Service price

[Robocop]

Can someone confirm if this is correct but I booked my D4 (3L TDV6) in for it's first 12k service & enquired about the charge. I was told it would be $650. It seems a little steep for oil, filters and an apprentice to wash my rig.

[Graeme]

You might want to inquire if it does include engine oil and filter because the 1st scheduled oil change is at 26K kms although the price suggests to me that it probably does.

[sniegy]

Service schedule for 3.0l TDV6 is:
13,000k's or 6 Months.
Cost for initial service is approx $190.00

This only includes a general check including brakes, suspension, undercarriage engine bay & vehicle interrogation of all ECU's.
Make sure the vehicle I settling & all working within spec.

$650.00 sounds like the engine oil & filter to be replaced, which is an option to the owner.

Oil service is scheduled yearly.

[Robocop]

Well after hearing all that I may call the stealer back & double check what they'll be doing.

[Beamin]

Might pay to phone around other dealers to compare prices and then front your dealer with the comparison. An equivalent service on my D4 3.0 at 36k was around $350 and that definitely included oil change but I'd have to check the records to see if the filter was done as well.

[Robocop]

I'll do that, thanks for the heads up. I bought my D4 in Sydney but my closest dealer is in Albury where I got my FL2.

[Disco4SE]

Can someone confirm if this is correct but I booked my D4 (3L TDV6) in for it's first 12k service & enquired about the charge. I was told it would be $650. It seems a little steep for oil, filters and an apprentice to wash my rig.


Hi Robocop,
The 12K service on my 3.0Lt was $514.00. This included the oil & filter change (which I requested).
Mate, do yourself a favour and have the oil & filter done every 12K.

Cheers, Craig

[But 'n' Ben]

I was told to get car checked for leaks, and security in the first few 1000K's
Returned from my first trip, at 8632Kms, and took it in for oil, filter, and check over.
Booked in as a 5000km/3month Serv;
Oil Filter, $28.84, W/Screen fluid, $1.61, Professional oil, $120.
Total, including GST, $162.45. Othert bits checked for leaks, and security.
As far as I am concerned, next visit would be at 24000Kms, but if I do any amount of Towing, or rough work, then I will change oil and filter more often.
Seems that different dealers have different time spans???
Who ever mentioned 13000/6months as a routine, where did this come from?
Regards, Don.

[sniegy]

Who ever mentioned 13000/6months as a routine, where did this come from?
Regards, Don.

Don,
This has come from Land Rover!
The servicing schedule for the 3.0L is as follows
13,000k's / 6 months Health check (no oil & filter change)
26,000k's / 12 months (Yearly service) oil, oil filter, sump plug, pollen filter & fuel filter get replaced.
39,000k's / 18 month Health check (same as above)
52,000k's / 24 month (2nd yearly service)
Etc etc...

The Discovery 4 2.7L follows a 12,000k schedule.
The only motor in the Land Rover range that follows a 13,000 service schedule is the 3.0L motor.

Cheers

[But 'n' Ben]

Hi Sniegy, thanks for your input.
Looking at my service Hand book, I reckon that Land Rover have given you the Service information for, the other half of the world, not including, Australia. That's where the 13,000/6 Months figure appears.
For MY11, and after, D4 3.OL's in Australia, there are A and B services, 26,000 Kms/12 months apart from each other. At this time, I have no idea what these services constitute, but I believe that the initial, free of labour, oil change and security check, is a compliment from individual dealerships.
Regards,
Don.

[sniegy]

Don, this is an email from one of the other members here on the forum,
He as myself have a 2.7L D4 so the servicing requirements for us are every 12K/6months.
As you have the 3.0L yours are every 13K/6months.
Land Rover Australia "recommend" that the health check be carried out every 6 months just in case something arises in the meantime, brakes, oil leak etc etc...
The initial service (health check) is not complimentary either.

Cheers :)

Email from LRA today...........

Dear Mr ******,
RE: 2011 Discovery 4 / Vehicle Identification Number: SALLxxxxxxxx
Our Ref: 8269540
Thank you for your email in relation to service intervals.
Firstly, apologies for the delayed response
Land Rover would like to confirm that the service book is correct as the service intervals are 24,000kms or 12 months. However Land Rover do recommend a health check at 12,000kms or 6 months.

