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SteveL
7th March 2012, 03:19 PM
Gordon at GreenOval got us a set of 18" rims to replace our 19"s. They arrived in due course and we have fitted some BFG All terrains (265/65R18) also as recommended.
All of that bit is good and Greenoval were great to deal with but what I have not been able to find in these forum pages is a note warning users considering doing the same thing, that the new rim tyre package does not fit into the spare cavity.
Well...it does actually... if you remove the heat shield (easy, and still plenty of space between the tyre and exhaust), remove the tow neck and "air down" the tyre you want to put in as the spare.
Air down is double speak for letting all of the air out of it so that it is flat and malleable enough to be able to be "persuaded" (forced) in past the towing channel piece with a light hammer... or even a heavy one! And it's a two man job as the new tyre needs to be guided in while somone else is cranking the tyre up.
So now we carry our 12 volt aircompressor with us as our spare is flat! I don't really mind though and sort of thought that this might be the case. Gordon wasn't sure about a D4 but thought it might be an issue.
So, now I can tell you it is with this tyre wheel combination at least.
You can just imagine what the road and weather will be like when I in some time in the future need to change a flat!
Ride is just as good as with the standard "car" tyres, car is def taller and the tyres are a bit noisier. Very happy though and love not having to think about tyre issues any more.

Disco4SE
7th March 2012, 03:29 PM
Hi SteveL, any chance of some photos??????

Cheers, Craig

scarry
7th March 2012, 05:13 PM
Good choice of tyres:)

Had mine fitted yesterday,as mine is 2.7 i went for 17's.Very slight increase in road noise,handles different,but no problem at all.

Had two sets of the BFG A/T on the D2,no flats at all,fantastic.I also looked at te rugged terrains,but they are not as strong as the A/T.

Oh & my spare fits where it belongs,full of air:angel:

Your speedo may be spot on now?Haven't checked mine yet,but should be similar to original,about 4k's less than actual.

mowog
7th March 2012, 06:29 PM
Your 265/65/18's wont fit because they are larger diameter than standard.

255/60/18's will retain OEM rolling diameter and should fit in the spare bay.

101RRS
7th March 2012, 06:35 PM
All of that bit is good and Greenoval were great to deal with but what I have not been able to find in these forum pages is a note warning users considering doing the same thing, that the new rim tyre package does not fit into the spare cavity.


Most threads/posts on this site that deal with oversize tyres normally do discuss the issue of fitting these tyres in the spare wheel well. Normally it to be stored flat is the solution and some others remove heat shields etc.

Garry

sniegy
7th March 2012, 08:14 PM
Your 265/65/18's wont fit because they are larger diameter than standard.

255/60/18's will retain OEM rolling diameter and should fit in the spare bay.

265/60/18 will also fit. ( A few more tyres are available in this size )

My 265/65/17 don't fit either:( But that's also my choice!

scarry
7th March 2012, 08:47 PM
But the 265/60/18 is not available in LT,where the 265/65/18 is.
BFG have the rugged terrain in 265/60/18,but is not LT rated,if it was i would have got a set,instead of the mucking about getting 17's.

mikel
7th March 2012, 09:01 PM
Hi

Slightly off subject, but can somebody confirm / deny that BFG AT 265/65/17 tyres will fit standard LR 17 alloy rims(D3) for the D4 TDV6 2.7 without problems .

I am picking my new D4 up on Friday and have been assured by the Bob Jane store that they will fit and replace the standard 255/60/18's without problem (having replaced several sets already?).

I'm now concerned re the standard spare storage issue.

Can't wait to get the D4 being ex D1(V8i), D2(TD5) and current D1 (Tdi 300) and hook up our Trakmaster van.

Cheers
Mike L

sniegy
7th March 2012, 09:46 PM
Mke,
I also run factory 17's on my D4, I run Mickey Thompson MTZ'S in 265/65/17, they all fit nicely, rub a little here & there (fixed with a Llams unit) but fit well into the wheel arches...
BUT.....
The spare needs to be deflated to fit into it well.

Cheers.

gghaggis
7th March 2012, 10:22 PM
There is a lot of baggage associated with purchasing "LT" or "PT" tyres that is not as relevant these days as it used to be.

In several instances, the load rating of PT tyres of a particular manufacturer in a particular size, is greater than that of another manufacturer's LT tyre. And the material used in the sidewall construction can now be a greater consideration than the number of plies used. The buyer needs to be more aware these days, rather than relying on just the LT or PT classification.

Cheers,

Gordon

scarry
9th March 2012, 09:05 PM
Can't work out how to delete post:confused:

discojools
9th March 2012, 09:30 PM
I run 245/70/17 BFG KM2 MT on my 2.7 D4.. No rubbing, no trouble with spare and a little extra clearance. Great tyre, just a little noisy at low speeds.
Although I only use them for bush trips I could live with them if I didn't have the original wranglers.

Graeme
10th March 2012, 06:19 AM
My 245/70-17 Yokos (same nominal OD as 265/60-18) rubbed the top of one of the rear wheel liners recently when doing some experimenting that ended-up with the vehicle on the bump-stops. It was possible to keep moving slowly but larger tyres could have been quite a challenge.

scarry
10th March 2012, 07:13 AM
Got my 245/70/17 BFG A/T's last week,slight more road noise,hardly noticable.Haven't been off rd yet,but they were excellent on the D2

I know this thread is about 18's ,but another thing about 17's,the stock rims are 7".Some rims that fit the D3/4,/possibly X5,are 8 or 7.5",which allow fitting of sizes that will not fit the 7" rims.

As said by gordon,you must check the load rating,not just wether they are LT or PS tyres.The Cooper zeons are PS yet have a high load rating.

I spoke to BFG themselves as i was thinking of the Rugged Terrains,instead of the AT's,but was concerned about the strenght of the tyre,particularly after looking at the tyre data on the BFG website.Their advice was the rugged were nowhere near as strong as the A/T,particularly in the sidewall,although they both have the same load rating in LT configuration.Rugged terrain is available in PS in some sizes.
Rugged terrain is definitely quietter than the A/T,but i wouldn't call the A/T noisy.

chuck
10th March 2012, 07:01 PM
Sniegy

From memory you run 265 x 70 x 17.

I just bought a set for my new ride - ATZ 4 Rib

Spare fits & is inflated!!!!

Don't have to get dirty to get it either!!!

Regards

Chuck

marco110
10th March 2012, 11:23 PM
Hi

If can help : Tire Size Calculator - tire & wheel plus sizing (http://www.1010tires.com/tiresizecalculator.asp)

sniegy
11th March 2012, 11:03 AM
Sniegy

From memory you run 265 x 70 x 17.

I just bought a set for my new ride - ATZ 4 Rib

Spare fits & is inflated!!!!

Don't have to get dirty to get it either!!!

Regards

Chuck
Hey Chuck,
Neither do I any more, I have a swing away carrier:p