110 0r 130

[BertR]

About to purchase a brand spanking new LR and it's come down to a choice between a 110 or 130 crew cab. Any opinions on pros and cons between both?
Cheers
Barry

[87County]

IMHO the answer to this would mainly depend on what uses you intend for the vehicle ....

and to a lesser degree what ease of parking you require and what garage space you have...

... another LR owner in TAS (the state that doesn't want tourists from the north island) - welcome to the forum :)

[jplambs]

What are you planning on doing with it? Offroading? Farm work? Daily driver, etc?

[justinc]

..Errr, just buy one of each???:D

As said, 130 is a great touring vehicle, a 110 is a great touring and everyday vehicle, it really comes down to what you are intending to use it for. There are times I wish my 110 was a 130, but mostly happy with the way it is.

And welcome! are you in the north or South?

JC

[BertR]

Off roading, touring, daily driver, towing, carting people and pets around etc etc

[BertR]

..Errr, just buy one of each???:D

As said, 130 is a great touring vehicle, a 110 is a great touring and everyday vehicle, it really comes down to what you are intending to use it for. There are times I wish my 110 was a 130, but mostly happy with the way it is.

And welcome! are you in the north or South?

JC

I wish.....and I'm in the middle.....Ross

[justinc]

I wish.....and I'm in the middle.....Ross

Hmmmmmmmmmmm Ross Bakery....:D


JC

[CraigE]

Personally I would go the 130. I currently have a 110. Having said that I think the new 110s come with a few more options than the 130. Still I would go the 130 as it is a lot more versatile. I would go a custom trade rear tray with gull wing doors, twin tyre carrier, chassis rear drawer system, wheel arch tool boxes & water tank (maybe even auxillary battery). Roof top tent on the back and half roof rack and or solar panel.
Still a little way away for me I think.
Best of luck which ever way you go.

[Slunnie]

Off roading, touring, daily driver, towing, carting people and pets around etc etc

I would have expected the 130 to be very big for a daily driver - its a long vehicle. eg parking, parking lots, nimbleness etc. I think they would be a fantastic tourer though!

[BertR]

Thanks fellas....more grist for the mill, think it will come down to a coin toss

[JDNSW]

My take, for what it is worth, is that for most people the 110 would be preferable. The major drawback to the 130 is the size and turning circle, which can create real problems in many parking situations, although how serious this is depends where you drive. The 110 will fit anywhere an ordinary car will (although you need to keep an eye on height clearance). The advantage of the 130 is simply bigger load space and carrying capacity, plus slightly better ride.

John

[BertR]

My take, for what it is worth, is that for most people the 110 would be preferable. The major drawback to the 130 is the size and turning circle, which can create real problems in many parking situations, although how serious this is depends where you drive. The 110 will fit anywhere an ordinary car will (although you need to keep an eye on height clearance). The advantage of the 130 is simply bigger load space and carrying capacity, plus slightly better ride.

John
Think the ride comment might have just swung it....it's a barsteward having a bad back and getting a 22 ton concrete truck into spots you wouldn't go with a wheelbarrow makes a 130 look easy

[justinc]

just to second Johns comment about ride, I have towed with 130s, car trailers with Discos on them etc etc up and down the midlands highway and they ride REALLY well at 100k with a couple of ton behind on a decent trailer.

JC

[juddy]

I would have expected the 130 to be very big for a daily driver - its a long vehicle. eg parking, parking lots, nimbleness etc. I think they would be a fantastic tourer though!

Thats one reason I upgraded to the Puma 130, its a very nice daily drive, yes its long, you just have to be mindful of where you park, no difference on the road compared to a 110, even maybe a better ride due to longer wheel base.

[newhue]

I have found the 130 goes all places the 110 can. They seem long, but with an alloy tray on they are no longer than a jap twin cab with same specs.
The 130 is a brute in a tight car park, but I have found reverse parking is the way to go. And I prefer the 130 having no ABS, and traction control.
If you plan to put kids in the back, maybe the 110 has better seats, the 130's backrest is pretty steep with no adjustment.