I hope this serves to answer your query however, if you wish to discuss the matter further then please don’t hesitate to contact me on the number below, Monday to Friday, 08:00 till 18:00 (AEST).
Kind Regards,

xxxx
Land Rover Australia
Tel: 1800 625 642
Email: enquiries@landrovercustomers.com.au

[Stuart02]

Aw, kisses from LRA! :P

In the not-so-long past it was considered prudent for diesels to change oil every 5k and filters every 10k... Are modern engines and filters really that much better?!?

[sniegy]

Stuart,
Short answer is yes!
Engines are built to much better standards & tolerances these days.
The oil on the other hand is also the major factor,
Hence why your yearly service is approx. $700.00 plus, the oil is a costly factor, because it is fully synthetic & designed to last the year.
Did I change my oil at the 6 month health check?
Yes, you can't change old habits quickly :p
& it's a small price to pay in the long term.
Cheers:)

[Robocop]

Ok so according to the service schedule the oil gets changed once a year depending on kms travelled. What I want to know is exactly what do they do?

I was quoted, not naming names of course, from a prestige dealer west of Sydney near the M4 where I bought my D4, $600 for my first service & $1350 for the yearly service.

Now I'm all for changing oil but are they kidding? Every 5000km I would change the fuel, oil filter, centrifugal filter, air filter & full synthetic diesel oil in my 2003 TD5 Defender 110. It was about $140 for parts delivered to my regional door & $90-100 for the Penrite oil. So somewhere around $250.

So including the $70 for the grease monkey per hour what are they doing with the remaining $250 odd dollars?

Should I be asking the stealer for a full breakdown prior to service?

[Piddler]

Go to another dealer for a quote :D:D

[Madkelpie]

About 10 years ago I was workshop controller at a Toyota dealer in Perth. Their labor charge back then was $80/Hr. They charged $15/ liter for oil (crap 20w50) and had a myriad of useless add ons on every service.
At my workshop I charge $66/hr including GST and make a good living.
The moral of the story is DONT GO TO DEALERS except as a last resort.

Cheers
Graeme

[sniegy]

Don,
This has come from Land Rover!
The servicing schedule for the 3.0L is as follows
13,000k's / 6 months Health check (no oil & filter change)
26,000k's / 12 months (Yearly service) oil, oil filter, sump plug, pollen filter & fuel filter get replaced.
39,000k's / 18 month Health check (same as above)
52,000k's / 24 month (2nd yearly service)
Etc etc...

The Discovery 4 2.7L follows a 12,000k schedule.
The only motor in the Land Rover range that follows a 13,000 service schedule is the 3.0L motor.

Cheers
Robocop this was another response I posted earlier & is basically what gets done.
Costs will vary from dealer to dealer as they are told what to charge from LR depending on area.
But as an estimate....
13K $190.00
26k $750.00
39K $190.00
52K $875.00

I don't have my service schedules with me as they are at work as with a price parts list as they are with parts guys.
The 52K service has additional work to be carried out hence why it is slightly dearer.
I can't speak for other dealers as what/why they charge what they do.
We can only go by what LR require us to do as a dealer.

Graeme, I don't understand why you would make a statement like that,
Some dealers are very good, some aren't as good as others, some back yard shonkies aren't even worth the dust that they stand on.
Some are excellent & we have a few on this forum which are highly recommended (JC stands out in the crowd & must be praised) from other users.
I don't preach that I work for a dealer unless questioned, we aim to please & I dare say it, but we can't please everyone. But we try to help out, most likely just like yourself, we are there as a front for people who have an issue with there vehicle & try by all means to get them operational again with minimum of fuss.
We have always been known as stealers & will be, but sometimes we do come in handy;)

Cheers all.

[Robocop]

Thanks sniegy for your detailed reply, trust me to make the first booking of 2012 & now having trouble contacting the dealer in the holiday season.. I am by no means tight but like to know what I'm getting & hate being ripped off, as most would agree.

Rob

[scarry]

sneigy,very well said,i have tried all the dealers around here,but seem to end up at MR auto;);):D

Robocop.$70/hr,your dreaming

As said by madkelpie,toyota dealers were $80/hr 10yrs ago.

Last time i visited a LR dealer,they were charging around $140/hr,if my memory serves me correctly.

[chuck]

I used to go to independents & then came to the conclusion they were taking me for granted.

