NAS, SVX, LED's... Please explain?

[jimb]

Righto. Been searching through for a while now and into the uk/aus LR parts websites like a IT addict. Please help me where I am wrong etc.
Thanks.

Glossary: I have used lamp to describe the bulb and light used to describe the pastic on outside. Again please correct me.

LED. Quicker, brighter more efficient than traditional bulbs. Missing anything?

NAS. North America Specification? How ate these lights different from Aussie delivered defenders?

SVX. Special edition DEF often (always?) have clear rear lights but colored led lamp under the clear ? Plastic light. Correct?
These seem larger than original about the same size as the reverse light. Are they just 3 reverse lamps with different courted bulb/LEDs lamps?

Do guys ever change their rear lights to look SVX style or is that frowned upon? What's the culture.

Ps.
last Q what does the abbreviation SWBMo ?? Or similar stand for? Is the a section where this is available. IMHO I need it! ( that one took me a week to work out- clearly my vocabulary cannot come up with the combos necessary!)

[goingbush]

Don't know about the other bulbs but NAS Headlamps , or Headlamps from any country that drives on the wrong side of the road can not be used in AU because the low beam spreads across to the right of the road instead of the left.

. SWMBO (She who must be Obeyed) is a bit sarcastic for me so I don't use it, not so much an acronym because WIFE actually has less letters, AKA Handbrake

[copba]

G'day,

I'll help where I can.

Yes NAS stands for North American Specification; they're effectively bigger versions of the normal lights, to suit the Yank's import laws at the time.

I think they look ok, and I also feel that the standard lights are a little too small for modern day city driving.

There's a few people on here who've fitted LED's, a search should bring up some details.

I'm not sure what lights the SVX have; other than having clear covers.

SWMBO; is an acronym for She Who Must Be Obeyed, referring to wife, girlfriend etc.

[VladTepes]

LED's - quicker (no) brighter and more efficient (yes).
Probably longer lasting and submersible(ish) if that's important but of course IF they break they are harder to source/replace that a new bulb. They are also more expensive, and by their design generally do not have much in teh way of sideways dispersion of light - whereas the standard LR lamps are visible from any angle.
If you retro-fit LED lights you'll need to change the flasher unit or put extra resistance in the circuit otherwise they will flash too quickly.


I like the NAS spec lights (incandescent variety) and intend to put the set on the rear of my 130 tub as they suit that I think.

The SVX has clear covers with coloured bulbs, though I don;t know whether they are incandescent or LED.

Bugger the culture - do what you like !

[Drover]

SVX has the following -

Tail / Stop = LED

Reverse = LED

Rear Fog = LED

L/R Blinker = Incandescent (Coloured bulbs)

All are clear/covered when not illuminated.

All rear lights are the same size or diameter.

Cheers

[Pedro_The_Swift]

dammit,
wiki's still on strike--:(

[sumosmurf76]

Hi Jimb,
check out the attached link from Mud 4X4 from UK
they sell the LED light sets for about 500pounds plus postage.
I once made an enquiry from Alto Land Rover for the SVX original lights and you're looking at $2000.

MUD-UK - SVX Defender Clear LED Tail Lamps (http://www.mudstuff.co.uk/shop/122-svx-defender-clear-led-tail-lamps.html)

Is it worth it? well its a personal thing isn't it.

if you're interested in the Led light let me know as i'm looking at buying them myself and i think we'll save on postage if i buy two.

[scott oz]

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If you retro-fit LED lights you'll need to change the flasher unit or put extra resistance in the circuit otherwise they will flash too quickly.

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I've fitted LED's to all my lights; internal and external excluding main beam (Headlights). Got all the LED's off ebay - not that expensive.

In relation to the blinkers it's a lot easier to simply replace the flasher can (with one designed to work with LED's) than fitting resisters to make the flasher can work. In fact fitting resistors seems self defeating and the worst option.

If you don’t wish to change flasher can then I found leaving in one “bulb” provided sufficient resistance to allow the standard flasher can to work.

The down side with the electronic flasher can is you don't get the "noise" and you don't get the trailer dash light. Also the electronic flasher can is about $A35. (Navara)

In the UK they sell a electronic flasher can that does work with the trailer circuit however its about 50 pounds when I looked sometime ago.

Is it worth going to LED’s probably not but it is easy and fun to do. Now when the “main beam” LED’s improve and come way down in price it will be something else to look forward too.

[landoman]

I've fitted LED's to all my lights; internal and external excluding main beam (Headlights). Got all the LED's off ebay - not that expensive.

In relation to the blinkers it's a lot easier to simply replace the flasher can (with one designed to work with LED's) than fitting resisters to make the flasher can work. In fact fitting resistors seems self defeating and the worst option.

If you don’t wish to change flasher can then I found leaving in one “bulb” provided sufficient resistance to allow the standard flasher can to work.

The down side with the electronic flasher can is you don't get the "noise" and you don't get the trailer dash light. Also the electronic flasher can is about $A35. (Navara)

In the UK they sell a electronic flasher can that does work with the trailer circuit however its about 50 pounds when I looked sometime ago.

Is it worth going to LED’s probably not but it is easy and fun to do. Now when the “main beam” LED’s improve and come way down in price it will be something else to look forward too.

