D3 LED Rear lights-Brake, tail and blinker

[NavyDiver]

Moved this from another post about recent D3 Errors and faults to a new post from here (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/144682-gearbox-fault-terrain-system-disabled.html)
Hope your ladies and gents don't mind but it may be a wider topic than it started from or just a little more focused to my selfish agenda sorry.

Very interested if anyone has used a D4 Style rear lights on a D3? I thought the entire rear LED light assembly is only about $100 from the UK I thought but I can only find a $1000 option today (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Land-Rover-LR3-Discovery-3-LED-OEM-Rear-Taillight-Kit-/200642386258?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item2eb737d952). But LED globes are very common now and given they last a LOT better than the incandescent light bulbs which cause me problems I am interested in this option if it works or doesn't cuase me more problems.

I asked at Ritta and it was suggested that this rear tail LED light option might cause the same issues as LED tralier lights on our D3s.

Has anyone done it. Any thought or expiriances appreciated.

Every time a globe goes half my cars systems become more than a little off colour affecting Gears, suspension, traction controls all or some of and only at times.

[~Rich~]

Ive done it,
I'll post photos and details latter tonight. ;)

[connock]

I replaced my brake/tail globes with LED replacement ones and problems gone ( touch wood ) Just have to get the ones that have the LEDs that face forward as well as back as the light needs to reflect off the reflector. As for the indercators you would need to fit a resistor or you will get probs. I didnt do these as they dont give any dramas.

connock

[NavyDiver]

I replaced my brake/tail globes with LED replacement ones and problems gone ( touch wood ) Just have to get the ones that have the LEDs that face forward as well as back as the light needs to reflect off the reflector. As for the indercators you would need to fit a resistor or you will get probs. I didnt do these as they dont give any dramas.

connock

Good point Connock. Thanks. It is only the brakes which seem to affect my D3 when the globes break with seems to give me greif every 30-50,000km or so. LED indicators on trailers causing the problems is a well known and resolverable issue, I am sure your right. If you and Rich have done this I am following you ASAP. The Incandecent globes are failure prone, create more heat than light and in my D3 keep giving me greif at the oddest of occasions. Twice now just after servicing! Might make my machanic paranoid!
Incandecent globes well be off the shelf for home use shortly. Most cars including D4s use LEDs in them for good reasons. They last much better, use less energy and are less failure prone. Hope a LED globe will make my D3 less failure prone!:D
Did you have a part number or supplier for the LED brake/tail lights with forward and backward facing LEDs?

[~Rich~]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/04/658.jpg

This is the Park light and reverse lights.
I have replaced all the rear bulbs to LED's ( apart from the rear fogs!)

As you can see the LED reverse lights are much whiter and brighter.
Bulbs: LAND ROVER / DISCOVERY SUV / 2005-2006 (55) (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/380-Ultimate-Canbus-92-SMD-LED-Bulb.html?bulb_search=c10919) in WHITE

The Parkers and Brake lights are also much brighter too and I like the look of the globes too.
Bulbs: LAND ROVER / DISCOVERY SUV / 2005-2006 (55) (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/380-Ultimate-Canbus-92-SMD-LED-Bulb.html?bulb_search=c10919) in RED
Note: the park and brake light bulbs are the same with the offset pins.

I've also done the blinker bulbs and fitted a resistor to fix the flash rate on the dashboard.
Bulbs: LAND ROVER / DISCOVERY SUV / 2005-2006 (55) (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/380-Ultimate-Canbus-92-SMD-LED-Bulb.html?bulb_search=c10919) in AMBER

Also changed the interior lights to these:
Bulbs: LAND ROVER / DISCOVERY SUV / 2005-2006 (55) (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/380-Ultimate-Canbus-92-SMD-LED-Bulb.html?bulb_search=c10919) in WARM WHITE 12mm x 48mm 12 LED's
No dim interior anymore.

[connock]

Hi weakestlink

Got mine from brightlightautoparts.com
they have a lot of LED lighting

connock

[Mike_S]

I've also changed all the interior lights of my RRS to LED's, along with the front side lights & rear numberplate lights. The interior's no longer a dark dinghy hole, but a nice bright white.

Used these from Alltronix, great bunch to deal with

Alltronix Ltd | Xenon HID Conversion Kits | DRL Headlights | Fog Lights | 8500k Xenon Bulbs | Audi DRL’s | Aero Wipers | Led Indicators (http://www.alltronix.co.uk/index.php'main_page=product_info&products_id=37)

[NavyDiver]

Hi weakestlink

Got mine from brightlightautoparts.com
they have a lot of LED lighting

connock

Thanks Connock

Already ordered LED globes from the UK for my D3. Noted Bright Lights (http://www.brightlightautoparts.com/) is in Ferntree Gully and has some LED options for home at a very good price.

