Roof racks for a 90..

[Sue]

I've been shopping around for roof racks for my car and am unsure what I should be looking for... they will only be used occasionally for camping gear (due to the limited space in the back) and perhaps a spare for longer trips and a jerry can.. and to support an awning.. Hubby is leaning towards the Rhino rack system (but I'm not that sold on it) has anyone got any idea's on where I should be looking.. (oh I am on a budget so am not looking at spending thousands lol).. :)

[Xtreme]

Hannibul are pretty popular, look good and have various accessories for securing jerries and spares etc.

Look here Hannibal Safari Australia (http://www.hannibalsafari.com.au/roofRack.html)

[pushrod]

hi Sue..
check out the Wind Cheetah roof racks...

the 2m long one fits nicely on a 90 Def

Wind Cheetah Roof Rack for Land Rover Defender 90, 110 and 130 | Buy 4x4 Land Rover Toyota Nissan Accessories and Parts Online Store | Expedition Centre Australia by Mulgo (http://www.expeditioncentre.com.au/online-store/roof-rack-storage/roof-racks/wind-cheetah-roof-rack-for-land-rover-defender-90-110-and-130.html)

[juddy]

Pm sent.

Re Hannibal and patriot racks.

[inside]

Pm sent.

Re Hannibal and patriot racks.
I'm looking hard for that vendor tag under your name, must be my eyes or something...

[juddy]

I'm looking hard for that vendor tag under your name, must be my eyes or something...

Indeed, I was only offering my thoughts, don't need to be a vender for that.

But I do need a vender sub for some other stuff, can you point me in the right direction

[Sue]

I'm looking hard for that vendor tag under your name, must be my eyes or something...

Juddy is a friend of mine so it makes sense that he would send me a PM with info on something I have asked for.. :)

And thanks everyone for the info... I'll take a look at them now.. :)

[jc109]

How does one get their hands on Patriot here in Aus without paying through the nose for shipping and taxes?

[jimb]

Budget? Common Sue, you have limited editon- only the best!

I personally like the racks the follow defender roof line aka G3 style but have read heaps of threads on this are it seems the wins cheetah and Hannibal are tops + rhinos do the job and also allow individual to lift on and off.


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[juddy]

The last comment is very true. You do have a limited Ed 90, so a proper Rack would be the way to go.

I sold a hannibal Rack to a owner of the same 90 as you Sue, in ACT a few weeks ago, I also fitted, a 90 rack here in BNE a few weeks ago to a very nice 90, ( admittedly we had issues with the Awning ) but none the less we are working on this.... and the rack looks the D's B's.......

For such a Fantastic 90, you should really consider Hannibal. Patriot, or Wind cheater, if funds allow.....

Just try and avoid one of those stupid shopping basket jobbies...

J

[KarlB]

I have a 1.4 m Wind Cheetah on my D90. Stops just before the sun hatch. I have found it more that large enough for what I want to carry on the roof.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/02/173.jpg

What I particularly like about the Wind Cheetah is the optional stainless steel table that slides underneath. You can see the rails into which the table slides in the photo. The rack has slightly longer legs to allow for the table.

Cheers
KarlB
:)

[Vin Rouge]

Mine's a Hannibal which perioidically carries the roof top tent. It's extremely quiet and does not seem to adversely affect fuel consumption. Not cheap but good. Note the way that the load is spread along the length of the roof gutter.

[Loubrey]

Sue,

I've got the 2.0m Wind Cheetah with the optional shorter legs (I had headroom limits when I was back in Perth). The system is modular and the channels in the cross slats are designed to accept a near unlimited list of accessories. I can’t remember if yours has a sunroof, which would make KarB’s setup more suitable. I personally prefer the longer rack purely because of my list of occasional equipment.

My current setup is 2 double jerry can racks, a spare wheel mount (Pilbara living – only a fool set off out without the second spare!) and 8 eyelets for ratchet strapping all and everything additional down. I considered the slide-in table, but you require the longer leg setup for that and the lower profile was more important to me.

I’m not a vendor :D and I have no affiliation to any either, but I’ve had Front Runner roof racks for many years and I can honestly vouch for their strength, quality, durability and functionality.