When I had the D2, servicing at the main dealer was cheaper than the independents, more convenient because of location & opening hours (I can drop off at 7.30am & pick up at 6.00pm, they even work Saturdays). They would even drop me off outside work. None of this came with the indie, in fact i noticed things like handbrakes being adjusted and globes being replaced all included in the service.

Now that I have the D3 the service has continued i.e a loan car, substancial discount for being an LROCV member & never any unpleasantness regarding warranty issues. It was the dealer that has contacted me on several occasions telling me to bring the car in for end of warranty inspection which will end in them replacing the ball joints under warranty.

I agree you should get the dealer(s) to price the work prior to commencement but there is something comforting when you feel someone is looking out for you when performing a service.

Regards

Chuck

[Ean Austral]

Some interesting comments, and can understand both sides..dealer and Independant.

I myself in Darwin find that the dealership is not really a Landrover dealership, but a dealership that has just picked up the L/R marque, and hence the 2 times I have used them ( both whilst I was at sea and SWMBO needed the car ) they have been very average at best, the second time I took the car back and asked for an explaination on some of the supposed work they did..

I would expect that a dedicated L/R dealership would be a better option, and I would expect to have to pay for their work, as you do with all genuine dealerships....Try using Cummins or Catapiller and you soon learn what dealership charges really are.

At the end of the day, if you are unhappy or not sure, get some quotes from other dealers and see what they all offer, but personally I would also be looking as to what it does to your warranty on a new vehicle before trying to find a basement cost service..

Cheers Ean

[Ivan]

Scarry

I am surprised you find them so good. My experience with them has been apalling. They have quoted and charged for jobs they did not do, and jobs that did not need to be done. The most recent job they did for me, under a warranty, they screwed up and I now have to pay an extra $200 to get it fixed as I can't go back to the warranty company and ask them to pay again.

Ivan

[Talby]

Hi All,
I was slightly shocked when I enquired about service costs on our new D4 3.0 after owning a 2.5 td Pathfinder for the last 6 years.

To save some money I purchased a 20lt drum of Castrol Professional SLX( new name will be called Castrol Edge) 5-30 C1 which cost $195. This is the recommended oil by Castrol for these motors with the DPF filter, oil filter $28.85(I didn't bother with a new sump plug it will be replaced at the yearly service), 32mm socket $7.99 to remove the oil filter cartridge and changed the oil myself for the 6 monthly change which is easy to do however make sure you have some rags around the oil catcher as the oil comes out from the side of the sump and hits a cross member and comes off in a couple of directions. ( keep the receipts for the oil and filter write date and klms changed for warranty purposes)

We have only travelled 3330klms but will be towing our van next week so I wanted fresh oil before we went away.

As the dealer charges $125 for the 5.7 lts of oil, I will be supplying my oil with the next service which they are ok with, at least this way I can keep fresh oil in the motor and save some money in the process.
I realise not everyone would bother changing the oil themselves but every little bit helps!
Talby.

[Tombie]

So does understanding that you won't kill the engine by not changing the oil till its needed :cool:

BMW understand this well - their performance vehicles will tell YOU when they want a service.

Extra oil changes are not cheap insurance.

They're just a bloody waste of money and oil when not required.

[Stuart02]

Yeah even my wife's Mini (BMW) doesn't have set service intervals.

Dunno - 5 years ago I had a Jeep KJ, and the major service was around $1000, and would have been $300 more if it was a auto. Granted that might have included a bit more than an annual service, but technologically, the KJ was a wheelbarrow compared to the D4.

Having said that, my wife and I were told that the Corporate Servicing deal OS worth around $3000 over the 3 years, and I doubt LR would undersell that!

[Disco4SE]

Extra oil changes are not cheap insurance.

They're just a bloody waste of money and oil when not required.

Sorry Tombie, I dont agree with you here, nor should you be handing out that advice.
You can never change oil & filters too much.
I get both oil & filter changed in between Landrovers recommendations at my expense as I do believe it is cheap insurance.

Cheers, Craig :)

[Piddler]

Sorry Tombie, I dont agree with you here, nor should you be handing out that advice.
You can never change oil & filters too much.
I get both oil & filter changed in between Landrovers recommendations at my expense as I do believe it is cheap insurance.

Cheers, Craig :)

I think the way to settle this is get an oil sample tested, easy to do. That will tell you the truth.

