EGR blanking kit

[frostyblue]

Hi All, just was wondering where in Brissy if possible could I buy a blanking kit instead of ordering from interstate, I'm slowly going thru some jobs I would like to get done, I've just replaced the rotors and brake pads, new coolant, cleaned the oily connectors on the ECU and removed MAF and cleaned, have a new wheel sensor fitted so at the moment its going very well and should be ready for a few days away at Glendon for some much needed gold panning.

cheers

Ken

[NWTASD2]

Hi Frosty,

I have just seen one from the UK ( I know you wanted one local) it is only a plate and not a tube.

eBay Australia: Buy new & used fashion, electronics & home d (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/200721836869'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

But is it cheap and possibly worth the wait.

I have been considering one for my new truck.

My question is.. are they worth the installation and can they do more harm than good installing one?.

Also does this possibly exacerbate the flow of oil up the ECU wiring harness if the old oil has no where else to go? Or are these two things completely unrelated?

Cheers

[BPTP7270]

I had a read of the link about the pluses of installing one, but are they worth the effort?

[Pedro_The_Swift]

for you guys south of the- er, pole, maybe a PM to Justinc;)

[goingbush]

Removing the EGR has absolutely no relation to the oil in the loom / ECU issue.
Blanking off / Removing the EGR is the best thing you can possibly do to increase the longevity of any Diesel engine , esp the TD5 . I would put it at the top of the to-do list, with the exception of a reduction of exhaust smoke you won't notice any performance difference but your engine will thank you very much.

[BPTP7270]

What is it that the EGR blanking fixes, that is doing harm to the engine?

[alpick]

When you do the job and see the amount of accumulated black "gunk" that is in the inlet downstream of the EGR you will appreciate the benefit of giving your donk clean air to breathe.

One day I'll pull off the intake manifold and clean it all up proper like and use the stuff to tar my garage roof.

[BPTP7270]

I googled the EGR last night and I now understand the issue. It is obviously there for good environmental reason, but it really is a bad idea to mix dirty air with good air and feed it to your engine. Guess I will be buying a blanking plate!!

[gavinwibrow]

Hi Frosty,

I have just seen one from the UK ( I know you wanted one local) it is only a plate and not a tube.

eBay Australia: Buy new & used fashion, electronics & home d (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/200721836869'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

But is it cheap and possibly worth the wait.

I have been considering one for my new truck.

My question is.. are they worth the installation and can they do more harm than good installing one?.

Also does this possibly exacerbate the flow of oil up the ECU wiring harness if the old oil has no where else to go? Or are these two things completely unrelated?

Cheers
So, having just ordered a goodun ex pommieland, does anyone know the operational and any other relevant differences (apart from the price) between a plate and the more expensive tubed arrangement?

[goingbush]

you will need the plate AND the tube arraignment

[gavinwibrow]

you will need the plate AND the tube arraignment
Ta. I have the tube arrangement on order, but was interested as to why the tube is needed (will be in my case anyway to insert a probe) and why someone would sell just the plate if apparently it won't do the job.

[goingbush]

You have probably seen this tutorial, if not everything is explained
www.discovery2.co.uk /workshop - EGR removal (http://www.discovery2.co.uk/egr.html)

btw the Defender TD5 does not need the EGR installed to comply with Austrailan emission standards. mine passed the new stricter Vic RWC no problems without it fitted.

[gavinwibrow]

You have probably seen this tutorial, if not everything is explained
www.discovery2.co.uk /workshop - EGR removal (http://www.discovery2.co.uk/egr.html)

btw the Defender TD5 does not need the EGR installed to comply with Austrailan emission standards. mine passed the new stricter Vic RWC no problems without it fitted.
Yep, I have, but had not fully digested urban panzers excellent info thanks.

Silly me - the tube is necessary to continue on to the turbo!!

With the kit I bought from EGRvalve.co.uk - LandRover TD5 EGR Kit (http://www.egrvalve.co.uk/index.php?page=landrover-defender-td5-egr-kit) there are no rubber blanks for urban panzers instructions as copied below.
Last but not least, you can now remove the small plastic vacuum hose that connected to the top of the EGR valve and runs back to the EGR modulator. Once the pipes are off, this is where you fit the 2 small rubber blanks included in the kit.
I may be jumping at shadows, but have asked my supplier to clarify/provide fitting instructions just in case.

[OffTrack]

Fwiw You can get the rubber blanking caps from supercheapauto or similar for a few dollars for a packet of five. 4mm will do the job.

[onebob]

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btw the Defender TD5 does not need the EGR installed to comply with Austrailan emission standards. mine passed the new stricter Vic RWC no problems without it fitted.

can you enlarge on that comment - ie like did they measure the emissions from the exhaust pipe and it was all good - or what?

onebob

[Ollie]

EGR kit fitted and not impressed at the gunk in the inlet manifold. Do you need to disconnect the fuel cooler completely to be able to remove the inlet manifold? Once the manifold is off can you clean out the cyld head inlet ports without causing more problems?A mate asked if the sensor & computer can sort out the higher oxegen flow now the exhaust gas is no longer piped in. If the EGR is there to reduce the vehicles carbon footprint with lower emissions but the oil laden air from the engine breather and the exhaust gas halves the life of the engine, a new engine. Has got to put some big carbon trotters on along the way
Sorry for that stating the obvious is a pain
Cheers Ollie

[NWTASD2]

Thanks Very much for the link to the tutorial. I wish I had of found that before I ordered the plate. Yesturday.

Now I have to find just the tube set-up. Or get a mate to make it.

Thanks again.

This really is an informative forum:cool:

[goingbush]

can you enlarge on that comment - ie like did they measure the emissions from the exhaust pipe and it was all good - or what?

onebob
Yes, subsequent to the RWC, but I don't have a print from engine analyser and all within 2005 spec, but mine also had the decat kit and a tombie stage1 ecu remap.

[northiam]

You can just fit the plate to blank off the exhaust manifold but keep the crossover pipe attached. If you have a pre 2002 model the (tube) on the egr valve is barely restrictive to airflow just disconnect the vaccum line from the egr actuator and plug both ends. Save your money for other things.

[NWTASD2]

Top Tip Northiam.

Cheers TWICE............:cool:

[John W]

EGR kit fitted and not impressed at the gunk in the inlet manifold. Do you need to disconnect the fuel cooler completely to be able to remove the inlet manifold? Once the manifold is off can you clean out the cyld head inlet ports without causing more problems?A mate asked if the sensor & computer can sort out the higher oxegen flow now the exhaust gas is no longer piped in. If the EGR is there to reduce the vehicles carbon footprint with lower emissions but the oil laden air from the engine breather and the exhaust gas halves the life of the engine, a new engine. Has got to put some big carbon trotters on along the way
Sorry for that stating the obvious is a pain
Cheers Ollie

I agree with your thoughts re the environmental impact of choked up engines.

My understanding of EGR, is not to reduce your carbon footprint, rather reduce the nitrogen oxides footprint. It will increase your carbon footprint. Nitrogen oxides are behind visible pollution like smog and acid rain and probably more important by far than carbon footprint for warming the planet. The introduction of the exhaust to the intake is used as a sort of inert gas "filler" so less oxygen and less combustion temperature so less nitrogen oxides produced. So less acid rain but more acid gunk in your donk. Have discovered that my EGR valve is stuck open so I am about to do the Blanking trick myself.