View Full Version : I'm sure this is cause of 4 amigos...but what is it??
stevo68
14th March 2012, 02:20 PM
G'day all,
A few weeks ago I spent most of a day out like this..............
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/03/820.jpg
and this
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/03/821.jpg
Which caused the 4 amigo's. Long story short having finally cleaned Smokey I found this ( passenger rear door........I checked the other side and same "wire" but it was all in one...not split like this one)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/03/822.jpg
So what is it and what can be done ie can I fix or off to my LR mechanic. Thanks in advance folks,
Regards
Stevo
Yorkie
14th March 2012, 03:14 PM
that would be the abs wire i would think and definate cause of amigoes. :o
one for the mechanic i would suggest, unless you can rejoin them with gaffa tape! :p
bsperka
14th March 2012, 03:16 PM
These are the ABS sensor wires that have been damaged - hence amigoes. In the picture you can see the other ends still attached to the abs. You will need to put some heat shrink on each of the wires to cover the solder joints, then solder them to wires from the sensor to get continuity, then shrink the heat shrink for insulation and remove (real) fault lights!!
stevo68
14th March 2012, 04:55 PM
These are the ABS sensor wires that have been damaged - hence amigoes. In the picture you can see the other ends still attached to the abs. You will need to put some heat shrink on each of the wires to cover the solder joints, then solder them to wires from the sensor to get continuity, then shrink the heat shrink for insulation and remove (real) fault lights!! Thanks for that but I am pretty clueless when it comes to stuff like solder or what heat shrink even means :D. I'm guessing I will have to take Yorkies advice and see my mechanic. As it is just the wire any idea if that is exxy or not? Or maybe even the mechanic my do what has been suggested in this post? Thanks for the advice/ feedback folks :),
Regards
Stevo
Blknight.aus
14th March 2012, 05:29 PM
goto an auto eleccy rather than a mechanic... should take about 20 minutes to sort it once hes thrown the MK I's at it. oh and thats the wires to the ABS sensor, which is the bit that "reads" the tone ring in the brakes and translates it into a series of pulses so that the cars computer can work out a, the wheel speed and B the vehicle speed. (you may find that your speedo reading is a little flakey with it missing)
stevo68
14th March 2012, 06:03 PM
goto an auto eleccy rather than a mechanic... should take about 20 minutes to sort it once hes thrown the MK I's at it. oh and thats the wires to the ABS sensor, which is the bit that "reads" the tone ring in the brakes and translates it into a series of pulses so that the cars computer can work out a, the wheel speed and B the vehicle speed. (you may find that your speedo reading is a little flakey with it missing) Thanks for that ( and explaining what a MK1 was :)). So would you average auto eleccy have on hand an ABS Sensor for Smokey? Thanks,
Regards
Stevo
biggin
14th March 2012, 06:28 PM
Stevo,
I've had the exact same problem.
Get your auto sparkie to join the cables using a crimp type joiner (the wires do not take solder, even with Baker's flux), then seal with epoxy lined heatshrink.
This should take about ten minutes.
Blknight.aus
14th March 2012, 06:29 PM
nope but then neither would most mechanics.
an auto leccy should have on hand what was needed to correctly solder the wires together. MK I's is military slang for your eyes, as in; device observational MK I, eyeball
bsperka
14th March 2012, 07:28 PM
goto an auto eleccy rather than a mechanic... should take about 20 minutes to sort it once hes thrown the MK I's at it. oh and thats the wires to the ABS sensor, which is the bit that "reads" the tone ring in the brakes and translates it into a series of pulses so that the cars computer can work out a, the wheel speed and B the vehicle speed. (you may find that your speedo reading is a little flakey with it missing)
1
The abs hasn't got anything to do with the speedo in most cars; can't see relationship bwung there in lr either.The sensor is just a square wave creator to tell the abs computer what speed each wheel is doing, isn't it?
Blknight.aus
14th March 2012, 07:47 PM
have a look on the rear output housing of your D2, see if you can spot a speedo drive there for me :)
BigJon
15th March 2012, 11:36 AM
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The abs hasn't got anything to do with the speedo in most cars; ?
A D2 isn't most cars...
twr7cx
15th March 2012, 06:17 PM
oh and thats the wires to the ABS sensor, which is the bit that "reads" the tone ring in the brakes and translates it into a series of pulses so that the cars computer can work out a, the wheel speed and B the vehicle speed. (you may find that your speedo reading is a little flakey with it missing)
1
The abs hasn't got anything to do with the speedo in most cars; can't see relationship bwung there in lr either.The sensor is just a square wave creator to tell the abs computer what speed each wheel is doing, isn't it?
have a look on the rear output housing of
your D2, see if you can spot a speedo drive there for me :)
A D2 isn't most cars...
I have just lifted my D2a to 4". As a result of this both of my rear ABS sensors are disconnected as the lines are not long enough. I am currently driving around with the 3 amigos on the dash until I fit the Wabco extension lines that have just arrived from the USA.
Anyways, my point is that my speedometer on the dash is still working perfectly, with no ill effect from both rear ABS sensors being disconnected and therefore not providing a signal.
If the rear ABS sensors do have anything to do with the vehicles speedometer, it is a minor role, and there must be a main speedometer sensor elsewhere (or the front wheels signals are also used?).
Blknight.aus
15th March 2012, 09:07 PM
the speedo gets an average reading of all 4 wheels speed, it typically ignores all sensor inputs that are non valid (either open circuit or short circuit)
try this...
even though you ABS warning lights are on go onto a gravel road and peg it into the brakes with one of the front wheels on a good solid bit and the other wheel in the slipery stuff, the sensors that are still working will still get ABS function.
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