I tend to agree with Tombie.

Cheers

[scarry]

I think the way to settle this is get an oil sample tested, easy to do. That will tell you the truth.

I tend to agree with Tombie.

Cheers

Exactly,had the engine oil tested in the D2 numerous times & it did 20k easy......

BUT you MUST follow LR & use the spec oil,that is FULLY synthetic for the engine.

Same as diffs,T/C & gearbox,you MUST use the LR spec fluids if you wanna go long drainage intervals.

Obviously i am taking about normal driving conditions,if you are doing a lot of say water crossings,the diffs,etc will need doing more often.

[101RRS]

The few times my car has been near the dealer service has been very ordinary. At my last service I got a quote before hand and was taken back by the cost. Based on the dealers quoted time for the service X $140 per hour, the LR list cost for the parts and oils etc, plus $100 for consumables there was still a $200 difference that when questioned the dealer could not explain - that was the price - take it or leave it.

I left it and went to a garage who claimed to be familiar with the car - the person I spoke to certainly was but he was not there when the car went in and the actual mechanics on that day had no idea.

In future I will do most of the work myself and contract out the bits I am not comfortable with.

Garry

[Robocop]

I decided to keep my appointment with Trivett as I have a couple of issues I'd like them to look at & if there's any software updates it should be done now. I will though be questioning all that gets done prior to having it done. Have they allowed the global close on the windows yet?

[Madkelpie]

Dealers caring about your car. Dream on! the mechanics at a dealership are paid average wages. The majority couldn't care less about your car. They care most about how much profit they can make per job.An independent workshop lives or dies based in the work they do. If I send out average jobs I will very soon have no business. Dealers have a monopoly and so their level of motivation to provide good service is lower. A qualified mechanic using genuine parts can do warrenty servicing. Dealers are where people with no imagination get their cars worked on.

Cheers

Graeme

[Robocop]

Thanks Graeme you just answered my next question, I had wondered about taking my D4 to one of the local independent guys for service. He is familiar with LR & only down the road.

In saying all that like I've mentioned before, I did all the servicing on my TD5 110 with no issues.

[SBD4]

Robocop this was another response I posted earlier & is basically what gets done.
Costs will vary from dealer to dealer as they are told what to charge from LR depending on area.
But as an estimate....
13K $190.00
26k $750.00
39K $190.00
52K $875.00

I don't have my service schedules with me as they are at work as with a price parts list as they are with parts guys.
The 52K service has additional work to be carried out hence why it is slightly dearer.
I can't speak for other dealers as what/why they charge what they do.
We can only go by what LR require us to do as a dealer.

Graeme, I don't understand why you would make a statement like that,
Some dealers are very good, some aren't as good as others, some back yard shonkies aren't even worth the dust that they stand on.
Some are excellent & we have a few on this forum which are highly recommended (JC stands out in the crowd & must be praised) from other users.
I don't preach that I work for a dealer unless questioned, we aim to please & I dare say it, but we can't please everyone. But we try to help out, most likely just like yourself, we are there as a front for people who have an issue with there vehicle & try by all means to get them operational again with minimum of fuss.
We have always been known as stealers & will be, but sometimes we do come in handy;)

Cheers all.

For what it's worth here are the service costs for my 1yo D4 HSE 3.0:

13k $231.00 Labour $195
26k $779.09 Labour $350
39k $249.10 Labour $195

The prices sniegy quotes were pretty much what the salesman told me when buying the car.

BTW I got my mine from Purnell Motors - same as whiteD4 I think - robocop, If you are looking for dealer servicing, perhaps you may consider using these guys as the pricing seems close enough to what sniegy has said.

Cheers

Sean.

[Robocop]

Well I decided to take it to the dealer for the first service (12500) just for peace of mind & I could complain if I desired...

Trivett were nice enough, it was well out of my way driving up from Leeton, 600+km each way, the cost, $619, a little pricy yes.. I still have to check if a tyre rotation was included as it wasn't done.

I'll probably go to Blacklocks Land Rover in Albury as their only 160km away.

[Graeme]

I purchased a 20lt drum of Castrol Professional SLX( new name will be called Castrol Edge) 5-30 C1 which cost $195.
From where did you buy at that price? I paid $282 from my local Castrol distributor only recently. Perhaps there was a price hike with the new name.

