alibaba for $1250US but wanted the buyers protection of ebay and paypal.

[Graeme]

· 7-inch digital touch screen resolution:800*480 – I haven’t had the chance to try in strong full sun (we haven’t had much of that in Sydney) but it has a small amount shielding and my car has window tinting so think it should be easy to view.
I look forward to reading how well the driver can see the screen for navigation, especially when using Ozi. I'm not about to replace my stand-alone 7" unit but anticipate that I'll be looking for a replacement sometime and the in-dash, original style is very appealing.

Thanks for the write-ups.

[outasight]

Ok more on this than my last (cheeky) reply.

When I first looked at this I thought the GUI (I assume thats what you mean by graphics as the video playback is as good as any 7inch display from a DVD) wasn't that pretty as well but I looked into it a bit more and the button design and colour scheme is actually the same as on the high end factory system. They have copied the factory GUI to make it look the same as Land Rover intended. It actually looks good in the dash and is simple and easy to use whilst driving. My previous GPS was a Chinese Double din in a GQ patrol and it had quite a fancy GUI that looked good but was very difficult to adjust whilst underway and didn't look factory.

Cheers guys

Pete

Yes, I did notice the first reply about the graphics was rather sarcastic!

The thing is you are correct. Your picture shows it looks a lot better than in the eBay ads. I already knew they were going for the factory look.

On the Bluetooth stuff, you said the factory Bluetooth still worked with your wife's phone. I take it that it only works using the phone's own buttons though now, as you have said the dashboard buttons now operate the new unit. Is that correct?
A bonus though that the steering wheel phone buttons now work - they don't in my standard 3.0 SE.

Also, where/how can I or anyone else "assist" you for your efforts & excellent leadership here? Living in Sydney & with a new baby coming, it must be expensive. I said I'd like to help & I would. What you have done removes a lot of risk & question for all who are interested. Well done.

Regards,

Les.

[Robocop]

One more question disco4pilot...

Have you used the Bluetooth streaming on an apple product yet? I'm interested to see if it works. I have both an iPhone 4S & iPod touch in the car at the moment.

Cheers Rob..

[Graeme]

A bonus though that the steering wheel phone buttons now work - they don't in my standard 3.0 SE.The green and red buttons work on mine.

[Disco4pilot]

Installation

Ok, so this might not be world best practice or even the way the manufacturer intended this to be installed but it’s the way I did it and it seemed to work.

You will need a Philips head screw driver and a torx screw driver (this is the star shaped bit. I think it was a T20 but I can’t remember as I had all of them in my toolbox) you will also need a lever of some kind. I used a large flat head screw driver and a small paint scraper covered in cloth.

The instructions that came with my device were in Chinese and they emailed me a (bad) English translation and a video of the dash being taken apart. Don’t let the non-professional looking instructions put you off the Chinese character instructions and user manual is quite well done and looks professional. Shame I can’t read any of it J. Now the video shows the whole stereo and aircon unit being removed which was not required so ignore the video when it goes past removing the screen it just gives you an idea on removing the trim. Here is a link to the video.



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I’ll post a copy of the instructions but they are not particularly clear. Especially the bit about the AUX plug (more on that later).

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Lets get started.

I’ll give you a rundown of what you need to do before going into detail. Basically the screen is the main component and has all the plugs. It is all pre wired and mostly plug and play. There is a loom that goes from the screen to the DVD player a loom for all the AV Ins and outs that also connects to the AUX wiring that is under the cup holder (hard wired to the plug in the back of the arm rest) and a loom that plugs directly into the loom you unplug from the old screen. All the wires were marked in English with what they were for except for two, which I discovered, are not used so don’t worry about them! One is green and the other is orange. Below is a photo of the back of the screen with the wires connected. You can see a long green wire which can be connected to the brake somewhere to blank the screen when moving (I didn’t bother) you can connect this if you want (I don’t know where) and still turn this feature off in the settings. It works fine if you just leave it. You can also see the orange and green wires I asked what these are for and she said they are not needed so I tapped them up and everything was fine. At the end of the long DVD loom you will see two connectors one is an RCA socket and the other is a screw terminal. The screw terminal says something like “connect to host shell”. This is a negative. Once you remove the top glove box you will see a few torx screws that this will fit on. The other connector goes to a wiring loom under the cup holder. Included is a RCA plug with wires on the end. This is the only part of the install where you have to change the factory wiring, you basically have to tap into the AUX plug and then put a little plastic plug in the 3.5mm socket to fool the car into thinking something is plugged in. There is also a mic connector and a GPS connector. All pretty much self explanatory.

