WHY! 40 foot WHALE SHARK

[banjo]

Just seen this on the yahoo home page.Why would anyone want to catch one of these giants of the sea i have no idea..



40ft Whale shark caught in Pakistan - 40ft Whale shark caught in Pakistan - Page 1 - Photo Galleries - Yahoo!7 News (http://au.news.yahoo.com/galleries/g/12840894/40ft-whale-shark-caught-in-pakistan/12840900/)

[Scouse]

The shark was spotted floating on the surface off the Pakistan coast late last week.

and

Two cranes are needed to lift the carcass ashore in Karachi, Pakistan.

seem to indicate the shark was found dead already.

[It'sNotWorthComplaining!]

That's a lot of Curried Flake

[banjo]

The shark was spotted floating on the surface off the Pakistan coast late last week.

and

Two cranes are needed to lift the carcass ashore in Karachi, Pakistan.

seem to indicate the shark was found dead already.

Cool did'nt say that in what i had read so thought they must of caught it..

[disco2hse]

The next question, would you eat a fish you found floating in a place like that? Sure as hell, I wouldn't :toilet:

[mick88]

The news report on TV said they sold it for $17,000 so someone must have the intention of doing something commercially with it!
Most likely for human consumption.


Cheers, Mick

[Ean Austral]

Can just about guarantee the fins will get lopped off and sold for sharkfin soup...

Grind up the meat and sell it as a pill the make the old fella hard.

Wont be much that doesn't get used.


Cheers Ean

[Bearman]

In the video it appears relatively fresh and subtle. I would say it probably suffered an ak round to the head. Any fish that die from natural causes sink to the bottom and if not consumed by others rise to the surface several days later when bloating occurs. No sign of decomposition in the video - even the eyes looks in good condition which is a sign of freshness. My guess is that it was hunted down. These sharks are harmless and it is a shame to see them killed.:(

[newhue]

the fins off it for soup for sure.
I recall counting 50 packets of finns in one lean too street stall in Vietnam, walk to the next stall and count another 50 or so, walk to the next store same again.

Quite mind boggling when when there may be a dozen stalls in a row at the markets. Still like Ean says, not much gets wasted.

[bob10]

Many years ago I had the opportunity to visit Pakistan,not being politically correct, or nasty, there was nothing about the place or the people I liked. Recently, with the Afgan experience, I feel vindicated. People who don't value Human life , certainly are not going to value natural life. Anyone who has ever seen a whale shark will know how much courage it would take to kill one. If this is an indication of how these arseholes have wiped out their fish industry, and now are targeting the whale shark, we are in bigger trouble than I thought. Bob

[Ean Austral]

Look up Basking shark on google, these are the most sort after shark for shark fins..(im sure I have the spelling right)...

They are very similar to whale sharks, but sadly they have HUGE fins, and are hunted for them...

Sad that a race such as humans need all these so called aphrodesiacs for the race to keep surviving..


Cheers Ean

[isuzurover]

More info here and a video.
Seven-tonne fish pulled from water (http://www.theage.com.au/environment/conservation/seventonne-fish-pulled-from-water-20120208-1razs.html)

[Mick_Marsh]

Mmmmm!
Lots of frozen fish cakes and tinned seafood mix exported to Aus.

[richard4u2]

The news report on TV said they sold it for $17,000 so someone must have the intention of doing something commercially with it!
Most likely for human consumption.


Cheers, Mick
i just had a pre packaged fillet of fish from new zeland for dinner :( should i be worried :confused:

[incisor]

i just had a pre packaged fillet of fish from new zeland for dinner :( should i be worried :confused:
that is where they repack the fish from china before bringing it into here isnt it?

[slug_burner]

In the video it appears relatively fresh and subtle. I would say it probably suffered an ak round to the head. Any fish that die from natural causes sink to the bottom and if not consumed by others rise to the surface several days later when bloating occurs. No sign of decomposition in the video - even the eyes looks in good condition which is a sign of freshness. My guess is that it was hunted down. These sharks are harmless and it is a shame to see them killed.:(

goldfish tend to float when they die

[It'sNotWorthComplaining!]