I wanted to change the oil in the new motor at around 5K but no oil was available in Australia at the time. Reluctantly it only got its 1st change at 25K - far too long IMO for a 1st change so I hope the filters are good. With my usage I'm quite happy to thereafter let it go 20-25K. I'd like to use the non-DPF oil if its available when I need to buy the next drum as the DPF compatibility compromises some qualities.

[Robocop]

Today, 5 days after service, a warning on the D4 driver display read my washer level was low after I used it. I checked the specs & it appears there's 5.6L n the washer resovior.

Since the service I'd driven it home (580km) then a return trip to Syd On the weekend. I know I've used the washer twice & not for a major windscreen wash. When I picked it up from service it had been washed & I washed it when I arrived in Syd on Friday.

I know I haven't used the washer enough to empty it. The service receipt clearly shows the breakdown of parts & services, fluid levels inc the washer was one of them.

Should I be concerned? If this wasn't done could there be more? Could it just be overlooked?

Any replies or opinions would be appreciated before I call them tomorrow.

[scarry]

Does the 3l engine have timing belts,same as 2.7.
if so what intervals do they need to be done at?

[outasight]

Hi Pete,

I'm a bit surprised also by all this after thoroughly reading my owners manual etc. and also understanding my 3.0L D4 services to be(albeit a surprising)26k apart!

I have snipped the quoted email from you below & note the bolded & underlined use of the word "recommend". This then suggests & should I imagine in law mean that warranty is not voided by only doing the 26k services under "normal" driving conditions.

Further, how does LRA's schedule relate to/cater for & what are the intervals for the corporate plan I have purchased under then?

The sticker on the windscreen simply has 24/2/12 as service due, but the car was pre-delivered in 12/9/11, so that is even more strange ...

It is very annoying that not one thing I have received or have in the glovebox owners manuals etc. mentions anything about these "health check" services. There are addendums about the jacking points & the oil specification, but nothing more.

Regards,

Les.

[outasight]

OK - the snipped quote doesn't work, but you get the idea!

Regards,

Les.

[sniegy]

Hi Pete,Les, i assume you are referring to me;)

I'm a bit surprised also by all this after thoroughly reading my owners manual etc. and also understanding my 3.0L D4 services to be(albeit a surprising)26k apart!
The yearly service is every 26K

I have snipped the quoted email from you below & note the bolded & underlined use of the word "recommend". This then suggests & should I imagine in law mean that warranty is not voided by only doing the 26k services under "normal" driving conditions.
Les, this correct & your warranty will not be affected.

Further, how does LRA's schedule relate to/cater for & what are the intervals for the corporate plan I have purchased under the corporate plan.
The corporate plan includes every 6 month health check & service.

The sticker on the windscreen simply has 24/2/12 as service due, but the car was pre-delivered in 12/9/11, so that is even more strange ...
I would assume you collected the vehicle in August sometime? I don't really have an answer for that one.

It is very annoying that not one thing I have received or have in the glovebox owners manuals etc. mentions anything about these "health check" services. There are addendums about the jacking points & the oil specification, but nothing more.
We only received this from LR as an internal email

Regards,

Les.
Cheers HTH.

[outasight]

Thanks Pete,

It would have been more obvious if the quote function had worked!
Oh well, I expect the D4 may be visiting you & your lads in the next month or two then!
One of your own team of guys disabled the folding mirrors for me while you were away actually. Everyone was great down there after less than satisfactory "service" at the sister dealership!
They said they'll fit switches next time it's in, so that's now on the radar too :)

Regards,

Les.

[robbiek2009]

Just had my D4 serviced at Melbourne City Land Rover at 24000km as I have towed a van for approx. 4000km in the last 8 months. Vehicle registered May 2011. Cost for service (26000km) $720.00. This included clean inside and out.
Good customer service.

[gt_convert]

On the subject of servicing, does anyone have any advice for non dealer servicing in the Canberra region. I have had a less than satisfactory run with the local dealer, they dont appear to be interested in maintaining customer relationships or loyalty.

Cheers,

Pat

[af3556]

Just had my 96000 "C" / major service done by Graeme Cooper in St Peters, Sydney, who were helpful and professional.

They replaced just about every consumable: engine oil, oil filter, fuel filter, pollen filter ($87 list price!, charged 54+GST). Also cleaned out/serviced the parking brake shoes+drum.