[Gords]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/04/658.jpg

This is the Park light and reverse lights.
I have replaced all the rear bulbs to LED's ( apart from the rear fogs!)

As you can see the LED reverse lights are much whiter and brighter.
Bulbs: LAND ROVER / DISCOVERY SUV / 2005-2006 (55) (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/380-Ultimate-Canbus-92-SMD-LED-Bulb.html?bulb_search=c10919) in WHITE

The Parkers and Brake lights are also much brighter too and I like the look of the globes too.
Bulbs: LAND ROVER / DISCOVERY SUV / 2005-2006 (55) (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/380-Ultimate-Canbus-92-SMD-LED-Bulb.html?bulb_search=c10919) in RED
Note: the park and brake light bulbs are the same with the offset pins.

I've also done the blinker bulbs and fitted a resistor to fix the flash rate on the dashboard.
Bulbs: LAND ROVER / DISCOVERY SUV / 2005-2006 (55) (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/380-Ultimate-Canbus-92-SMD-LED-Bulb.html?bulb_search=c10919) in AMBER

Also changed the interior lights to these:
Bulbs: LAND ROVER / DISCOVERY SUV / 2005-2006 (55) (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/380-Ultimate-Canbus-92-SMD-LED-Bulb.html?bulb_search=c10919) in WARM WHITE 12mm x 48mm 12 LED's
No dim interior anymore.

Thanks Guys! Just discovered this and would love to do the same to my D3. Is it just me or are the links all the same? Anyone know the light spec requirements for the individual lights?

On a related topic... the terrible rear cargo lights... reading this
D3 Pt 8: Snorkel,Tyres | 4WD Book & 4X4 News (http://www.4wdhandbook.com/content/d3-pt-8-snorkeltyres) "For example the rear cargo light is hopelessly dull,so off came the trim, out came the bulb and now there’s two LED strip lightsfrom 4X4 Equip, drawing only 250Ma each, less that the now-disabled standardinterior light. These LEDs are flexible, so can follow the contour of the trimwith a couple of extra plastic fixings"

Would be interested to see a few photos / details of anyones similar cargo light replacement... LED strips seem like the go but I'm sure there are already some great setup's out there! Particularly involving moving the light further to the back of the ceiling as once you have a shelf / fridge etc in the back the shadow kills any light!

Thanks in advance!

[~Rich~]

Hmm, That was ages ago I posted that!

Anyway try this link for the interior lights:
LED Ultra Bright SMD Interior and Exterior Modules (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/LED-Ultra-Bright-SMD-Interior-and-Exterior-Modules.html)
I tried the 30 led ones and had to change them to the 12 led ones.
The 30's are way too bright in the front of the car!

For the brakes & parking bulbs use the link given:
380 Ultimate 92 SMD LED Car Bulb - Red and white (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/380-Ultimate-Canbus-92-SMD-LED-Bulb.html?bulb_search=c10919&source=webgains&siteid=73669)
both in red.

For the blinkers & reverse lights:
382 Ultimate 92 LED Car Bulb - White or Amber Light (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/382-ultimate-canbus-92-smd-led-bulb.html)
both in white.

I'm away in WA for work this week, I'll post a photo of my rear tailgate lighting. LED strips both top and bottom of the window. The bottom ones works well with the lighting into the drawers and back of car.
The top one projects light backward to light outward from the back of the car.

[Gords]

Champion! Cheers mate!

[ctgiles84]

Are these globes not to bright? Do i order the Red for stop/tail and obviously clear for reverse. How hard is it to install the resistor or do they sell globes with resisitors built in now?

[connock]

Are these globes not to bright? Do i order the Red for stop/tail and obviously clear for reverse. How hard is it to install the resistor or do they sell globes with resisitors built in now?

Resistors are all built in just take incandescent globe out and put LED type in and no get white not red, the red ones will not be as bright. I have just ordered two more for around $12 delivered for two.

connock

[ctgiles84]

Where did you order yours from?

[connock]

Where did you order yours from?


try here Pure white 1157 27 5050 SMD LED Car Brake Tail Turn Light lamp Bulb 270LM 12V Free Shipping! - US$5.38 (http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-Pure-White-1157-27-5050-SMD-LED-Car-Brake-Tail-Turn-Light-Lamp-Bulb-270LM-12V-p-43777.html)

they have some great led camping lighting etc as well

connock

[NavyDiver]

Are these globes not to bright? Do i order the Red for stop/tail and obviously clear for reverse. How hard is it to install the resistor or do they sell globes with resisitors built in now?

Not to bright and nothing to do apart from buying them and plugging them in.

The reversing lights are MUCH better in the LED!