[Defender Mike]

I am going for the wind cheeta the 1936 x 1380 size. Curiously they dont say this is to fit a 90 in the Dolium web page but when you go to the picture there it is on a 90. Takes up the whole roof and with roof top tent fitted still allows around 650 x 1380 mm of space for jerrys swags etc. see pic below of a 2m rack on the 90.
Mike:)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/02/130.jpg

[Loubrey]

Mike,

That's the one I've got fitted. I've just opted for the shorter legs.

You can just see the base of the RHS jerry can mounts on the rear corner. It also comes with a wind deflector plate in the front centre to eliminate wind noise.

Dolium advertises the shorter one as bespoke 90 as you can more easily exceed Land Rover's max roof weight with the longer one. I've always had the 2.0m (1936mm) one for jerries and rooftop tent (folding forward and a shortened ladder resting on the bulbar)

[kenleyfred]

Another recommendation for spending the extra and getting the Hannibal. We have the full Hannibal setup and love it. I went without for a long time, but it was worth saving up for. The quality and look is superb.
Sadly while I work this week the wife is away camping in the RTT.
Kenley

[Yorkshire_Jon]

Having seen and used all sorts of racks on many defenders I would defo choose Patriot over anything.

That said, at the moment in Aus availability may be a bit of an issue.

They are worth the extra $$ though, especially on a special 90.

Hth
J

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[sumosmurf76]

Sue,
I got the 2m Windcheetah.
hope the pics help.
By the way.....the racks are great for Ikea flat packs

[Sue]

Thanks everyone.. I really like both the Hannibal and the Wind Cheetah racks but hubby (aka the one with the dollars) has decided that he will make it himself (we are in the manufacturing business so have the facility to do it).. I have seen the design he has done and I quite like it.. watch this space.. :)

[PAT303]

Sue,I have the 110 X-Tech but I'm taking a different route,I'm going to rivet alloy rectangle tubing down the roof and fit a safari roof off a series LR to it and then alloy flat bar down it as roof runners.The body will be Nara Bronze with a black roof,then a nara bronze safari roof with black runners,it'll look really good. Pat

[Sue]

Sue,I have the 110 X-Tech but I'm taking a different route,I'm going to rivet alloy rectangle tubing down the roof and fit a safari roof off a series LR to it and then alloy flat bar down it as roof runners.The body will be Nara Bronze with a black roof,then a nara bronze safari roof with black runners,it'll look really good. Pat

That sounds good.. post pics when you've done it as I would love to see it! :)

[Dennis MacGyver]

The 2 meter roof rack has a mounting problem due to the factory external roll bar on the forward cab of the D90. The standard mounting legs interfere with the roll bar.

Know of any solutions?


Thanks in advance, Dennis

[KarlB]

The 2 meter roof rack has a mounting problem due to the factory external roll bar on the forward cab of the D90. The standard mounting legs interfere with the roll bar.

Know of any solutions?


Thanks in advance, Dennis

Talk to these guys Dennis:

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111 EAST CEDAR AVE
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BURBANK, CA 91502, USA
info@FrontRunnerOutfitters.com (info@FrontRunnerOutfitters.com)
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or these:

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PAUL MAY
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1173 EAST 100 SOUTH
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Paul@Equipt1.com (Paul@Equipt1.com)
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Cheers
KarlB
:)

[Yorkshire_Jon]

Patriot roofracks have special fitting solutions for external roll cages.

Easy!

[LARO]

Great info about rack choice. Any recommendations about length of the rack for a 90. You can get most racks in 140, 160 and 200cm? Wouldn't the 200cm create more wind noise than a 140cm?

Cheers,
Michael

[Loubrey]

I've got a 2.0m Wind Cheetah and I can't say there is much wind noise. The shorter ones might be quiter, but on 90 you need all the available space, especially if you want a rooftent option...

[KarlB]

With the Wind Cheetah 1400, you cannot fit a 'wind deflecter' which reduces the noise if you also fit the under rack table.