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I found it easier to use the following guide to remove the trim and screen. This is how to remove a high spec screen but it is the same. http://www.bellautoservices.co.uk/public/pdf/D4-Multimedia-Video-Gvif-Interface-Install.pdf

You should note that the instructions that came with the unit do not show the trim around the gear lever being removed I found however that I DID need to remove this trim in order to run the RCA wires to the AUX socket and to run RCA cables for the video out for rear screens when funds allow. It also makes it much easier to connect the AUX wires. It looks tricky but is one of the easiest bits to remove. The only clarification I’ll make to the above posted instructions is that you will most likely loose some of the little metal trim clips when you remove the trim. They can be easily replaced next time you are at your dealer. I lost a few and in the end decided to remove them from the glove box as I think it was secure enough and use those clips on the important trim. You need to use quite a bit of force to remove the trip in places.
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Once you have removed the screen you can start removing the glove box. This just pulls out with the same clips as used on the rest of the trim. I also removed the air vent trim on either side of the car. These just pull out from the bottom. I did this to run the GPS to the left and the Bluetooth mic to the right. Once you’ve got the glove box out get the DVD player and its mount and decide how you want to mount it. You’ll need to cut a small hole in the box to fit the wiring loom through and drill some holes in the top for the mount. Behind the glove box you should see a couple of silver Torx screw s. One looks like it is holding up less weight than the others so I used this one as my earth point for the black cable labelled “Connect to host shell”.

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Now run the RCA cable that is labelled AUX to the left of where the screen was down to the white plug that is under where the cup holders were. You should be able to easily find a way through. You can see why you had to remove the trim. You have to tap into the loom. I recommend doing this on the AUX plug side of the white connector rather than the car side so if you stuff it up you can easily get a new loom. Or if you want to take the car back to 100% factory one day. I stripped the wire and soldered and taped the join however you can get push down plugs that do the same thing if soldering in you car fills you with dread (Jaycar or Disk Smiths). The white cord goes to the blue one the red to the red and the black to the black. There are three blacks but the one you want is next to the blue and red. I suggest plugging a cord into the 3.5mm AUX plug and using a multimeter to make sure you have the correct wires and that you have done this correctly. Now plug the little black plug into the 3.5mm socket. The photo shows the gear lever trim still in place but I ended up having to remove it and it made it much easier.

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With both the MIC and the DVD I’ve written it as running from the screen to the position but you should start from the position to the screen so that all the excess cable is taped up behind the dash.

I ran the MIC for the Bluetooth to the right of the screen behind the steering wheel and past the vent. I just used a long screw driver to pass it behind the wheel and used cable ties and tape so that it couldn’t catch on anything. I then ran it up the A pillar on the side closest to the door. You just fold back the seal and it fits in behind.

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I ran the GPS between the Top and Bottom glove boxes all the way to the left side out between the dash and the A pillar and then along the bottom of the windscreen to the middle. You can push the cable down between the forward dash and the windscreen so it can’t be seem. The kit came with a black plate with a bunch of Chinese writing and GPS written on it. I found out that this is used to boost the GPS signal. I don’t think it will do anything so haven’t bothered. I’m not in the city much so GPS reception isn’t much of an issue for me.

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I thought it might be neater to have the GPS under that grill you can see in the photo but could not find a way to run cables to it.

I also ran my reverse camera down to the sill whilst the vent panels were off. See the following for how to wire in the reverse camera.

http://www.disco3.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/14904/Discovery_III_Multimedia_Installation.pdf

You need to put the speaker somewhere. The speaker is used for voice commands from the satnav. I ended up putting it in the glovebox but if I did it again id probably run a longer wire and put it in the trim below the right vent but really its up to you. It’s not that important.