Re 'posted ages ago Rich' great advice or very helpful tips never age Rich :D

[Glynhouse]

Morning all, D3 MY07, Have blown 3 brake lights in the 40K that I have owned this vehicle, never had a warning or problem till some kind sole told me that I had a globe out.
Ordered a set of these as recommended above Pure white 1157 27 5050 SMD LED Car Brake Tail Turn Light lamp Bulb 270LM http://www.aulro.com/afvb/<a href=http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/glynhouse/media/tn_IMG_1452_zps2cc0d0b3.jpg.html target=_blank>http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/glynhouse/tn_IMG_1452_zps2cc0d0b3.jpg (http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-Pure-White-1157-27-5050-SMD-LED-Car-Brake-Tail-Turn-Light-Lamp-Bulb-270LM-12V-p-43777.html)12V Free Shipping! - US$5.38

Fitted them yesterday when another standard globe blew, no problems all work.
Drove down to Cairns - 60klms - all fine, went to come home turned on lights and "bong" -"transmission fault, hdc disabled, suspention lowered "
Your kidding ! turned off waited started again no difference.
Turned off, turned off lights, restarted all fine moved off no probs, turned on lights and off we went again, decided it was the new globes so drove home - interesting with suspension lowered certainly handled well on the range road. It was on access height not the stops.

Any sugestions other than using normal globes and carrying spares ?

DD
P.S. edit : photo 2 posts down, had no manual transmission control either, worked fine in Drive but no sport mode or gear control.

[Glynhouse]

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j427/glynhouse/tn_IMG_1452_zps2cc0d0b3.jpg (http://s1085.photobucket.com/user/glynhouse/media/tn_IMG_1452_zps2cc0d0b3.jpg.html)

Not idea what happened to the photo ?

DD

[sheerluck]

Not sure either, have you read http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/25511-how-post-photos-forum.html

[Glynhouse]

Try this one never had a problem before but cant remember what I did !

Taken on the phone but good enough.

DD

Thanks Dave much easier way on that post direct !

[Glynhouse]

Just changed back to normal globes, all fine no troubles, put the LED's in and we're in trouble.
Reading through the link to the add looks like I might have bought the wrong globes without the required resistor. - I think.

Any sugestions ?

DD

[~Rich~]

Just changed back to normal globes, all fine no troubles, put the LED's in and we're in trouble.
Reading through the link to the add looks like I might have bought the wrong globes without the required resistor. - I think.

Any sugestions ?

DD

I prefer to stay with the CANBUS safe LED globes, they cost more but you should not have any issues using them.
My earlier links where for these globes.

As for the blinker bulbs yes I fitted seperate resistors for each side myself in line to get the dashboard indicator to flash at the correct speed.

[NavyDiver]

Update- Five years on my LED brake light globes failed. All my problems returned. All fixed now and an update to this old thread as some links show product no longer sold

Brake/ tail lights
1157LEdP21/2wphillipsLEd from Autobarn comes in a pack of 2. 12 year warranty $54.99
or BAY15D from Bright lights (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/redirect-to/'redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fbrightlightautoparts.com.au %2Fonline-shop%23%21%2F1PC-BAY15D-12V-27-SMD-CANBUS%2Fp%2F63848670)

BAY15S fit everything (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/redirect-to/'redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fbrightlightautoparts.com.au %2Fonline-shop%23%21%2FBAU15S-REPLACEMENT%2Fc%2F18553011%2Foffset%3D0%26sort%3Dp riceAsc) else but as per Rich's comment you need a resistor for the LED on the indicators.

A two pack Load resistors Part LR12/2 is avaible at Autobarn and other places is only needed for the blinkers. The Brake lights are the cause of 99% of the faults with my Disco.

Thanks again to Rich and others for 5 years of trouble free brake lights!

[PeterOZ]

Update- Five years on my LED brake light globes failed. All my problems returned. All fixed now and an update to this old thread as some links show product no longer sold

Brake/ tail lights
1157LEdP21/2wphillipsLEd from Autobarn comes in a pack of 2. 12 year warranty $54.99
or BAY15D from Bright lights (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/redirect-to/'redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fbrightlightautoparts.com.au %2Fonline-shop%23%21%2F1PC-BAY15D-12V-27-SMD-CANBUS%2Fp%2F63848670)

BAY15S fit everything (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/redirect-to/'redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fbrightlightautoparts.com.au %2Fonline-shop%23%21%2FBAU15S-REPLACEMENT%2Fc%2F18553011%2Foffset%3D0%26sort%3Dp riceAsc) else but as per Rich's comment you need a resistor for the LED on the indicators.

A two pack Load resistors Part LR12/2 is avaible at Autobarn and other places is only needed for the blinkers. The Brake lights are the cause of 99% of the faults with my Disco.

Thanks again to Rich and others for 5 years of trouble free brake lights!

tried autobarn, they said they have never stocked them. I will do a bit of a net search and see what I can locate.

