Front and Rear bars P38

[Gippslander]

Finally have a rear bar for the P38 spent four nights after work building the rear bar with the help of a mate. (Big help he has the welder and shed) :) This added to the front bar and winch and the old girls is ready for the bush.:cool: Still got to clean it up and paint but really happy.

[p38arover]

Looks good. How much for winch bars? (make several!) :D

What size tyres are they?

[rovercare]

Looks good, I'm going to make a similar front bumber, but flat across the front and cut the grill for the winch

[Gippslander]

Hello Ron the tire's are 265/75/16 equate to 33" i believe i am really happy with the rig and am entered in the upcoming Alpine Navigation run on the 20th of this month will see how she stacks up against the rest of the rigs
:)

[rovercare]

Rudi runs excellent events, well organized and catered, hope you've sharpened up on your gps and navigation skills, you WILL need them

[glenhendry]

Looks great. Good work. Did you use GenIII airsprings and sensor extenders to fit the 33s in? My 32s scrub in carparks sometimes. I am thinking of pushing my front diff forward a couple of mm's with a small spacing washer between the radius arms and the chassis.

[Gippslander]

My poor old beast was airless when i bought it it runs 2" over king springs with Bilstiens and still rubs when off road but i put up with it i am happy with the result and have fitted all lights etc today so now just strip down again and polish the rough bits before painting.:) Yes i still love the Rangy but it can be a sorry piece of steel and wires when it wants too.:mad: Love hate relationship fits the bill i guess.:angel:

[ytt105]

REAR BAR!!!!! REAR BAR!!!!

How much, when are you going into production?

I want one, I want one!!!!

[BusinessConnected]

Love that Rear Bar.... Sign me up :-)

[PaulP38a]

Very nice work Gippslander. Are you fitting extra stop, turn, reverse lights on the rear bar to avoid problems with the boys in blue? Fit a couple of red reflectors too, just to be sure.

Cheers, Paul.

[Gippslander]

I spent half the day fitting lights and wiring etc to the bar and will strip it all off Tuesday or so to finalise the polishing and painting. Hadn't thought about production but will discuss with my mate who helped to build it he may be interested.:) It turned out great even managed to use the side brackets from the original bar on this one so four bolts and it all comes off. I will post pictures when i have it finished.

[ytt105]

Gippslander

If your not going to go into production, which I hope you do, would you be able to take dimensions and photos and allow others to 'copy' your hard work, without the hard work!

Regards
Trevor

[Gippslander]

My mate is away for the holidays i will discuss with him regarding manufacture as i said earlier we were able to use all original mounting points. The whole thing comes off with four bolts but is supported the same as original on the sides with slide in mounts and clips. I would produce it with work light mounting and rear lights so it would be a straight install if we were to go ahead with it. Would like to know if more people are interested so i have some idea of numbers then i can work out prices etc.:)

[ytt105]

I'm in, dependant on price of course!

[benji]

I'm a definate too!
Only because I don't have the time to travel to Sydney with tools...:angel:

[Vern]

Rear bar looks great Frank, complements the front one. Have you suggested to Deb you make a set for the Disco:D

[Gippslander]

I just informed the boss she was not impressed thinks the Rangy is an old dunger to use her words and the D3 is a cut above but i am getting it as my next offroader in 3 years she will get something else she tells me, already looking at bars and racks to fit HAHAHA

[Vern]

Seen the bar in person today, looks really good, except i think it needs some sort of surround around the tail lights.:p:p:p

[Gippslander]

Cheeky bar-steward wouldn't have noticed unless i told you better come fix the lights and fan and have a beer cheers mate.:angel: Picture to come tomorrow of the finished product.

Frank

[Gippslander]

As promised here is the painted version still need to add a work light and latch for jerry can. Will add a fold down table on the inside to meet up with the tail gate when it is open giving an "L" shaped kitchen area.:D So far i have added the side steps (home made) the winch bar purchased from Hi-line Traralgon and the rear bar also home made. Really happy with the outcome.

[DT-P38]

That last shot looks really cool! Great looking set up. Although I am sure its really functional, I am not sure I like the style of your front bar too much. Did it come from WA via e-bay? If so, is it SRS compliant?

Anyway, I remember seeing one really cool bar a fella did up in QLD a while ago and it was the sexiest P38 front bar I have seen (including the modified ARB disco2 ones that look pretty nice). Can't find photo's to share though. It was really high tech looking stuff.

Suggest you add some led lights on flexi arms for above the drop down work bench/kitchen and a reverse/work light for spreading light on the general camping area too.

Wondering, are your side steps rock sliders too? Do they support the weight of the vehicle with out bending flexing?

[Gippslander]

Thanks for the comments the front bar was purchased locally where it was fabricated i do not know, i researched the compliance ADR 69and found it came into effect after the car was built and registered in fact it did not come into effect until 1998 for four wheel drives and as such i am legal. I checked with Victoria Roads engineers regarding this. As for the suggestions regarding lights etc i am still in the research mode as the style and power requirements etc.
The side steps are sliders also and support the vehicle when required.
Thanks again for the interest.
Frank

[DT-P38]

That pre-98 rule is a bonus for us on earlier gems machines! Your doing a good job on all that... wondering what you made the sliders from? Did you do them completely DIY? Any chance of sharing some close up photo's?