Cheers
KarlB
:)

[LARO]

And a picture of the 2m Windcheetah installed on my 2.2 Puma 90. I can't hear any additional wind noise. Now for the tent...

The rack was installed by Oppositelock in North Melbourne in 10 minutes

[juddy]

And a picture of the 2m Windcheetah installed on my 2.2 Puma 90. I can't hear any additional wind noise. Now for the tent...

The rack was installed by Oppositelock in North Melbourne in 10 minutes

Ten minutes? That's about - 3 hours quicker than Hannibal.

[Yorkshire_Jon]

Ten minutes? That's about - 3 hours quicker than Hannibal.

And about 1.5hrs quicker than a Patriot:)

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[Loubrey]

The Wind Cheetah rack takes 5 minutes to remove or replace by 2 adults once it's been fitted (2.0m on a 90).

The low profile makes washing the roof a little hard, so I tend to take it off every now and then to give the car a good scrub (red Pilbara dust!) and if I have no trips planned, I'll just leave it off for a week or two.

Putting it back is even easier than taking it of, you just need to take care not to scratch the roof when you slide it back on from the rear (piece of split hose on the front "foot" to slide along the gutter).

[JayBoRover]

And a picture of the 2m Windcheetah installed on my 2.2 Puma 90. I can't hear any additional wind noise. Now for the tent...

The rack was installed by Oppositelock in North Melbourne in 10 minutes
I went and had a look at the Wind Cheetah range the other day. Definitely looks the goods, especially with the range of accessory mountings. I agree with the choice of 2m rack for the D90, even though the brochure shows it for D110 only. Have you put a roof tent on yet, Laro? I'd be very, very keen to see that and get an idea of spare space on the rack for gas bottle mounts. I'm keen to keep the gas bottle outside and away from "fiddling reach" (so a little inclined to steer away rom rear mounted gas bottle racks).
There's an ARB roof tent for sale over here in WA, second hand but unused for $1200. Might just have to have a look at that.
I pick up my new D90 on Thursday.
Cheers
John B

[Yorkshire_Jon]

I went and had a look at the Wind Cheetah range the other day. Definitely looks the goods...

I pick up my new D90 on Thursday...


John,
If you haven't already, do yourself a favour and contact Juddy on here for some info on the Patriot racks, they seriously knock anything else into the prevarbial cocked hat!!

R
Jon

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[KarlB]

I have never seen a Patriot Rack in the flesh. Plenty of Front Runner Wind Cheetah racks and quite a few Hannibal Racks (IMHO the two best rack makes currently available in Australia). Why are Patriot better than either the Wind Cheetah or Hannibal? What can the Patriots do that the others cannot? And importantly what would be the cost difference (one for you Juddy)?

Cheers
KarlB
:)
PS I currently have a 1.4 m Wind Cheetah on my D90.

[JayBoRover]

I have never seen a Patriot Rack in the flesh. Plenty of Front Runner Wind Cheetah racks and quite a few Hannibal Racks (IMHO the two best rack makes currently available in Australia). Why are Patriot better than either the Wind Cheetah or Hannibal? What can the Patriots do that the others cannot? And importantly what would be the cost difference (one for you Juddy)?

Cheers
KarlB
:)
PS I currently have a 1.4 m Wind Cheetah on my D90.
I guess while a bunch of questions are being asked of the Patriot racks, who/where are they available from? One big plus in my book for the Wind Cheetah racks is an agent (Opposite Lock) is only a few km away and he stocks a range of the parts and accessories. I haven't managed to see a Patriot rack, so I'm wary of the availability of parts, accessories and future support.
Cheers
John B

[juddy]

I have never seen a Patriot Rack in the flesh. Plenty of Front Runner Wind Cheetah racks and quite a few Hannibal Racks (IMHO the two best rack makes currently available in Australia). Why are Patriot better than either the Wind Cheetah or Hannibal? What can the Patriots do that the others cannot? And importantly what would be the cost difference (one for you Juddy)?

Cheers
KarlB
:)
PS I currently have a 1.4 m Wind Cheetah on my D90.