The next question, would you eat a fish you found floating in a place like that? Sure as hell, I wouldn't :toilet:
You'd be suprised.
I took a Sri lanken out fishing, we got a gummy shark, on board I bled it and gutted it straight away. I was told off for wasting what he referred to as the best part. Then we caught some Snapper, and on cleaning it at the ramp and throwing the milt sacs and roe out for the pelicans. Again he reckons I was throwing away the best part.:o
Told the Chinese guy at work about what we caught and he asked if I kept the shark fins for his wife to dry.:o
Another time I took a Cambodian worker out and went whiting fishing.
At the ramp cleaning table I scaled and filleted the King George whiting and he reckons I was throwing away the best part.:eek:
He told me they like to eat their fish whole. I said what with guts in them? He said they deep fry them and eat the whole fish, and the head cheeks were a delicacy.
Most of the Cambodians at work used to eat rice with little fried whole fish , they were only 10cm long fish but whole and plenty of that stinking fish sauce PHEW!!
So one man's waste is another ones delicacy:eek:

[Ean Austral]

You'd be suprised.
I took a Sri lanken out fishing, we got a gummy shark, on board I bled it and gutted it straight away. I was told off for wasting what he referred to as the best part. Then we caught some Snapper, and on cleaning it at the ramp and throwing the milt sacs and roe out for the pelicans. Again he reckons I was throwing away the best part.:o
Told the Chinese guy at work about what we caught and he asked if I kept the shark fins for his wife to dry.:o
Another time I took a Cambodian worker out and went whiting fishing.
At the ramp cleaning table I scaled and filleted the King George whiting and he reckons I was throwing away the best part.:eek:
He told me they like to eat their fish whole. I said what with guts in them? He said they deep fry them and eat the whole fish, and the head cheeks were a delicacy.
Most of the Cambodians at work used to eat rice with little fried whole fish , they were only 10cm long fish but whole and plenty of that stinking fish sauce PHEW!!
So one man's waste is another ones delicacy:eek:

I have seen 1 worse than that...many years ago we had 2 Japanese fishing captains work with us for 3 weeks, and they used to keep the crap shutes, or viens that run down the backs of prawns..They put them in a jar and added some soy sauce, and kept them in the cupboard for a week or so..

You can judge for yourself what it would have been like when they opened the jar and ate the contents...:no2::no2::no2:

1 of the very few times in 28 yrs I was sick at sea.

Cheers Ean

[isuzurover]

He said the ... cheeks were a delicacy.


The cheeks are by far the tastiest part of a fish.

Next time you have a large fish like a snapper, gut it, scale it and cook it with the head on. I am sure you will agree.

[disco2hse]

i just had a pre packaged fillet of fish from new zeland for dinner :( should i be worried :confused:

Most fish caught off the coast here are packaged on the ship and offloaded to Asia. Some is exported to other countries, like NZ. The whole deal stinks. :mad:

Very little is actually brought ashore for processing.

[TerryO]

I remember seeing a doco on Discovery channel some time ago about how whale sharks are hunted around India and are a staple for many fishing communities, from memory several other nations fish them as well and have done so for thousands of years.

While these are amazing fish and could be easily overfished the fact that they have been fished for so long around these countries without becoming extinct shows maybe there is some workable balance.

We often judge others harshly for eating big fish like this or the Japanese or Norwegians for eating whale etc but I have never heard of a Hindu saying negative things about how westerners eat cow or Jews or Muslims bagging us publicly for eating pig.

Maybe its a case of recognising that every race has their own often unique practises and some times we may not agree them, but unless it harms us directly or threatens the extinction of some creature then why not just accept each to their own?

Just to prove how tolerant I am I have been known to even speak (nicely) with some Crusier owners and a mate of mine has a Pootrol. ...:eek:

cheers,
Terry

[101RRS]

We shouldn't get all high and mighty as we have a shark finning fishery and most (but not all) commercial fishers will take fins if sharks are caught. However in the Commonwealth fisheries (and some state fisheries) the law requires the carcass be kept where fins are removed - this takes up valuable space on the fishing vessel so acts as a deterrent to finning.