[ytt105]

I'm impressed!

But naturally have few comments as to how it would suit me better.

I'd put the swing away on the other side, ie passenger, and have it only half width. I don't need the jerry holder.

The reason this would suit me better is because I tow a camper and have my drinks fridge mounted on the passenger side of the boot.

The way it is now you'd have to climb over the draw bar to open the swing away and then climb back to open the fridge.

I don't want to put the wife to that much work!!!

[Gippslander]

The side step/sliders are from two pieces 50mm X 4mm square tube with a spacer between each and welded to form a ladder laying down. Two pieces of 5mm flat bar are used to mount to the frame using the existing holes forward and rear of the chassis rail. A thing of note is that i followed chassis shape and it is narrower at the rear than at the front this means it stays inline with the wheels. Some may prefer to make rear parallel with the doors and therefore require an inch longer bracket at the rear and a protrusion at the rear wheel. The actual design i adapted from a sight in the US called Rock Rover RockRover - P38 Range Rover Winch Bumpers and Sliders (http://rockrover.com/) They make lots of things for the P38A i hope this helps if you need more i will try to supply more detail but it was what i used to do it. As for the rear bar setup i wanted a full swing out from the left as i plan on installing a roof rack and a "L" shaped canvas awning which i can sleep under and cook under this required a left hand to right swing out leaving all the left side free.
Frank

[DT-P38]

Hey dude I love that rock rover stuff too! Thought they looked similar, good work!

If you are truly up for a wrap around awning "foxwing" style, then go to tigerz11.com.au quick smart as they have them going around half normal price right now ($350 approx.). Their stuff i have seen is all pretty good kit too so check out the rest while your on their site. Probably one of the better "made in China" local sellers with above China average quality.

Within reason, anybody wanting me to pick up and store purchases for them I am happy to do. They are not far from me down here.

[Vern]

Hey Frank, my folks have an account with Oztent, i can get YOU a deal on a foxwing, otherwise a mob in QLD, Supa Peg do a canvas one, i have one of theirs sitting in my shed if you want to try it, it swings from the drivers side though.
Damien
Oh will be a couple of weeks until i get to your place, appreantice broke his wrist playing footy(so much further behind now), no more footy for him. Have a second one starting very soon.

[Gippslander]

After discussions with my friend regarding building rear bars for sale we believe we do not want to produce the bars :) due to other work commitments and time restrictions but i will in the near future give dimensions and methods for all interested to fabricate their own rear bar.:angel:
The complete unit was pre-cut and bent by a firm in Morwell to my dimensions and requirements it was then simply a case of assemble and weld the pieces like a piece of IKEA furniture.:D

Gippslander

[Gippslander]

Sorry for the delay had to go back to work and didn't get measurements down so here is a quick run down of how i went about it most people should be able to follow. After removing rear bar i had a section of flat plate slightly wider than the car bent as follows. The top flat piece is 6" or 150mm wide then the flat upright was also 6" or 150mm and then the bottom was bent 2" or 50mm to form a "U" with one long side and one short. I then had the same guy bend the side pieces 2" or 50mm flat for top the rear end was then measured at 6" and the front at 8" so it is wider at the front than the back a fold of 2"on the bottom so we end up with a trapezoidal shape which is the same width as the rear piece. The sides are to be bent as mirror images to get left and right. He was able to laser cut the narrow end to give it a round shape on the top and bottom flanges, at the end piece which attaches to the rear flat piece. A small piece of flat 6" long and a quarter circle was then bent to the same arc for both sides which were welded into the missing sections at assembly.
To fit to rear of car the existing mounts were removed and two mounts were constructed from pieces of 75mm or 3" wide 5mm plate 150mm long, two for each side with a section of box welded between to make a rigid piece inside the chassis rail. holes were drilled to fit original bolts. Before it was drilled the rear flat bar was lifted up against the body and the two mounts slid out to meet the bar measured and drilled to suit.
The two side pieces were then positioned onto the rear piece once it was in position and marked to be cut they are slightly wider at the front of the car than the back to follow the body shape. once measured and cut they were welded to the rear bar and final fit completed.
I will try to make a proper drawing and include measurements, when i get back home from work which will be in two to three weeks sorry it is a bit rough but doing from memory.:angel:

[Gippslander]

Sorry for those who are waiting for exact measurements i have been diverted to Malaysia on the way home so will be a couple of days extra should be home on the 9th/10th of next month will do my best to get accurate measurements for those interested in a rear bar.

Gippslander:angel:

[Gippslander]

I am not sure if anyone wants quantified measurements of rear bar i have been delayed getting home left Congo got to Malaysia and now have to go to India will be three weeks before i get home let alone accurately measure the damn thing if someone wants accurate measurements please let me know other wise what has been supplied will be it.:(

[ytt105]

I'd love detail measurements, but I'm in no hurry.

I'll be off to the Boulia Camel races next month, so nothing but van prep will happen between now and then.

Thanks

[andrew53]

What size tyres have you got to fit on your p38

[Gippslander]

What size tyres have you got to fit on your p38


I am running 265/65/16 Khumo mud tyres.:)

[Keithy P38]

Don't you mean 265/75 gippslander?

[Gippslander]

Don't you mean 265/75 gippslander?


Yes Keithy your right i was reading the question late at night been busy working and really not thinking.

All the best 265/75/16:)