Hi Karl

Up until 2 weeks ago you would have been 100% correct in thinking Hannibal and Front Runner were the best 2 racks available on the market here in Australia. International Patriot have reputation for making possible the best roof racks on the market, and are synonymous with the Land Rover brand.

I have believed that there was not enough competition at the higher end of the roof rack market, and as such, have secured the distribution rights to the wide range of Patriot roof racks and associated products to be sold via Landybitz Australia.

Why are Patriot racks better than Wind Cheater, the same question should be asked about why are Hannibal better than Wind cheater, well they are.

Both Hannibal and Patriot are evenly priced in the market place, and both have their dedicated followers. Hannibal are better know here in Australia, given they have been around for around 10 years, Patriot on the other hand have never launched in Australia, until now.

Hannibal racks are manufactured in Africa, Patriot are designed, engineered and manufactured in the UK, in this day and age that in its self is unique.

The manufacturing process in the UK, far out weighs the quality from both the African and Asian racks that are available on the market today.

One of the major advantages of the Patriot Racks, are their modular component construction made from aircraft grade aluminium, with unique styling. The modularity affords increased flexibility with designs and the ability to make future modification with ease. Being constructed in this way also allows the rack more rigidity, where as the Hannibal racks are seam welded, and are more prone to flex, which can lead to weld fracturing, this in turn can cause over stressing of the roof gutter line.

Patriot also produce a wider range of quality rack accessories than Hannibal.

Hope that offers a little clarity.

Further information can be obtained directly from landybitz..........

[juddy]

I guess while a bunch of questions are being asked of the Patriot racks, who/where are they available from? One big plus in my book for the Wind Cheetah racks is an agent (Opposite Lock) is only a few km away and he stocks a range of the parts and accessories. I haven't managed to see a Patriot rack, so I'm wary of the availability of parts, accessories and future support.
Cheers
John B

Hi John

Patriot Products are exclusively available from Landybitz Australia.

Patriot products have only been available commercially here in Australia for the last 2 weeks, therefore, I am in no way surprised you have not seen any yet. Landybitz will be actively promoting the Patriot range of products at trade and industry shows nationally in the near future.

Landybitz are based in Queensland and is able to distribute parts and accessories throughout Australia.

Regards

Justin

[LARO]

I went and had a look at the Wind Cheetah range the other day. Definitely looks the goods, especially with the range of accessory mountings. I agree with the choice of 2m rack for the D90, even though the brochure shows it for D110 only. Have you put a roof tent on yet, Laro? I'd be very, very keen to see that and get an idea of spare space on the rack for gas bottle mounts. I'm keen to keep the gas bottle outside and away from "fiddling reach" (so a little inclined to steer away rom rear mounted gas bottle racks).
There's an ARB roof tent for sale over here in WA, second hand but unused for $1200. Might just have to have a look at that.
I pick up my new D90 on Thursday.
Cheers
John B

Hi John,

I now have a roof top tent on LARO.

Cheers,
Michael

[LARO]

Used in anger in Flinders Ranges

[nedflanders]

Hi, on the subject of Patriot Racks I live (for the next month) about 1 mile from where they are manufactured, I went and had a chat with them before deciding and after looking at everything else at the various shows was very impressed. I honestly can't see how a rack could be possibly stronger! They had mine ready before I got there and fitted in 10minutes, I did replace the nuts on the clamps for security ones as some lowlife over here would have lifted it, it is a fair investment but if they are now available in Australia IMHO you can't get better. I will be fitting an awning to mine in the future, just not sure which yet. By the way and not trying to upset anyone they were repairing and modifying a customers Hannabil rack that had fractured it's mounts while I was there (but who knows what he was doing to or with it!)
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2493/roofrack.jpg
Shot at 2012-07-30
Mine came with the upper bar round the front and included where the front sloping bits which I fitted instead.

[tequesta]

Hi, been following this for some time, and have been trying to understand why most D90 owners do not go with the LR roof rack? Just curious.
James

[juddy]

Because they are very expensive , and the 90 one is non roof tent compatible.

[Yorkshire_Jon]

And because they are heavy, the powder coating is rubbish and they are made of steel and rust.

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[juddy]

Very heavy......