[rick130]

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The 130 is a brute in a tight car park, but I have found reverse parking is the way to go.
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Having driven a 130 for ten years now, reverse parking is the only way to go.

Reverse turns are the go too instead of a forward five point turn (Slow speed J turn :D )

[cewilson]

When you say 110 are you saying 110 wagon OR 110 ute?

Because that may change a lot of the answers above.....

[uninformed]

Having driven a 130 for ten years now, reverse parking is the only way to go.

Reverse turns are the go too instead of a forward five point turn (Slow speed J turn :D )

either that or rear steer :cool:

[rick130]

either that or rear steer :cool:

Yep, or fiddle/turning brakes :D

[bushhack]

I own a 130 dual cab it is very handy
It has the ability to take 5 ppl all their gear and a motor bike or 2
It is a bit of a truck to park but I wasn't the one who designed those small muliti story car parks
110 would have better departure angles and smaller wheel base but that would be a non issue if your not going to be doing hard core 4wding

[muddys1]

Hi BertR,
cewilson has a good point, 110 crewcab or 110 wagon ????
i have a 110 crew cab in stornaway grey 2.4 puma.
yes the rear is much smaller thsn a 130, and the spare wheel takes up space and needs to be on a wheel carrier.
ride is fairly hard, not bad when its loaded up with camping gear, believe me you can fit a lot in the back if you try :D
my wife wouldn't drive the 130 i had before, but she is comfortable with the 110.
fits inside my standard 2 car garage, which is great.
rear seat is straight up and down, not great if your unlucky to travel in the back, the 130 is the same.
comes with alloy rims same as wagon.
depending on the colour you want you may have to order a 110 crewcab as very few get bought into the country, was lucky, mine had just been shipped.
there are a few thoughts for you from the 110 crewcab camp, you just need to get whats going to best suit you.

cheers
muddy

[BertR]

Oh gawd....decisions decisions......

[timbo]

I'm finding myself stuck with the same decision. I don't care about ease of parking. I'm more concerned with reduced break-over angle. Though, I intend to give it a lift and taller tyres anyways, so it might be a non-issue.

I need something that can carry two large dogs without having their hair spread all through the interior, so a canvas covered tray is perfect.

110 dual cabs are a lot harder to find, but I'd probably buy one of those over a 130.

[Yorkshire_Jon]

I need something that can carry two large dogs without having their hair spread all through the interior, so a canvas covered tray is perfect.

110 dual cabs are a lot harder to find, but I'd probably buy one of those over a 130.

I have a 110 double cab and Love it. When I take the touring stuff out its perfect for the dog and the cab keeps clean!

When touring I sometimes think a 130 would be better because of the extra space, but then I remind myself that I drive it everyday more than I do for pure touring & the 110 is better for those off-roading days because of the shorter rear overhang.

If I had to buy another tomorrow I'm pretty sure it would be another 110 double cab.

HTH
Jon

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[rick130]

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I'm more concerned with reduced break-over angle.
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FWIW a stock 130 has a better ramp over angle than a stock GU Patrol ute, but obviously worse than 110 :D (real world use between the two climbing over contour drains on a farm, not book numbers ;) )

[roverrescue]

Just get a 130.

Surely the 'parking' issue is solved by hooking it up on the footpath outside the carpark and then walking an extra 2 minutes. Sorry for my I live in the country attitude - If I lived in the big smoke I would probably take the treadly!

For ride, a 130 at GVM+/- pizzles all over maybe 10 other fourbies I have had the displeasure of hooking along a dirt road at GVM (read that as touring) masses.

Dogs love riding in a 130...

The tiny door of a 110 wagon or the tiny tray of a 110 ute would get tired real uick IMHO.

