How Heavy is Yours??

[Disco4SE]

I noticed there was a couple of people post the weight of their Disco's on the 'Kaymar Rear Carrier' post, so I thought I would weigh mine on a local weigh bridge.
Mine is a D4 3.0Lt SE with standard 19" rims & Pirelli ATR's.
I also have a steel Opposite Lock bar, steel rock sliders, fridge in back and a few job files.This is my day to day load.
My weight came in at 2780Kg.

It would be interesting to know the weight of other D4's & D3's, especially stock.

Cheers, Craig

[weeds]

what does land rover state as the kerb? weight for your model?

[Disco4SE]

what does land rover state as the kerb? weight for your model?
The owners manual says 2583kg with a full tank of fuel.
I had about 1/3 of a tank left.

Cheers, Craig

[Ozzy119]

Did you get out or stay in the vehicle at the weigh in?

I assume kerb weight doesn't account for the driver so depending on our girth's we will be adding anywhere between 75 - 100+ kg's on

[mowog]

This whole weight thing has me thinking about how much is too much. All up with the caravan we are around 6500kg. The D4 pulls this weight with not much effort and you would never guess the thing was pulling that much mass.

I am now going to look for weight savings on the caravan. On the last trip we were not even packed for longer term remote travel which was the plan for this caravan.

The tare on the caravan is around 2700 kg which in hind-site is too much. With an ATM of 3500kg I have an 800kg load allowance and I have used every bit of that... How, I have no idea. 300kg for water and gas and 500kg for stuff....?

Its easy to see how some people overload caravans.

[BobD]

The owners manual says 2583kg with a full tank of fuel.
I had about 1/3 of a tank left.

The 2583kg also includes 75kg for the driver, according to the manual.

Bob

[Disco4SE]

Did you get out or stay in the vehicle at the weigh in?

I was actually out of the vehicle and off the weigh bridge.

Cheers, Craig

[TerryO]

My basically standard D3 HSE with me in it and a full tank is 2.86 ton.

With our van hitched it has a combined weight of 5.34 ton.

If I added front and rear bars plus a winch, along range tank full of fuel, a second spare wheel, sliders, under body protection, full 60 litre fridge, the better half and the usual gear one puts in the back and then add roughly a 250 kg ball weight then chances are 3.5 ton would be exceeded easily.

I bet more then a few D3/4 and Crusier owners with all the off road gear fitted and who tow vans would be surprized if they weighed their combined rigs with full tanks and their butts sitting in their seats.

Judging by the many 3.0l auto Patrols ones sees on the road with large vans on the back even without lots of off road gear fitted they are way over.

cheers,
Terry

[Glynhouse]

And I thought you were being rude Disco ?:o

I am much the same as mowog, with the petrol 80 serise we were always between 6 and 6.5 tonnes with the van on, way too much. looking forward to the extra torque in the D3.
Driving the D3 home from Brisbane on the weekend, will weigh it when I get an oportunity it is stock standard.

DD

[Graeme]

The tare on the caravan is around 2700 kg
If that's the manufacturer's tare then it may not include any gas bottles, batteries, spare wheel(s), water and possibly even mattress(es) or TV etc - anything not screwed down! I had to remove all these from my van to get it back to its noted tare.

[TerryO]

Depending on the manufacturer most TARE weights include all the things ordered with the van, providing you ordered the van before it was built.

They don't include water or LPG in the bottles though. If anything is fitted at the Dealer after it is delivered then that is not included in the TARE unfortunately.

cheers,
Terry

[Doug145]

I had my D3 TDV6 SE weighed on the weekend. Taking into account the additional items we were carrying which I weighed, the kerb weight was calculated to be 2702kg (with road tyres). My D3 has a second battery and snorkel fitted that I've included in my kerb weight, but no other additions like bars, tanks, carriers etc. LR includes 75kg for the driver, a full tank of fuel and all oils and fluids in the kerb weight.

The LR handbook for my D3 gives a range of weights for the TDV6 variant (and for the petrol V8 as well), but does not state which weight attaches to which variant and with or without options. My handbook gives 2494kg - 2718kg for the range of kerb weights for the D3. I'm guessing that the leather seats in the SE are much heavier than the cloth trim in the S, because it is hard to see where the extra 200kgs are hiding in mine.

[mowog]

If that's the manufacturer's tare then it may not include any gas bottles, batteries, spare wheel(s), water and possibly even mattress(es) or TV etc - anything not screwed down! I had to remove all these from my van to get it back to its noted tare.

The compliance plate says 2560 that was when it had 3 Ton simplicity suspension. We weighed it with water early on and got around 2800kg with water. So the 2560 Tare was pretty close. The control rider suspension weighs more and I estimate the tare at around 2700 kg now. Based on what we knew before 2700 kg would be very close.

[Doug145]

I weighed mine again this morning with 18" wheels and road tyres, full tank of fuel and no people inside. Tipped the scales at 2.62t. Allowing an estimated 75kg for the driver (not this one!) and including the already fitted Safari snorkel, Traxide dual battery system, and ARB under bonnet air compressor, the kerb weight for comparison is around 2695-2700kg.