[NavyDiver]

tried autobarn, they said they have never stocked them. I will do a bit of a net search and see what I can locate.
I assumed they would all be the same
They are in Doncaster Autobarn Phone (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=autobarn+doncaster+phone&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOPgE-LWT9c3LDfIMM8zK9HSz0620k_Oz8lJTS7JzM_Tz87LL89JTUlP jS9IzEvNKdbPSCyOL8jIz0u1ApMAdIN8YkAAAAA&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiiidCUpLTTAhWCKZQKHb53B3IQ6BMImwEwEQ): (03) 9840 1131 -Sorry.

[NavyDiver]

two pack Load resistors Part LR12/2 I mentioned work well in the blinkers in my Disco but do allow a tiny flicker on my two trailers. I am not at all bothered but added this as some might be

[NavyDiver]

My replacement 2009 Disco has incandescent globes! Hail damage to my 2005 saw my nice led globes leave with it. Looks like Phillips no longer make the globe part I had in my brake/tail lights [bighmmm]

Just ordered pack of EL24592 * 1236zREDB2 Vision LED Bayonet REd 12v P21/5w BAY15D PR for $54 from Autobarn for my new 2009 Disco. Already noted a few quirks in my replacement which I assume might be the globes or brake switch again.

Noted Amazon might have this or similar but I am not certain (https://www.amazon.com.au/Philips-1157-X-tremeVision-Exterior-light/dp/B00HWS7XGW) yet either are the right ones.

Makes my chuckle thinking about a gent I met at Jaycar recently who picked up a very cheap Disco with lots of problems sorted by a new brake switch and globes. It is a pain that Landrover does not help fix this known issue in my view. It is not hard except for the fact the parts keep changing and luckily improving


Noted also a american site selling a mostly LED full replacement option SMOKE 2005-2009 Land Rover Discovery 3 LR3 LED SMD Rear Brake Lamp Tail Lights | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SMOKE-2005-2009-Land-Rover-Discovery-3-LR3-LED-SMD-Rear-Brake-Lamp-Tail-Lights-/172612748499?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10)

I will post if this part works tomorrow when it arrives and is installed.

[PeterOZ]

mate how are those new autobarm LED globes working out? Did you need load resistors etc?

I still have not done anything to replace mine. Would like to replace parking globes, all indicators and tail / stop. number plate. $$$$$ puts me off though.

[NavyDiver]

All the LED in my stop/tail, reversing, Blinkers with resistors and several interior lights worked flawlessing in the 2005 (RIP [bigsad] bloody insurance companies)

Given the incandescent lights seemed to blow every 6 months or so, cause me loads of mysterious issues and fraustraing faults till noticed the blown globe, I think the cost of 10 years (warranty) on the LED options is a no brainer. I appreciate they cost a bit up front but still think they are cheaper when the real cost of the OEM supplied globes.
Left hand Blinker indicator on my new 2009 is flickering oddly and I assume I alread have a blown globe.

There is much cheaper version of the LED globes at several online stores. The first ones I put in lasted for several years. I could say precisely if I looked on the date of the first post in this thread. [thumbsupbig]

[PeterOZ]

I'm in the process of documenting what ones I need. fleabay seems to have a good range of philips globes and the philips load resistors which clip on to each of the terminal leads, fairly simple.

Now to track down the indicator globes - fleaby seller has them for $118 per pair with philips load resistors - yikes!! 3 packs needed for indicators and reversing.

then onto high beam and fog lights . . . any suggestions there?

The little door indicator globes may be a pain to get out assume you have to go from inside the door?

[NavyDiver]

mate how are those new autobarm LED globes working out? Did you need load resistors etc?

I still have not done anything to replace mine. Would like to replace parking globes, all indicators and tail / stop. number plate. $$$$$ puts me off though.

Only added the LED to Brake/tail lights. No resistor needed and working perfectly in the 2009 as they did in my 2005 D3.

I am going to update the rest including blinkers which do need the resistors.

[goofyr]

Only added the LED to Brake/tail lights. No resistor needed and working perfectly in the 2009 as they did in my 2005 D3.

I am going to update the rest including blinkers which do need the resistors.

Does the reverse need resistors? I need to change mine so thinking of using LEDs.

Cheers,
Randy

[TDV6]

Several years ago I ran into problems with LED replacement globes then SWMBO broke a tail light unit and I found it much cheaper to get two complete after market D4 LED units than one single genuine D3 unit. I added the required resistor to each unit and haven't had any trouble since. I think the total cost was around $450-500

Ryall

[Globetrotter]

I purchased the D4 rear light assembly for my D3 from "Powerful UK" and they work well.
Have a problem with posting picture to show what they look like

[NavyDiver]

Does the reverse need resistors? I need to change mine so thinking of using LEDs.

Cheers,
Randy

I had LED in my reverse lights in the 2005. Loved them. Much brighter for reversing at night and no resistors needed.