Now reinstall the glove box and plug the screen into the connector you removed from the old screen and plug in the RCA plugs you will use, ensure that the GPS and MIC plugs are connected and that everything is secure. There will be lots of excess cable but there is plenty of room behind the dash to hide this out of the way. Tape up all the RCA plugs and I suggest using electrical tape to tape everything up so that there is no chafing of annoying squeaks or rattles behind the dash. Before putting all the trim back on (with the exception of the gear lever trim other wise you’ll get a gear box fault) I tested everything at this point to make sure I had everything connected correctly before pushing the trim back on as I didn’t want to loose more metal plugs if I’d stuffed up anything. The trim has to go back in a certain order so you may need to pull up the gear lever trim again if you tested it in order to put some of the other trim on.

Operation

Ok so the manual is in Chinese… it doesn’t really mater you should be able to figure it all out. The only things that had me confused were how to pair the phone. You actually go into the touch screen phone menu and set a pin that you would like to use. You then go to your device and connect using that pin. Also you may need to set the path for the GPS. If you hit Navigation and nothing happens go into settings/factory/ and set the path to your GPS program (igo8.exe or something). Also once you start the GPS program you may need to go into the program settings and set the GPS (man this took me along time to figure out!!!!) In Igo8 you go to the GPS settings page and you turn the GPS off and then press the auto button. It will then scan and find the GPS. If you have a different program you may have to use trial and error to find the correct port and rate.

Think I covered everything… clear as mud I’m sure.

[Disco4pilot]

One more question disco4pilot...

Have you used the Bluetooth streaming on an apple product yet? I'm interested to see if it works. I have both an iPhone 4S & iPod touch in the car at the moment.

Cheers Rob..

Yes. I have an iPhone 4S and both streaming and phone work.

[Robocop]

But just no track detail on the screen or track control right?

[Disco4pilot]

On the Bluetooth stuff, you said the factory Bluetooth still worked with your wife's phone. I take it that it only works using the phone's own buttons though now, as you have said the dashboard buttons now operate the new unit. Is that correct?
A bonus though that the steering wheel phone buttons now work - they don't in my standard 3.0 SE.

Also, where/how can I or anyone else "assist" you for your efforts & excellent leadership here? Living in Sydney & with a new baby coming, it must be expensive. I said I'd like to help & I would. What you have done removes a lot of risk & question for all who are interested. Well done.

Regards,

Les.

Yes correct the Bluetooth only works with my wife phone using the phones buttons. As I said though I don't know for how long this will work as I don't know if repairing will be possible. Also my steering wheel buttons for the phone worked before (well two of them did) so I'm not sure about that...

As for the assistance, don't mention it. I enjoy this kind of stuff. That's what forums are for :)


But just no track detail on the screen or track control right?

Track control works but no track info.


Pete

[Disco4pilot]

Hey guys just an update. I connected a different phone via Bluetooth and it worked great (IPhone 4) No issues with sound quality. Even with the other phone (iPhone 4s) conversations were fine with no complaints from the other end. It just sounded a little tinny. Everything else works fantastically.

From starting the engine and putting in reverse to the reverse cam image being displayed is about 13 secs. If it is up and running already it is about 3 seconds.

Cheers

Pete

[Disco4SE]

Pete, have you used the GPS as yet, and if so, what is it like??

Thanks again for all your work.

Cheers, Craig

[eddomak]

Hey guys just an update. I connected a different phone via Bluetooth and it worked great (IPhone 4) No issues with sound quality. Even with the other phone (iPhone 4s) conversations were fine with no complaints from the other end. It just sounded a little tinny. Everything else works fantastically.

Thanks Pete for your updates. :BigThumb:

Witht the bluetooth integration, does it:
1) Copy the addressbook from your phone into the system?
2) Allow smart dialling (where you click the letters of the person's name on the number pad) or selection from addressbook?

The thing that annoys me on the standard one is that with an addressbook of 700 entries it would take forever to scroll to the right entry to dial it.