Now we can work out which goodies we can fit to keep it all under the GVM.:)

[trif]

Hi Guys,

My D4 HSE MY11 was recently weighed at 2800kg. This includes myself in the vehicle (l do actually weigh 75kg :)), half tank of fuel, General Grabber AT tyres, GNVP rock sliders with step, Traxide dual battery system, ARB compressor, Long roof rail kit, basic recovery kit stuff, rubber rear luggage compartment and all 3 row rubber mats, and lastly the very weighty side protection strips.

That was exiting the local waste management facility so l'm not certain of the accuracy.

Regards Trif.

[Disco4SE]

I forgot to mention that mine also has the optional rear air conditioning unit. I wonder how much that adds?

Cheers, Craig

[Doug145]

If anyone else is looking for spare kilograms, I weighed the rear seats today with the following results for the leather seats:
Third row total: 38kg
Second row total: 71kg (2x22.8kg + 1x25.7kg)

[discotwinturbo]

If anyone else is looking for spare kilograms, I weighed the rear seats today with the following results for the leather seats:
Third row total: 38kg
Second row total: 71kg (2x22.8kg + 1x25.7kg)

Speaking of weighing things.
I weighed our triple axle horse trailer yesterday, with the two horses, 200 litres water, portable horse yards, and all tack......bugger.....4050kgs.
Both touareg and disco tow it fine, but I obviously need to do seem serious weight cutting......importantly for insurance reasons.

[haydent]

If that's the manufacturer's tare then it may not include any gas bottles, batteries, spare wheel(s), water and possibly even mattress(es) or TV etc - anything not screwed down! I had to remove all these from my van to get it back to its noted tare.

this is such a good and misunderstood point, i hear ofter "tare is everything the van has at new" even from dealers. but i think by law it doesnt have to be and judging by my experience too like yours, when weighing we went over max so easily that theres no way we put that much gear in the van , the tare has to be an empty shell with no washing machine, ac, awning, fridge etc etc

[Tins]

OT a little, but my OKA weighed in at 4990 for a GVM of 4995, fluids full, fridge(s) loaded and food in cupboards, with me (111 kg back then) in it. A little too close for comfort. If it had had the original steelies rather than the mags it would have been over.
I have since removed a lot of ironmongery installed by the PO, who probably worked on the Harbour Bridge or something, but still, any "friend" who is silly enough to accompany me is going to need to go on a diet. I've lost 20 kg which is a start, I guess.
Point is, how many people actually know? Until they find out the hard way (https://magazine.rvdaily.com.au/rv_daily_-_issue_041/caravan_crash_tragedy). This bloke was a truck driver, apparently. Hard to believe, given just how hard we are policed for overmass infringements. I still can't believe that any muppet with a DL can go out and buy a tow car and van with zero training, and hit the roads, and yet a B-Double will be pinched for being a tonne over. Every part of the truck is designed to carry loads. Pretty much no part of a caravan is, they'e "designed" to carry all the comforts of home. People who need the comforts of home should stay there, imo. Car/van combos should be subject to the same regs as any HV. Including entering weighbridges.

[TonyC]

I don't get why vehicle manufacturers can get away with their specs V clear usage intentions and advertising.

Many moons ago we had a dept Patrol, it was stock except for a Nissan front bar and a cargo barrier, if you put two adults, five kids and filled both tanks it would have been over GVM.

My 130 claims a kerb weight = tare plus full fuel and 75kg driver of 2086kg, Vicroads say it's 1960kg.
I've weighed it at 2200ish with a steel bar, axillary battery, second fuel tank and heavier tyres, unknown fuel and no driver.

It's GVM is 3500kg, 2200kg rear axle, 1580 front, 4000kg towing and 7000kg GCM.

So it can be done with a light vehicle.

I've been somewhere near the front axle limit, nowhere near any of the others, packed for several weeks of desert travel with 4 people.

Tony

[discomatt69]

It’s the rear axel weight that is the killer when loaded up with the van hitched and how much weight is pulled off the front axel and put onto the rear is a eye opener
individual weighs of car, van , hooked up and unhitched plus each axel and ball weight is the only way to now what’s going on and how to get it right

[Saitch]

Some interesting 'Weights' here. Especially their blog: Ranger v Everest. He says what's beening said on this Forum. 'How cam manufacturers get away with claiming 3500kg towing'?


https://www.facebook.com/search/top?q=mobile%20weight%20check

[Tombie]

My D4 is about 3100kg with me, main tank of fuel and a few bits and pieces in it.
Thats with full underbody armour, sliders, bar, winch, aux tank, fridge, roof rack and RWC.

[discomatt69]

My D4 is about 3100kg with me, main tank of fuel and a few bits and pieces in it.
Thats with full underbody armour, sliders, bar, winch, aux tank, fridge, roof rack and RWC.
So your rear axle weight would be over full of fuel and a 6x4 trailer and overGVM with 4 adults in the car and no trailer

[Tombie]

So your rear axle weight would be over full of fuel and a 6x4 trailer and overGVM with 4 adults in the car and no trailer

Never carry 4 people [biggrin]

Full Fuel - Borderline

Van on the back - Nope

[discomatt69]

Never carry 4 people [biggrin]

Full Fuel - Borderline

Van on the back - Nope
I don’t car 4 people either, mines been a 2 seater for a little while to remove a heap of weight