I want to change my bulb lights on my 110 defender to leds
I can get a kit with all the led lights and a flasher unit

is this flasher unit some thing I just replace an existing plug or flasher with or will I need to do rewiring ………..I’m assuming these led kits are just plug and play but I’m not sure about this flasher bit

many thanks

[Tins]

I want to change my bulb lights on my 110 defender to leds
I can get a kit with all the led lights and a flasher unit

is this flasher unit some thing I just replace an existing plug or flasher with or will I need to do rewiring ………..I’m assuming these led kits are just plug and play but I’m not sure about this flasher bit

many thanks

Plug and play. the flasher is basically like a relay, just swap. Heck, it even works on my OKA.

[landoman]

Plug and play. the flasher is basically like a relay, just swap. Heck, it even works on my OKA.
Thanks for that …..where do I find this flasher thing under the bonnet or in the fuse box some where ……

[V8Ian]

Thanks for that …..where do I find this flasher thing under the bonnet or in the fuse box some where ……
Behind the fuse panel.
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[Discofender]

Hi all,

I changed my faded and cracked originals for LEDs 4 years ago. I went for the smoked versions, which don't show colour until illuminated, similar to SVX. Flasher unit on my Td5 was behind the instrument binnacle, supplied flasher unit just plugged straight in and had an adjuster knob to get the flashing speed correct.

Not only did they modernise the look of the old landy but I think improved visibility esp at night.

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[landoman]

they look good is there any benifit to going with the smoked ones or is it just the cosmetics ?



Hi all,

I changed my faded and cracked originals for LEDs 4 years ago. I went for the smoked versions, which don't show colour until illuminated, similar to SVX. Flasher unit on my Td5 was behind the instrument binnacle, supplied flasher unit just plugged straight in and had an adjuster knob to get the flashing speed correct.

Not only did they modernise the look of the old landy but I think improved visibility esp at night.

Cheers Discofenderhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240108/52c8d3309072d813106dd42d487c9072.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240108/1605fa52ca80e9e1d7b72db522f1170f.jpg

[Discofender]

I went with smoked as I thought it kinda matched the titanium grey paint....so yes, aesthetics.

Discofender

[DazzaTD5]

Just some added info...

NAS - are 90mm diameter side markers / lights, required for u.s market when they sold Defenders for that short period of time.

2007 - 2016 Defender models, Land Rover went away from their age old supplier of Wipac and went with some other brand, they are prone to fading, melting and blowing globes.
Changing over to Wipac (purchase a complete kit and it has the electronic relay for the indicators included) in either smoked or std colours.
2007 - 2016 the relay is below the steering column behind the removable panel.
2007 - 2016 front side markers are clear lenses, rears are coloured

SVX (2008 model) had Ricardo front seats, alum finish gear shifts, some crap silver plastic trim round the head lights, special alloy wheels, clear side markers, gloss wheel arches, matt strip on the side, not much else. mechanically the same.

[landoman]

Ok so I ordered the full LED conversion kit from LR PART UK ……..appears WIPEC brand mostly

looks like

1) the front white parking lights are plug in ( ie they have plugs ) haven’t tested if they fit yet
I hope so ………

2) the front and back amber lights are plug in ( they have plugs ) hope the fit

3) the side repeaters look to be plug in ….( they have a connector that plugs into the original bulb holder )

4) BUT …BUT …….The reverse light and the rear fog light …..just have wires sticking out of them ……….so how do I connect them ……..is there a plug I can buy or do I need to start to join wires ……..the existing wire to the existing plug for both of these lights are rather scant ….

dissapointed that the whole kit is not plug in

Any advice experience appreciated…….

[DazzaTD5]

Ok so I ordered the full LED conversion kit from LR PART UK ……..appears WIPEC brand mostly

looks like

1) the front white parking lights are plug in ( ie they have plugs ) haven’t tested if they fit yet
I hope so ………

2) the front and back amber lights are plug in ( they have plugs ) hope the fit

3) the side repeaters look to be plug in ….( they have a connector that plugs into the original bulb holder )

4) BUT …BUT …….The reverse light and the rear fog light …..just have wires sticking out of them ……….so how do I connect them ……..is there a plug I can buy or do I need to start to join wires ……..the existing wire to the existing plug for both of these lights are rather scant ….

dissapointed that the whole kit is not plug in

Any advice experience appreciated…….

all the WIPAC kits are plugged the same as most Defenders (well lets say TD5 and onwards)
If the reverse and fog arent WIPAC with a plug, then I guess its cut and use joiners or solder

[landoman]

Ok change all my LED lights and flasher and all good ……now just got to fit the reverse and fog lights and that means cutting and putting on new plugs

QUESTION

both these two lights come with a black and a white wire

how do they match up to my existing black and red wires ……never dealt with these colours before and the more I Google the more confused I get with the terminology ….hot …positive negative ….carrying current away etc

just need to know which joins with the existing black and red



and just to make things even more confusing the number plate light has a white and a brown wire …..same question

many thanks

[DazzaTD5]

Use a test light to see which wire coming from the Defender is live / active / positive (use what ever term you prefer)
the other wire will be the earth.

strip the ends of both pairs and try black to black etc, if it doesnt work, swap them over.
the LED lights will only work wired one way round, you wont damage anything.

[landoman]

Use a test light to see which wire coming from the Defender is live / active / positive (use what ever term you prefer)
the other wire will be the earth.

strip the ends of both pairs and try black to black etc, if it doesnt work, swap them over.
the LED lights will only work wired one way round, you wont damage anything.

ok great ……….was afraid I might damage the leds if I got them round the wrong way ……
….should be good to go now