Pioneer Platform rack (long)

[CSBrisie]

Anyone got one of the above fitted? I'm trying to work out if I need to swap my LR short roof rails for long ones in order to fit the long version of the PPR. I dont think additional "front legs" (as per LR Expedition rack) are available from Rhino so you are stuck with short rack or fiiting the long roof rails?
cheers

[Redback]

Never mind me, I can't read:angel:



Baz.

[discotwinturbo]

Anyone got one of the above fitted? I'm trying to work out if I need to swap my LR short roof rails for long ones in order to fit the long version of the PPR. I dont think additional "front legs" (as per LR Expedition rack) are available from Rhino so you are stuck with short rack or fiiting the long roof rails?
cheers

I have the 1928 long platform with their 3 lots of legs. Tow on front rails and 4 on long rear rails. I did not have factory rails so purchased the short and the long ones from rhino. The front legs have two spacers on each side. You can position the cross rails and legs at any location, but I have mine fitted so that one set of legs is just forward of the rear bolt, one set at the end of the rails (middle of roof) and one set on the short rails at the front. They are evenly spaced.

Does this help ?

[CSBrisie]

Hmmm, I hadnt realised Rhino made 'separate", short, front rails. I guess the question will be can you add front rails from Rhino to existing long rails from LR...suspect not.

[discotwinturbo]

Hmmm, I hadnt realised Rhino made 'separate", short, front rails. I guess the question will be can you add front rails from Rhino to existing long rails from LR...suspect not.

Stornaway, I don't know about the factory rails. The rails that I purchased are all rhino ones. They go full length of the top level part of the roof.....from rear lip to just about where the roof dips down. I dealt with rhino directly in Perth. The guy there was super knowledgable. He did say that if I had the factory long rails, then I only needed to buy rhino short rails for the lower front section. See pics attached.

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Short rhino front rails

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Middle rhino legs

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Rear rhino racks

Not sure if I like forum runner....pics upside down. Also I can't view must pictures using forum runner either.

[PaulGOz]

I have the short Rhino pioneer rack and I seem to get by with this. It is actually a very wide rack and I am able to place tent and two other large bags beside it lengthwise. The low profile of the Pioneer rack is greta for getting in and around the concrete jungle. One thing to consider is the ovreall weight the pioneer racks although alloy are not actually that light they are made very strong and I can easily walk around on it without a bother I think you will find over a 1/3 of your roof capacity is consumed just with the rack throw a tyre up their and one full jerry and you will be close to the limits.

On topic I believe Rhino have spacers as well for their legs so you may be able to space out to get a level long rack.

[D3mike]

Stornoway - I have the extended factory racks - with Rhino heavy duty aero bars with Foxwing and Thule roof box. Looking at the Rhino website the longest pioneer rack only goes to the dip over the second row.

Thought about Tradesman oval and Windcheetah they do longer trays. Not sure about there claim to 150kgs tho as factory load says 75kgs.

D3mike
05 TDV SE D3

[discotwinturbo]

. Looking at the Rhino website the longest pioneer rack only goes to the dip over the second row.
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D3mike
05 TDV SE D3

yep....it's a little short. What I do is slide it forward to the front legs, and the roof topper hangs off the rear by about 20-30cm. Still have room for spare and chairs. The longer option becomes too wide for the roof.

[discotwinturbo]

Correct me if I am wrong....often am....the 75 kg weight limit is from LR.
Some uk racks take up to 200 kgs.....they advertise this openly.
I do know for a fact that the rhino rack will handle significantly more than 75kgs, but this is not advertised purely due to LR's specifications.
I don't think that I would want to push it with the legs being above the windows....they might pop out. LOL

[SBD4]

Correct me if I am wrong....often am....the 75 kg weight limit is from LR.
Some uk racks take up to 200 kgs.....they advertise this openly.
I do know for a fact that the rhino rack will handle significantly more than 75kgs, but this is not advertised purely due to LR's specifications.
I don't think that I would want to push it with the legs being above the windows....they might pop out. LOL

Yes that's right - it's not that the roof can't support more weight, its more about the raised centre of gravity, vehicle dynamics and thus safety.