Any vessel landing shark fin without the carcass is in deep do do.

Whale sharks are a protected species in Aust so any Whale Shark fins would normally be illegal (not sure what happens if bycatch).

Garry

[Ean Austral]

I remember seeing a doco on Discovery channel some time ago about how whale sharks are hunted around India and are a staple for many fishing communities, from memory several other nations fish them as well and have done so for thousands of years.

While these are amazing fish and could be easily overfished the fact that they have been fished for so long around these countries without becoming extinct shows maybe there is some workable balance.

We often judge others harshly for eating big fish like this or the Japanese or Norwegians for eating whale etc but I have never heard of a Hindu saying negative things about how westerners eat cow or Jews or Muslims bagging us publicly for eating pig.

Maybe its a case of recognising that every race has their own often unique practises and some times we may not agree them, but unless it harms us directly or threatens the extinction of some creature then why not just accept each to their own?

Just to prove how tolerant I am I have been known to even speak (nicely) with some Crusier owners and a mate of mine has a Pootrol. ...:eek:

cheers,
Terry

Gday Terry,

I could open a real can of worms in debating your comments, but where I do agree with some of what you say, I will only say that when other country's have to introduce a NIL take of certain species, because they are considered THREATENED not endangered, you can see why people react as they do.

I know a few people who made their living catching shark in the NT only to see the fishery 98% closed down because of both public opinion and fishing policies, and the remaining 1 boat that does catch shark, is close to calling it quits..

I do however agree that finning ONLY of sharks should be and is illegal in Australian waters, its just a shame that its not being completely stopped from the illegal boats in our waters..Something I have seen with my own eye's....but thats for another totally different thread

Cheers Ean

[TerryO]

Hi Ean,

Actually after reading your comments I'm not sure where you are agreeing with me and where you are disagreeing with me.

cheers,
Terry

[Ean Austral]

Hi Ean,

Actually after reading your comments I'm not sure where you are agreeing with me and where you are disagreeing with me.

cheers,
Terry

I agree with the part about how tolerant you are...talking to cruiser owners.

But when it comes to believing that fisheries are sustainable because there is still something left,I must say I have to disagree with to an extent.. that was where I was coming from..

I do wish you worked for AFMA,especially in the Northern prawn section, as if you did with that outlook I would have far more $$$$ than I have at the moment..

Got to give you full marks tho for admitting you have a friend with a Pootrol :p:p:p

Cheers Ean

[TerryO]

Hi Ean,

I think we are talking about two different scenario's, In general I was speaking about showing tolerance for local communites fishing for their own historical useage.

Whereas you seem to be comparing it to large scale commercial fishing where product is potentially sold around the globe.

No offence and I'm not trying to put blame on anyone, but in general the two types of fishing are quite different in many ways. One has shown over often thousands of years to usually be sustainable, whereas the other often in less than a 100 years has seriously depleted natural fish stocks.

Anyway we can agree that LR's are a good thing at the very least ...;)

cheers,
Terry

[Ean Austral]

Hi Ean,

I think we are talking about two different scenario's, In general I was speaking about showing tolerance for local communites fishing for their own historical usage.

Whereas you seem to be comparing it to large scale commercial fishing where product is potentially sold around the globe.

No offence and I'm not trying to put blame on anyone, but in general the two types of fishing are quite different in many ways. One has shown over often thousands of years to usually be sustainable, whereas the other often in less than a 100 years has seriously depleted natural fish stocks.

Anyway we can agree that LR's are a good thing at the very least ...;)

cheers,
Terry

Gday Terry

I can fully understand your point of view, and have never been against people fishing in their traditional ways for their own survival and needs.
The same can be said for catching whales for a foodsource that has been done for centuries.

The downside of this is that the traditional methods of catching these, has been replaced in most cases with modern equipment and this is where the imbalance starts and the scales tip away from the hunted species.ie whales we once hunted in longboats with a hand thrown harpoon, but now are hunted in factory ships..

But thats for another thread, and yes we can agree L/R's are good and D3's are :D:D:D machines.

Cheers Ean