They drained the transmission and refilled with "ZF 6 speed fluid" aka unicorn tears. (mostly: popped the plug and waited rather than running through the cooler/etc to expel all the old oil).

Total (which made me cringe) was $1204 incl. GST; ~440 labour, 420 consumables, 240 parts, 110 GST.

Ben

[Hamersley]

Hi Don
See your at Caloundra, are you using Pacific LR at Maroochydore?
I am debating who to use for my 3.0 D4, next service at 48k
Regards
Brian at Cooroy

[eddomak]

Just had my 96000 "C" / major service done by Graeme Cooper in St Peters, Sydney, who were helpful and professional.
...
Total (which made me cringe) was $1204 incl. GST; ~440 labour, 420 consumables, 240 parts, 110 GST.

I got a quote for my in-law's D3 from them, and the C service was quoted at $1200. In comparison, a C service from Alto Land Rover St Leonards was quoted at $1900. :eek:

Graeme Cooper said within their price they also include the change of a fluid that is not strictly in the schedule, but they have found beneficial.

BTW, I wish I had known this prior to my last service. I went in knowing a little warranty work was needed, and thinking that it was going to be a minor/medium service with only a hundred dollars or so difference, but Alto gave it the 2 year/48,000km treatment - ie the major service aforementioned. [bawl]

[101RRS]

With a D3 - what is a C service - my service schedule has a mix of A, B and O services but no C service.

O service = every 12,000km (basically an oil change)
A service = 24K, 72K, 120K, 168K and 216K
B service = every 48,000km

Equivalent time frames also apply for each.

Thanks

Garry

[sniegy]

A = O
B = A
C = B

Newer service schedules have slightly changed & for whatever reason (it used to work quite well) the sequence of A,B & C service is now as above??

Cheers

[Learner]

Hi Sniegy,
Any chance of listing the "new" service sheets?

[Tombie]

Ok so according to the service schedule the oil gets changed once a year depending on kms travelled. What I want to know is exactly what do they do?

I was quoted, not naming names of course, from a prestige dealer west of Sydney near the M4 where I bought my D4, $600 for my first service & $1350 for the yearly service.

Now I'm all for changing oil but are they kidding? Every 5000km I would change the fuel, oil filter, centrifugal filter, air filter & full synthetic diesel oil in my 2003 TD5 Defender 110. It was about $140 for parts delivered to my regional door & $90-100 for the Penrite oil. So somewhere around $250.

So including the $70 for the grease monkey per hour what are they doing with the remaining $250 odd dollars?

Should I be asking the stealer for a full breakdown prior to service?

This has been my 'rant' for ages.... (I rant quite a bit I'm told)

Changing oil / filters etc at such intervals (unless its working like a dog all the time) is a complete and utter waste of money and resources...

It gained nothing for engine longevity in measurable terms.....

And by the sound of it (in your case) you then moved the vehicle on anyway...

Simply put - Excessive oil changes gain nothing - cost more - waste more resources.

[Tombie]

Best service price is to haggle onto "Corporate Service Plan" when you buy :)

Nothing beats - Free :cool:

[curl]

sadley not too many options in NT, just got stung $791.90 for 26,000 service, I think I need to look for more options next time out.:(

[101RRS]

I got a quote from a stealer for a 48,000km service - was quoted $800. I costed the job at an hourly rate of $150 and added the parts and oil at stealer prices and came up with an overcharge of around $200. When I queried I was simply told that was the cost - they didn't get my work and will get no further work unless an emergency.

Garry

[Talby]

From where did you buy at that price? I paid $282 from my local Castrol distributor only recently. Perhaps there was a price hike with the new name.

I wanted to change the oil in the new motor at around 5K but no oil was available in Australia at the time. Reluctantly it only got its 1st change at 25K - far too long IMO for a 1st change so I hope the filters are good. With my usage I'm quite happy to thereafter let it go 20-25K. I'd like to use the non-DPF oil if its available when I need to buy the next drum as the DPF compatibility compromises some qualities.

Hi Greame,
Purchased the oil from W.R & M.T Lumsden in Bomaderry NSW 02-4421-2111. Is it true that the 3.0l doesn't have a DPF ? Thought I read it somewhere in a thread, if so the normal 5-30 Castrol edge would do fine.