[CSBrisie]

Thanks all, valuable info, cheers

[gotaflat]

Anyone got one of the above fitted? I'm trying to work out if I need to swap my LR short roof rails for long ones in order to fit the long version of the PPR. I dont think additional "front legs" (as per LR Expedition rack) are available from Rhino so you are stuck with short rack or fiiting the long roof rails?
cheers

Here is one FYI. I got the platform rack fitted before a trip across to WA from Melbourne. If this does not work - I have quickly jammed some pics on photo Bucket Robs Disco pictures by gotaflat - Photobucket (http://s413.photobucket.com/albums/pp213/gotaflat/Robs%20Disco/)
. I forget how to post pics, but when I get some time tonight I will try to sort out re-post.

http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp213/gotaflat/Robs%20Disco/IMG_2160.jpg

[discotwinturbo]

Here is one FYI. I got the platform rack fitted before a trip across to WA from Melbourne. If this does not work - I have quickly jammed some pics on photo Bucket Robs Disco pictures by gotaflat - Photobucket (http://s413.photobucket.com/albums/pp213/gotaflat/Robs%20Disco/)
. I forget how to post pics, but when I get some time tonight I will try to sort out re-post.

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So how long is yours ? Now I am talking about the rack!
Seems a little longer, but also sits higher off the roof than mine.
I have the flat platform, with the moveable rails on top.

[D3mike]

Correct me if I am wrong....often am....the 75 kg weight limit is from LR.
Some uk racks take up to 200 kgs.....they advertise this openly.
I do know for a fact that the rhino rack will handle significantly more than 75kgs, but this is not advertised purely due to LR's specifications.
I don't think that I would want to push it with the legs being above the windows....they might pop out. LOL

Agree with you discotwinturbo, 75kgs is what the LR spec says - insurance may be the issue if overloaded in the worst case scenario. Tradesman call out 150kgs in Oz, not sure about windcheetah tho.

D3mike

[brad72]

LR is quite definite about the 75Kg because of shifting the centre of gravity too much and risking a roll-over. The guys at LR said the roof will support more than 75kg, just no when driving.

I built some alloy racks similar to the wind cheeta and the total weigh of the rack is 22Kg so I can still put 53 kg up there which is enough for all the bulky stuff that takes up heaps of room in the cabin.

For heavy stuff like water jerry cans I made a towbar mounted rack that can hold 3 x 25L jerry's.


Picture of the rack prior to fabricating the mounting feet.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1338/roofracku.jpg

[gotaflat]

So how long is yours ? Now I am talking about the rack!
Seems a little longer, but also sits higher off the roof than mine.
I have the flat platform, with the moveable rails on top.

This is my platform rack
Rhino Rack - Roof Racks for LAND ROVER Discovery 3 and 4 4WD (with factory tracks long) 04/05 On (http://www.rhinorack.com.au/Vehicle_LAND%20ROVER_Discovery%203%20and%204_Page_ 1_System_Pioneer-Platform-42103--R--Ext-Track-Mount_4738_4668.aspx)

Length 1928mm
Width 1376mm

It does sit higher than I hoped - I think its because I have the factory long rails ?? I am keen to see if there are legs that allow it so sit lower?
Do you know the part number for your legs - mine is "Part No: RLT502" which give it so much hight.

[discotwinturbo]

This is my platform rack
Rhino Rack - Roof Racks for LAND ROVER Discovery 3 and 4 4WD (with factory tracks long) 04/05 On (http://www.rhinorack.com.au/Vehicle_LAND%20ROVER_Discovery%203%20and%204_Page_ 1_System_Pioneer-Platform-42103--R--Ext-Track-Mount_4738_4668.aspx)

Length 1928mm
Width 1376mm

It does sit higher than I hoped - I think its because I have the factory long rails ?? I am keen to see if there are legs that allow it so sit lower?
Do you know the part number for your legs - mine is "Part No: RLT502" which give it so much hight.

Part numbers for the four rear legs (the higher part of the roof) are RLTP and RLTF for the two front legs for the lower part. The Lower front part also needed spacers LHS2PAIR.

The rack is lower but possibly due to the rhino tracks.....they only come up maximum 1cm from the original black track covers that I removed. But the legs are quite low too, and attached directly to the platform.

[jliquorish]

And did you know LANDROVER only rate weight limit to 50kg when offroad?

[Owen]

I have the Rhino long rack, but fitted a narrower one. It's a PIA to do the bolts though as it sits low on the mounts. I have the little stumpy front track and longer mounts plus spacers on the front to get it all aligned.

It all works well and gives good flexibility when I just want cross bars. It is noisy though, hopefully this will go when I fabricate a wind deflector