[Disco4pilot]

GPS
Yes I've used the GPS it works very well, you can run any Windows CE GPS program on a microSD. Igo8 is really good my favorite feature is you can put in a street name and then pick from a list of suburbs. Rather than having to put in the suburb first and then enter the street. Also it blanks out the letters if the available options do not include those letters so it makes entering things very easy. I don't know how it did it but it automatically changed to night time colors at dusk. It must have local night time stored in the maps. I found out a bit more on how these systems actually work. They actually have their own operating system running for all the functions except GPS which is run on a separate OS windows CE (Irrelevant to the discussion but interesting all the same:D this is why the GPS uses a separate speaker not the car speakers).

You do have to manually adjust the brightness on the display at night though. It is only a few buttons so not a big deal or you could just select a compromise between too bright at night and too dim during the day. Maybe one of the wires that I was told was not needed (as apposed to not used) does this when the lights are turned on. This is what my Chinese stereo did in the Patrol so this might be worth investigating. I have not found bright sun light to be an issue viewing the screen.

Telephone
As for the Bluetooth it doesn't download your address book like the factory one does. You can manually put numbers in a built in address book. I don't know if you can then smart dial with these. I don't have to receive or make phone calls for work so I really don't have to use the phone functions much. For me it's just the wife and my mates so didn't take long to manually put in the built in address book. I also have a phone charger and cradle mounted on the dash (I think you can see it in some of the photos) I find it easier to just use this if I have to look up a number.

[sniegy]

Well this thread has moved on rather quickly.:D
Disco4pilot, looks good, great to see you have had a positive outcome.
Well done on the write up, good to see you can also decipher Chinese:p & their pictures!

I in the end went for hema map system on my iPhone 4/iPad, I really wanted to be able to still use the factory phone kit.

Will see what comes out in future maybe, but V happy with what I have at the moment.

[Robocop]

Bit late with my purchase but I bought it today. Paid for the DVB-T upgrade as well. $1298 USD + $110 delivery.

I'll take pics of my install..
Rob

[Tombie]

Bit late with my purchase but I bought it today. Paid for the DVB-T upgrade as well. $1298 USD + $110 delivery.

I'll take pics of my install..
Rob

Hows it all coming along for you Rob?

[Robocop]

Well ummm lol I decided I needed a little more time & patience than the few 'awake' daylight hours in between night shifts..

I intend on running the cabling for a rooftop mounted rear screen or rear headrest screens, then there's the reverse camera, tv aerial & GPS receiver to mount so I might set aside a free day.


Rob

[Robocop]

Ok..

Screen & DVD player in. I'm trying to find instructions of some kind, in English if I can. I don't know where to put the hand brake wire or at least wire it to something to blank it out. Theres also two un-named wires green & orange. The bluetooth phone is very ordinary and the beep, with every button press.

I forgot where I saw the link to the two Chinese guys that pulled the interior apart & put it back together again.

Rob

[CaverD3]

Hand brake wire usually needs to be earthed to bypass the switching.

[Disco4pilot]

You don't need to connect the hand brake wire to anything. You can turn it off in the settings menu.

You can turn off the beep in the settings menu.

I never found what the spare orange and green wires were for.

The Bluetooth is ordinary in mine too. Some phones it works better than others.

I posted the link in my write up. Don't know if it still works.

Were you able to set up the gps ok?

[Robocop]

Thanks disco4pilot,

I'll duck out after dinner & double check the settings menu, my settings seemed very basic. It didn't seem to matter if I was stopped with the handbrake up or in drive with my foot on the brake it still showed the warning message about safety.

The DVD worked for about 30s then showed the same error message. I still have to hook up the aerial for the gos so that doesn't work just yet. Same with the digital tv.

Rob

[Robocop]

This is the message I keep getting.


48727

[Disco4pilot]

No worries if I remember correctly it has brake (spelt incorrectly) and a selection next to it. If you select this option it will bypass the brake wire. I can have a look tomorrow if you can't find it. I think the beep on or off is on the same menu.

[Robocop]

I dunno mate, I'll attach another pic of the DVD screen & the settings screen.


48728

And the settings screen..

48729

[Disco4pilot]

Hmmm

I just got home and had a look. That is the screen that mine has the settings on... I'll post a pic tomorrow. I wonder if they are running a different software version or something...