S

[Witchdoctor]

Could anyone help me with test driving a defender on either the Goldie, Brisvagas or the Sunny coast with a dealer.
LR on the Goldie does not have one to drive only RR :(.

Cheers
David

[timbo]

I have a 110 double cab and Love it. When I take the touring stuff out its perfect for the dog and the cab keeps clean!

When touring I sometimes think a 130 would be better because of the extra space, but then I remind myself that I drive it everyday more than I do for pure touring & the 110 is better for those off-roading days because of the shorter rear overhang.

If I had to buy another tomorrow I'm pretty sure it would be another 110 double cab.

HTH
Jon

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Can't you cut off some of the rear overhang? Thus retaining the ride comfort of the extra-LWB, and gaining some more departure angle?

I don't care if I have a small tray. It'd only be for the dogs mostly anyways.

[BertR]

Thanks for all the feedback....I'm leaning towards the 130 at the mo

[timbo]

I'm still undecided. I have a few grand to go though, savings wise. I buy my vehicles outright and as sensible as it is, it's excruciating to have to wait.

[rainman]

It's all been said, but seeing as the 130 is winning I thought I sway it a bit more.

I've just gone from a 110 Tdi to a 130 Tdi, and apart from the glorious amount of space I now have, the ride comfort is streets ahead, even with stiffer (than standard) spring rates.

As for the parking, I've installed the Puma (current model) convex mirrors- brilliant. :cool:


James.

[timbo]

Sorry to hijack the thread BertR, but seeing as we seem to have similar things in mind for purchase, I can't see it hurting.

I need to factor in a whole bunch of things before I start laying out coin on a defender.

If I was to get a 130 and decide to chop the bum off, and give it a lift, where in Brisbane would be the best place to go? (I really need to learn how to weld).

Also, for those who have driven both, do you notice any significant loss of power with the 130, due to the extra weight? This might be irrelevant anyways, if I decide to plonk an Isuzu into it.

[rainman]

If I was to get a 130 and decide to chop the bum off, and give it a lift, where in Brisbane would be the best place to go? (I really need to learn how to weld).

Are we talking chopping the tray or the chassis here? The approach angle on a 130 is the same as a 110. The departure angle depends on the tray you have fitted. The HCPU body reduces it. A normal sort of 2100-2400 tray would reduce it also. I have built my own 1800 long tray and designed it so that the limiting factor to my departure angle is actually the Hayman Reece bar (with the tongue removed). I guess it comes down to what you want to use your tray for, and there for how long and/or high you can have it.


Also, for those who have driven both, do you notice any significant loss of power with the 130, due to the extra weight? This might be irrelevant anyways, if I decide to plonk an Isuzu into it.

I can't comment sorry. My 110 was standard 300Tdi with mild pump tuning. My 130 has a different turbo that's basically not working at the moment, but is about to be VNT'd, so I can't compare.


James.

[timbo]

I was thinking of having a custom built raised tray, and also chopping off any excess chassis that sticks out past the extent of the tyres, and strengthening as required. So basically having a 90 degree departure angle. I'm not so worried about approach angles. I'll deal with that when I get it lifted.

[BertR]

Sorry to hijack the thread BertR, but seeing as we seem to have similar things in mind for purchase, I can't see it hurting.

I need to factor in a whole bunch of things before I start laying out coin on a defender.

If I was to get a 130 and decide to chop the bum off, and give it a lift, where in Brisbane would be the best place to go? (I really need to learn how to weld).

Also, for those who have driven both, do you notice any significant loss of power with the 130, due to the extra weight? This might be irrelevant anyways, if I decide to plonk an Isuzu into it.

No probs mate....My worries are room and carrying capacity, go to quite a few places where firewood has to be taken in and then there is all the rest of the stuff...craypot, surf rods,genset etc etc as well as towing the camper behind

[timbo]

Haha. As long as I can fit the pups in the tray, I'm happy. I plan to get a camping trailer somewhere down the track, so space isn't a big issue.