Broken recovery point

[glenhendry]

Had some excellent fun four wheeling yesterday at the Glasshouse Mountains. The P38 performed superbly with two patrols and a pajero. She led the whole way and crawled up steep, rutted hills that others needed a lot of dangerous speed and multiple attempts at.

A note of confirmation about RR recovery points though, and as a way of a caveat, dont bother replying with snipes about what I should and shouldnt have done here, as I am just trying to share some 4wd pics and also a specific note with experience about the breaking strength of our rear recovery point.

The breaking weight is the weight of one white pajero coming up a big hill. It wasnt the gentle snatch that broke it, rather the ensuing tow without using the snatch springiness. Horribly, the big steel D shackle went flying back towards the towed vehicle, missing it thankfully, but not by much. To my greater horror, I (we all) forgot to put the snatch strap damper on it. Thank the FSM (http://www.google.com.au/url'sa=t&rct=j&q=wikipedia%20fsm&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFlying_ Spaghetti_Monster&ei=-Gz7TrKJHKSfiAf-jJ2hAQ&usg=AFQjCNGUlEtJqgCLo5gf4OZN5IfTL6gjaQ&cad=rja), no harm was done to anyone. Obviously, the better spot is in a snatch block insert to the tow bar receiver, or some significantly more sturdy part of the towbar.

Here is the link to the pics:
https://picasaweb.google.com/105878078807082914833/4wd5CarsGlasshouseDec2011?authuser=0&feat=directlink

Here is the pic of the busted point:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/6i1KJ8O9atdqikYfm1E0etMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=d irectlink
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/6i1KJ8O9atdqikYfm1E0etMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=d irectlink

[Blknight.aus]

that loops not a recovery point, its a tie down/flat tow point only intended to be used for securing the vehicle or pulling it up onto a flatbed.

alternatively if it was an aftermarket add on, what was it made from cold forged and welded swiss cheese?

[p38arover]

that loops not a recovery point, its a tie down/flat tow point only intended to be used for securing the vehicle or pulling it up onto a flatbed.

Agreed.


alternatively if it was an aftermarket add on, what was it made from cold forged and welded swiss cheese?

It's factory, not aftermarket.

[Blknight.aus]

wasnt sure if it was the factory loop or not, there was a sort of loop thingy available for the D1 that was little more than a bit of bar stock hammered flat on the ends, drilled and then bent into a U that bolted on in place of the twin tie down rings on the back of a D1. I had assumed that it might have been one of those if it wasnt the factory loop.

are they on both sides on a 38?

[parasnoop67]

A reasonable solution is to put the pin in the towbar through the loop of the snatch strap. Always us a damper.:(
There is only 1 loop at the back and one on the front of the p38a.
The one on the front is very securely mounted to the vehicle.

[Keithy P38]

I'll vouch for the strength of the front one, my green p38 full to the seat edges with water in a fast flowing creek was snatched out at full noise and didn't look like breaking!